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Posted: 2/23/2016 8:00:49 AM EST
A judge ordered Monday that a foul-mouthed Bronx man must face federal charges for telling the IRS: “Go f–k yourself.”

Enrique Santiago went on the typo- and profanity-laced rant in a letter to the IRS after the agency mistakenly sent a notice last May that was addressed to his same-named nephew at his West Farms residence, according to papers filed in Manhattan federal court.

The IRS was trying to collect $3,032.57 in unpaid taxes from Santiago’s nephew — named Enrique A. Santiago — who had moved out a month earlier after a “physical altercation” with his uncle.

The uncle returned the letter to sender, but not before adding a flurry of his own X-rated messages under the guise of his nephew.

“I do not live at this address anymore so go f–k yourself,” Santiago allegedly scrawled on the first page of the IRS notice

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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:03:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 8:03:55 AM EST by Zephri]
Something tells me the "Federal charges" have to do not with what he wrote but with the "white powder" he put in the envelope.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:04:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 8:05:07 AM EST by HKH]
Yeah, he stuffed a white powdery substance in the envelope.


Thread title is click bait bullcrap
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:04:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/23/2016 8:06:20 AM EST by ReallyLongAction]
This probably had a lot more to do with the charges that the F-bomb did:

Santiago also allegedly stuffed the letter with a white “powder,” which placed a Suffolk County IRS office under lockdown for several hours last June before cops realized it was a substance used in soap.

Feds busted Santiago on charges of false information and hoaxes and mailing a threatening communication after he allegedly admitted to the sick joke.
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Don't know why you chose to leave that little tid-bit of info out of the thread title , but anyhow.........


edit - Beaten like a Mexican prostitute.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:07:08 AM EST
dude wasn't exactly the brightest crayon in the light bulb drawer
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:07:25 AM EST
At first I was like, "Go Fuck Yourself" + IRS...What's wrong with that?

Then I saw the little thing about white powder....

Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:12:56 AM EST
Well you certainly tried to get everyone up in a tizzy with the IRS OP. Better luck next time
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:13:08 AM EST
Really Go fuck Yourself is Good Morning in the Bronx
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:16:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By vand6167:
Well you certainly tried to get everyone up in a tizzy with the IRS OP. Better luck next time
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Perfect tax season thread !!!!!!



Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:17:47 AM EST
Also impersonating someone else with a government agency can't be all that legal either.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:18:37 AM EST
Regardless of the powder, the IRS can go fuck themselves...
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:20:58 AM EST
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 8:30:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cobra-ak:
Really Go fuck Yourself is Good Morning in the Bronx
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and click bait titles are "ignore me"
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 9:24:38 AM EST
I suspect there's a non-zero possibility that the Bronx guy did not put any white powder anywhere. In other words, piss off the party hacks and they make sure you go down.
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.
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You are just fine with not prosecuting bomb threats as well, I presume?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:22:26 AM EST
Does a rant that ends in an indictment rate a 10/10 on GD?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:25:25 AM EST
Reminds me i need to go buy my tax software FTIRS!!!!
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:26:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.
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This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:27:07 AM EST
OP sucks.

"There's no enough retardation and poutrage in GD, so let's manufacture some. Herp!"
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:28:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:34:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fst96se:


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.
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Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.


Serious question. When was the last time a real bomb was placed and the bomber told everyone he did it? Has this ever happened besides in movies?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:37:15 AM EST
I vaguely remember some case law that allows you to express your dislike for taxing authorities, even on the memo of your check to them, as long as it's not a threat.

"Go fuck yourself" is not a threat.

So I assume there is more to this story.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:42:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fst96se:


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.
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Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.


He didn't send a FUCKING BOMB THREAT.

EDIT because fucking pissed with stupid ass comments.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:45:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By aeroworksxp:


Serious question. When was the last time a real bomb was placed and the bomber told everyone he did it? Has this ever happened besides in movies?
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Originally Posted By aeroworksxp:
Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.


Serious question. When was the last time a real bomb was placed and the bomber told everyone he did it? Has this ever happened besides in movies?


I know of none. Doesn't mean is hasn't happened, but I know of none.

Serious question. When was the last time a letter was mailed to government facility in the US that contained actual dangerous powdery substances, like anthrax, ricin, etc?

Lots and lots of hoaxers send send powdery substances in the mail to government building when they feel somehow slighted by the government. Are you okay with that? Do you support that? Should there be any consequences to that? Would you encourage it? Do you believe it to be "free speech"?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:47:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:


He didn't send a FUCKING BOMB THREAT.

EDIT because fucking pissed with stupid ass comments.
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.


