User Panel
Posted: 11/30/2010 7:24:27 PM EDT
Following intervention from the US Congress, legislation was passed in 2009 that required the Army to conduct a program to select a new camouflage for use in Afghanistan, and to replace UCP as the standard Army camouflage pattern. This led to the selection of MultiCam as the camouflage of choice for use in Afghanistan, and the decision to conduct an extensive research and development effort to come up with a replacement for UCP.
So, in July 2010 the US Army’s Program Executive Office Soldier (PEO-Soldier) issued a Request For Information (RFI) asking industry to submit camouflage patterns that the Army could consider for its next-generation “Family of Camouflage” – thereby effectively nailing the coffin lid shut on the “Universal Camouflage Pattern”. The RFI specifically stipulated that patterns should have a common design geometry with adaptations colored for “woodland”, “desert” and “transitional” environments for clothing – with a fourth multi-terrain pattern adapted for use on web gear, rucksacks, armoured vests and other personal equipment. The Multi-Environment Camouflage System™ (MECS™) we have proposed is an improved and technologically-advanced variation of the types of camouflaged over-garments previously mentioned and is based on a two-part system of a Reversible Camouflage Over-Garment™ (RECOG™) and a basic Universal Duty Uniform™ (UDU™). Our proposed Reversible Camouflage Over-Garment™ (RECOG™) would be made from a lightweight, highly-breathable material that would enable it to meet the key requirements of concealment and comfort, and would feature reversible combinations of the different uniform colorations of the PenCott Multi-Environment Camouflage family of patterns. Our proposed Universal Duty Uniform™ (UDU) is intended to be the standard uniform used in stand-alone mode for garrison, utility and general fatigue and admin duties, and as the under-garment (in conjunction with the RECOG™) for field and combat operations. The UDU™ would be available in two weights (“light” for summer / hot climates and “heavy” for winter / cold climates use) and in two colors (Olive Green for verdant environments and Coyote Brown for arid/semi-arid environments). However, in addition to the three colorways for uniforms, the US Army also asked for a fourth version that could be used for web gear and personal equipment, and which could work as a “universal” pattern in conjunction with any of the uniform patterns. In this way, the Army hopes to be able to minimise disruption and cost in the supply chain by only needing to issue one set of web gear / equipment. The thinking from the US Army is that the new pattern for equipment is designed to work in conjunction with the different uniform camouflage patterns – whilst the uniform patterns provide the effective terrain-matching camouflage. To meet this requirement challenges, we developed a new colorway called PenCott-TEC™ (“Tactical Equipment Camouflage”). link |
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I like it. Service wide adoption would be best for financial reasons. This seperate camo for every branch thing is nuts. Rather see a Crye Combat style pants and top though. FR is a must. Better material for IR reduction would be nice as well. |
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Kinda looks like fleck. this, who knew a WW2 pattern would last this long. |
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looks cool.
But how does it work/look against non white backgrounds? and why is the top darker than the pants? |
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I will take just about anything over the ABU tiger stripe crap we wear now. If the Army adopts something different, like this, I hope the Air Force piggy backs on the contract like we did/do with the BDU and small arms.
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How long is this drama going to continue? The Army has already fielded Multicam to part of its force. Why not continue and issue it Army wide? If they want two different patterns for vegetated and desert environments, why not adopt MARPAT and issue a transitional MARPAT color for gear? |
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Kinda looks like fleck. this, who knew a WW2 pattern would last this long. The Danes, who adopted their modern version of it in 1984. |
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why is the top darker than the pants? They just mixed 'n matched for the photo shoot. Prolly to better show the differences. Seems like two colorways would be enough. I don't get the need for the "transitional" one between Woodland and Desert. |
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Kinda looks like fleck. this, who knew a WW2 pattern would last this long. The Danes, who adopted their modern version of it in 1984. Still Have yet to issue modern dress foot gear that isn't vulnerable to angered, horny termites, however... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Brit camo removes people's faces? Nazgul. to Mordor they will take you |
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Not that I have any real need for this stuff, but I've always wanted an SAS Windproof Smock. If someone made one in these colours (woodland mainly) I might just be tempted to get it.
