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Posted: 4/23/2007 3:06:15 AM EST
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1658085.ece

Where is a gang of skinhead when you need.


MI5 is adopting tactics used by the police to keep tabs on paedophiles and other sex offenders to monitor the activities of known or suspected Islamic extremists, The Times has learnt.

The threat from radicalised young Muslims is growing at such a rate that MI5 has realised that it needs the help of police officers on the streets to help it keep a check on extremists in their areas.

The police keep track of known paedophiles by collating sightings of them and noting whom they meet and which areas they frequent — a tactic that MI5 sees as ideal for keeping track of the movements of Islamic extremists.

Thousands of police officers on the beat in areas with large Pakistani communities — such as Birmingham, Leeds and London — will be expected to keep a lookout for young Muslims known to have become radicals.

The information gathered from day-to-day observations will be used to compile a comprehensive database of lower-level extremism. This register will help both MI5 and the police.

However, there are thousands of other radicalised young Muslims from countries such as Pakistan, North Africa and Somalia about whom there is no intelligence linking them to terrorist groups.

Because of limited resources, they are not regarded as a priority for MI5 when there are so many others who are known to be affiliated to terrorist networks in Britain and, in many cases, actually to be plotting attacks. The fear is that young Muslims who are being radicalised may be persuaded to support the cause of the terrorists.

MI5 has built up an extensive archive of extremist activities, according to security sources. But its surveillance officers have time to focus only on those posing a terrorist threat.

Security sources say that monitoring extremists is only part of the drive to deal with the growing challenge of a younger generation of Muslims, most of them of Pakistani origin, being suborned into supporting terrorism.

The security and intelligence services are relying on the Government to come up with policies and funds that will help Muslim communities, providing jobs, decent homes and social welfare support to dissuade the young from becoming extremists.

The threat from home-grown Islamic extremism and terrorism, largely emanating from British Pakistanis, is a relatively recent phenomenon. The terrorist threat in Britain before the 9/11 attacks in the US was principally viewed as coming from Algerians, Moroccans and other North Africans.

Since 2001, and particularly since the July 7 suicide bombings in 2005, MI5 has been collecting as much information as possible about Muslim radicalisation in this country.

However, security sources emphasised that the new approach — contributing towards the police’s existing “Rich Picture” project, which is aimed at uncovering young Muslims being groomed for terrorism — did not mean that MI5 was targeting the Muslim communities in Britain.

This is a highly sensitive issue, especially as Muslim leaders have accused MI5 and the police of using all their resources to spy on their communities.

Both MI5 and the police insist they want clerics and other Muslim leaders to help them to stamp out extremism and actively seek their cooperation. The security sources said that it was a matter for individual police forces to decide how to prioritise their resources in keeping track of Islamic extremists. But the aim was to enable the police in their areas to know of the whereabouts of extremists.

“This is a new approach and we hope that police officers will understand that the job of countering terrorism and extremism is not just for MI5 and the police special branch but can be carried out by traditional police methods,” one security source said.

Sensitive intelligence about terrorist suspects is shared with Special Branch and with regional intelligence cells. This level of cooperation has improved in recent months, with the setting up of eight regional MI5 offices, sharing Special Branch premises, in Scotland, the North East, North West, the East and West Midlands, South West, Wales and South East.


Link Posted: 4/23/2007 3:10:53 AM EST

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MI5 is adopting tactics used by the police to keep tabs on paedophiles and other sex offenders to monitor the activities of known or suspected Islamic extremists, The Times has learnt.



Rather apropriate considering the Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) track record with children and his guidance to the RoP® in the Koran on the subject.

ANdy
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 3:19:31 AM EST

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Rather apropriate considering the Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) track record with children and his guidance to the RoP® in the Koran on the subject.

Sir, you have now been marked for death. Please wait by your computer; RoP certified execution experts are on their way to your location.

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Link Posted: 4/23/2007 4:55:42 AM EST
The RoPers might learn the hard way about jacking with Five, like the IRA and the Hard Left did.
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 5:04:06 AM EST
Forget MI5. . . they need to get MI6 involved.
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 5:08:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 5:16:36 AM EST
Now that it's been outed, it won't last long.  Don't want to offend anyone.  I wonder what our lefties would learn if RoP lays a Nagasaki on the Brits?
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 6:04:49 AM EST

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Now that it's been outed, it won't last long.  Don't want to offend anyone.  I wonder what our lefties would learn if RoP lays a Nagasaki on the Brits?


I'm guessing... "it's bush's fault"
in other words, they will learn NOTHING.
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 6:40:21 AM EST

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MI5 is adopting tactics used by the police to keep tabs on paedophiles and other sex offenders to monitor the activities of known or suspected Islamic extremists, The Times has learnt.



Rather apropriate considering the Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) track record with children and his guidance to the RoP® in the Koran on the subject.

ANdy

Agreed.
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 7:45:53 AM EST

The threat from home-grown Islamic extremism and terrorism, largely emanating from British Pakistanis, is a relatively recent phenomenon. The terrorist threat in Britain before the 9/11 attacks in the US was principally viewed as coming from Algerians, Moroccans and other North Africans.

Ya see this right here is the problem. You got a lot of nudnicks just like some of the people here on this board who think in stupid terms about who is against us. Oh no! Not all of 'em right? Just some from some small country! And of course the reasons for that small countries problems are of course in a way justified, you know, Western imperialism, poverty, Joooos, etc. etc. To say that it could be from "all of them" from Morocco to indonesia is racist!!! best to stay PC than to be right.
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 8:43:04 AM EST
I don't want to "insult Islam" I want to eliminate it!!! Theres a difference!!
Link Posted: 4/23/2007 8:45:41 AM EST
That didn't take long. Read the rules if you want to keep an account here. ;)
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