He didn't send a FUCKING BOMB THREAT.

EDIT because fucking pissed with stupid ass comments.


Okay, got it...

Bomb threat... NOT okay.
Anthrax hoax letter... Okay.

Am I following?

Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:48:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.
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Oh please - we all know what white flour looks like. We all know what happens when an agency receives a letter that looks like it has Anthrax in it.

Stop playing stupid. The guy knew what he was doing.

If he would have sent glitter, no harm. But "white powder" - please you are being purposely ignorant.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:52:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:


He didn't send a FUCKING BOMB THREAT.

EDIT because fucking pissed with stupid ass comments.
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.


He didn't send a FUCKING BOMB THREAT.

EDIT because fucking pissed with stupid ass comments.


He may not have sent a bomb threat, but I guaran-GodDamn-tee he knew that an envelope containing a powdery substance would send the IRS office into full shutdown mode after the anthrax letters mailed around the Nation immediately after 9/11. The substance may not have been illegal, but his actions and intentions with it sure as shit were. Much like my Glock is 19 is legal, but waving it around in a crowded room with the intention of scaring people sure as shit isn't legal.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:35:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:

He may not have sent a bomb threat, but I guaran-GodDamn-tee he knew that an envelope containing a powdery substance would send the IRS office into full shutdown mode after the anthrax letters mailed around the Nation immediately after 9/11. The substance may not have been illegal, but his actions and intentions with it sure as shit were. Much like my Glock is 19 is legal, but waving it around in a crowded room with the intention of scaring people sure as shit isn't legal.
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Thought crime. Yes lets have many more of those.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:38:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fst96se:


Okay, got it...

Bomb threat... NOT okay.
Anthrax hoax letter... Okay.

Am I following?

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Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By fst96se:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.


You are also good with bomb threats? No need to prosecute, right? After all, it's just a phone call.


He didn't send a FUCKING BOMB THREAT.

EDIT because fucking pissed with stupid ass comments.


Okay, got it...

Bomb threat... NOT okay.
Anthrax hoax letter... Okay.

Am I following?



It wasn't anthrax. You do know that all US mail to DC offices is still scanned for Anthrax, explosives, and radiation prior to delivery don't you? It was already deemed safe.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:39:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HKH:
Yeah, he stuffed a white powdery substance in the envelope.


Thread title is click bait bullcrap
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Dumbsh*t.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:41:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By cobra-ak:
A judge ordered Monday that a foul-mouthed Bronx man must face federal charges for telling the IRS: “Go f–k yourself.”

Enrique Santiago went on the typo- and profanity-laced rant in a letter to the IRS after the agency mistakenly sent a notice last May that was addressed to his same-named nephew at his West Farms residence, according to papers filed in Manhattan federal court.

The IRS was trying to collect $3,032.57 in unpaid taxes from Santiago’s nephew — named Enrique A. Santiago — who had moved out a month earlier after a “physical altercation” with his uncle.

The uncle returned the letter to sender, but not before adding a flurry of his own X-rated messages under the guise of his nephew.

“I do not live at this address anymore so go f–k yourself,” Santiago allegedly scrawled on the first page of the IRS notice

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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:44:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Reminds me i need to go buy my tax software FTIRS!!!!
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Tax Act online is free. No software to buy
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
I was fined by the irs for writing " signed under protest" on a tax return

Although maybe someone here found a case saying that was illegal on their part
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
I vaguely remember some case law that allows you to express your dislike for taxing authorities, even on the memo of your check to them, as long as it's not a threat.

"Go fuck yourself" is not a threat.

So I assume there is more to this story.
I was fined by the irs for writing " signed under protest" on a tax return

Although maybe someone here found a case saying that was illegal on their part

What is your position on gold fringed flags?

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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:59:59 AM EST
He should have filled the letter with stripper glitter.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 12:06:38 PM EST
You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask of that old Lone Ranger and you don't mess around with the IRS.

Not very catchy, but until we can get them disbanded it's the God's own truth. Cheat all you want, but when they come for you wanting money, you smile, write them a check and say "Thank you sir, can I have some more?".
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 12:07:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:


Thought crime. Yes lets have many more of those.
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:

He may not have sent a bomb threat, but I guaran-GodDamn-tee he knew that an envelope containing a powdery substance would send the IRS office into full shutdown mode after the anthrax letters mailed around the Nation immediately after 9/11. The substance may not have been illegal, but his actions and intentions with it sure as shit were. Much like my Glock is 19 is legal, but waving it around in a crowded room with the intention of scaring people sure as shit isn't legal.


Thought crime. Yes lets have many more of those.