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I'm sure the USAF will change to something brightly-colored and reflective so that nobody will have to remember to wear reflective belts anymore.
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. |
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Brit camo removes people's faces? Fuck that's cool And the silver shield thingy through the foot limits mobility. |
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Quoted: I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. NWU and SU killed off lots and lots of uniforms from the seabag. No more Tropical Whites, Winter Blues, Working Khakis, Tropical Utilities, Working Blues, Summer Whites etc... |
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Looks like CADPAT and woodland/desert Flecktarn had a kid.
Good stuff. |
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Quoted: I'm sure the USAF will change to something brightly-colored and reflective so that nobody will have to remember to wear reflective belts anymore. No, well get them sewn in already! |
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. NWU and SU killed off lots and lots of uniforms from the seabag. No more Tropical Whites, Winter Blues, Working Khakis, Tropical Utilities, Working Blues, Summer Whites etc... Tropical Whites and Tropical Utilities weren't bad uniforms. I don't mind a bunch of uniform authorized for the Os, as its basically at no cost to the taxpayer. We're still searching for a decent shipboard uniform (I really wouldn't want to work topside in the goretex parka) and I don't understand how we can run nuclear reactors but not field a PT uniform. Its shorts and tee-shirt, for fucks sake. |
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. |
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. I bet you would sailor |
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looks cool. But how does it work/look against non white backgrounds? and why is the top darker than the pants? So you can see it - otherwise it would just a completely white image. |
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. I bet you would sailor Not satisified with just stealing uniforms from the Marine Corps, the Army is down to stealing comedy material. |
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Quoted: If that came in a blaze orange reflective material we would adopt it in a heartbeat! Quoted: I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg |
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. I bet you would sailor Not satisified with just stealing uniforms from the Marine Corps, the Army is down to stealing comedy material. At least we only rip the patterns, and don't rip them off them while they are wearing them. Tip your waitress. |
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Brit camo removes people's faces? Fuck that's cool No, those are Jawas with their eyes closed... |
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Quoted:The Army has already fielded Multicam to part of its force. Why not continue and issue it Army wide?
I honestly think ACU works better at night than Multicam. Multicam has its fanboys though. |
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. I bet you would sailor Not satisified with just stealing uniforms from the Marine Corps, the Army is down to stealing comedy material. At least we only rip the patterns, and don't rip them off them while they are wearing them. Tip your waitress. Joke all you want...I'm just concerned it only took you nine minutes to read the thread and google "gimp suit." One, that's in your search history forever. Two, it pretty much begs the question if that was in your stock photos file. You can tell us, Sylvan, GD is a nuturing and caring environment. |
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It's ugly as hell, but awesome at the same time. I'd like to see pics of it out and about. Looks like it would work well! I hope they get something that works as opposed to the shit they have now.
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. I bet you would sailor Not satisified with just stealing uniforms from the Marine Corps, the Army is down to stealing comedy material. At least we only rip the patterns, and don't rip them off them while they are wearing them. Tip your waitress. Joke all you want...I'm just concerned it only took you nine minutes to read the thread and google "gimp suit." One, that's in your search history forever. Two, it pretty much begs the question if that was in your stock photos file. You can tell us, Sylvan, GD is a nuturing and caring environment. It didn't even take me that long. You posted Navy, and gimp just came to mind. Kismet, I guess? Good night, folks, you've been great. GD is the love child of /b/ and lightfighter. |
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Holy Crap! I didn't know you guys used to be authorized shorts.
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I think the Navy should get it in addition to our other uniforms...I think our count is under 30 now. CNO announced this last week. Got ya covered.http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/CrpyLrkr/3106.jpg Still rather wear that in public over an Army uniform. I bet you would sailor Not satisified with just stealing uniforms from the Marine Corps, the Army is down to stealing comedy material. At least we only rip the patterns, and don't rip them off them while they are wearing them. Tip your waitress. Joke all you want...I'm just concerned it only took you nine minutes to read the thread and google "gimp suit." One, that's in your search history forever. Two, it pretty much begs the question if that was in your stock photos file. You can tell us, Sylvan, GD is a nuturing and caring environment. It didn't even take me that long. You posted Navy, and gimp just came to mind. Kismet, I guess? Good night, folks, you've been great. GD is the love child of /b/ and lightfighter. Well played. I'm just wondering if I can use that gimp suit photo as my official photo. Or, better yet, the official photo of someone I don't like. He's obviously within body fat standards. |
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Holy Crap! I didn't know you guys used to be authorized shorts. That doesn't include any of the "combat" uniforms...desert and woodland cam, issued at one point concurrently with OG BDUs, which is what we should have kept. Also, two or three different flight suits, plus party flight suits. Period uniforms for the USS Constitution. Cold weather gear. This also doesn't include Service Dress Blues, Service Dress Whites, Aviation Greens (on again, off again, depending on the CNO), Khakis, Mess Dress, and Working Whites (still authorized for Officers and Chiefs.) Also, when supporting Army units because they are broke-dick, marginally competent and need to grab bodies, we are authorized to wear ACU, though not (Thankfully) the beret. ETA: Forgot to add coats. Leather jackets, green sub jackets (don't know if they're still around), pea coats, bridge coats, and windbreakers. |
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Quoted: Holy Crap! I didn't know you guys used to be authorized shorts. I think it was authorized in Diego Garcia only. I never saw anyone wear that shit at ASU Bahrain (now NSA Bahrain). Notice the picture didn't show the wearing of a pith helmet? Like I said, the optional components were various and sundry... Another tidbit of trivia: Females can wear a black beret in the Blue (the black uniforms) and White uniforms. The beret looks fashionable, not warrior-like. |
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We should just stop fighting optional wars. Then, these discussions would be moot. Then, perhaps, we could do what the constitution authorizes and secure our own borders.
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Holy Crap! I didn't know you guys used to be authorized shorts. I think it was authorized in Diego Garcia only. I never saw anyone wear that shit at ASU Bahrain (now NSA Bahrain). Notice the picture didn't show the wearing of a pith helmet? Like I said, the optional components were various and sundry... Another tidbit of trivia: Females can wear a black beret in the Blue (the black uniforms) and White uniforms. The beret looks fashionable, not warrior-like. Believe its authorized for Os and Chiefs in khaki, as well. I was the GMT points master on the advancement exam, at one point. All that knowledge, flushed away. |
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Wow, I am never going to bitch about having to buy a mess dress again.
I know we had shorts authorized with the pith helmet back when we still wore khaki uniforms. I think they were probably just for tropical places as well. That was long before my time too. I kind of remember seeing a female sailor with the beret before. It reminded me of the type worn by girl scouts. |
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Quoted: I don't understand how we can run nuclear reactors but not field a PT uniform. We have a PT uniform. It's just that we have one that sucks. Dirtside was G2G with brown t-shirt and blue shorts for PT, but now we have that glowing gold abomination forced onto us. I like the new black & tans. Easy to wear and not get messed up. |
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Wow, I am never going to bitch about having to buy a mess dress again. I know we had shorts authorized with the pith helmet back when we still wore khaki uniforms. I think they were probably just for tropical places as well. That was long before my time too. I kind of remember seeing a female sailor with the beret before. It reminded me of the type worn by girl scouts. Depends on the woman frankly. On some, its flattering, on others, not so much. It was like the 1950s United Flight Attendent hat that the younger F/As rocked for awhile about 10 years ago. If you were young and cute, it looked awesome. If you were old, you looked like Nurse Ratchett. |
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Quoted: I was the GMT points master on the advancement exam, at one point. All that knowledge, flushed away. The GMT questions I saw on the ET2 exam were real hard ones like: "How many stars does a Vice Admiral wear?" "What is the magazine capacity of the M1911A1 .45 caliber pistol?" (Asked in 1998) I never saw one IFF question. That's too bad since I held the 1572 NEC (AIMS Mk XII IFF Maintainer). I did see questions on how to operate the AN/USH-26 and something to the effect of "What mode should you operate Link 11 in in EMCON Alpha?" Even OSs didn't know that one. |
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