You're a special kind of kid, aren't you? You see the word you highlighted, "actions"? That took it out of the realm of thought crime and made it into an illegal act. If he'd simply thought about sending them flour, or maybe even voiced the idea, I'd side with you that it was simply a thought crime. But, no, he took it several steps further and mailed a Federal agency a letter containing a substance he knew would cause them to react out of caution. That's a crime, plain and simple.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 12:12:54 PM EST
Stupid games, don't invite the man into your life, etc.
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
You think he meant for them to bake a cupcake with it?

Don't be ridiculous, he intended for them to think it was some kind of poison
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Didn't know a bit of flour is a felony.

I feel safer already.


This. If he didn't send anything illegal. I don't think flour is illegal.
You think he meant for them to bake a cupcake with it?

Don't be ridiculous, he intended for them to think it was some kind of poison


It's the IRS, no fucks given.
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:


You're a special kind of kid, aren't you? You see the word you highlighted, "actions"? That took it out of the realm of thought crime and made it into an illegal act. If he'd simply thought about sending them flour, or maybe even voiced the idea, I'd side with you that it was simply a thought crime. But, no, he took it several steps further and mailed a Federal agency a letter containing a substance he knew would cause them to react out of caution. That's a crime, plain and simple.
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:
Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:

He may not have sent a bomb threat, but I guaran-GodDamn-tee he knew that an envelope containing a powdery substance would send the IRS office into full shutdown mode after the anthrax letters mailed around the Nation immediately after 9/11. The substance may not have been illegal, but his actions and intentions with it sure as shit were. Much like my Glock is 19 is legal, but waving it around in a crowded room with the intention of scaring people sure as shit isn't legal.


Thought crime. Yes lets have many more of those.


You're a special kind of kid, aren't you? You see the word you highlighted, "actions"? That took it out of the realm of thought crime and made it into an illegal act. If he'd simply thought about sending them flour, or maybe even voiced the idea, I'd side with you that it was simply a thought crime. But, no, he took it several steps further and mailed a Federal agency a letter containing a substance he knew would cause them to react out of caution. That's a crime, plain and simple.


Still no fucks.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 12:16:31 PM EST
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No, that's New Jersey. In NY it's illegal to wish anyone a good morning because of feels.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 12:18:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zephri:
Something tells me the "Federal charges" have to do not with what he wrote but with the "white powder" he put in the envelope.
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I like how they mention that on the bottom 3rd of the story. Its not like there's a dearth of horror stores regarding the IRS to where they'd have to make an effort to sully its good name or anything, but they focus on this guy.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 12:21:42 PM EST
Just messing with the IRS is stupid . They have unlimited time and resources to beat you with. Kinda like the Terminator , never stops . Just keeps coming.



gd
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
The few times I've dealt with them for clients they were actually helpful and professional, as much as I hate to admit it.
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Just messing with the IRS is stupid . They have unlimited time and resources to beat you with. Kinda like the Terminator , never stops . Just keeps coming.



gd
The few times I've dealt with them for clients they were actually helpful and professional, as much as I hate to admit it.



Well , I must have pissed them off really bad . Seized everything I had . Including bank accounts . And as it turned out without good cause. But a lot of damage had been done and they never said they over stepped their authority.


gd
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Well , I must have pissed them off really bad . Seized everything I had . Including bank accounts . And as it turned out without good cause. But a lot of damage had been done and they never said they over stepped their authority.


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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By GANDYDANCER:
Just messing with the IRS is stupid . They have unlimited time and resources to beat you with. Kinda like the Terminator , never stops . Just keeps coming.



gd
The few times I've dealt with them for clients they were actually helpful and professional, as much as I hate to admit it.



Well , I must have pissed them off really bad . Seized everything I had . Including bank accounts . And as it turned out without good cause. But a lot of damage had been done and they never said they over stepped their authority.


gd


Backstory?
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
The few times I've dealt with them for clients they were actually helpful and professional, as much as I hate to admit it.
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Just messing with the IRS is stupid . They have unlimited time and resources to beat you with. Kinda like the Terminator , never stops . Just keeps coming.



gd
The few times I've dealt with them for clients they were actually helpful and professional, as much as I hate to admit it.
Back in the late 80's, I had spent all weekend doing my taxes and finally got them sealed up in a nice fat letter to the IRS. I set it on the table next to the front door to be mailed the next day. Sometime during the night our cat decided to hock up a nice fat juicy hairball on the envelope.

I scraped off the big pieces and mailed it anyway (it was awful looking). My check was cashed, and I never heard anything at all about it. I wouldn't dare do something like that today.
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