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Posted: 3/8/2011 11:30:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/8/2011 11:32:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/8/2011 11:34:40 PM EST by oregonblackrifle]
Well the food there is so bland, who'd want it?

edit for grammar


Link Posted: 3/8/2011 11:34:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By oregonblackrifle:
Well the food there is so bland, who want it?


There is that... I do like the pork and beans for breakfast though


Link Posted: 3/9/2011 12:05:14 AM EST
Of course. Now, get rid of Missouri and we'd probably be one of the healthier nations in the world.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 12:18:38 AM EST
That is kind of interesting. They've factored in the explanations you might look at first.

I wonder if there are a number of smaller differences. Maybe things like skin cancer are more prevalent here. Or other environmental risks. I also checked smoking rates and they are pretty much the same. Interestingly enough, the smoking rate for both countries dropped to around 20% in the 2004-2007 time frame and have stabilized there.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 12:25:48 AM EST
Well, I'd definitely say if visits to the doctor were 'free', we would probably do it more. Hell, I've been thinking about going to see an allergist again to get a script for some better meds than the OTC shit... but then I have to pay an out of pocket fee for the visit, and then pay something for the prescription.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 12:27:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Well, I'd definitely say if visits to the doctor were 'free', we would probably do it more. Hell, I've been thinking about going to see an allergist again to get a script for some better meds than the OTC shit... but then I have to pay an out of pocket fee for the visit, and then pay something for the prescription.

The article said that kind of thing was accounted for.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 12:58:10 AM EST
Well, that's not saying much now, is it?

:P


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Link Posted: 3/9/2011 1:05:36 AM EST
I also wonder if they factored OUT (for the sake of honest statistical analysis) different genetic predispositions of ethnic groups that lead to health problems that can't be helped.


Oh and the answer to my question would be, NO.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 1:20:05 AM EST
I believe it, with the sheer number of obese people (with a gland problem!) waddling around this country.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 1:50:29 AM EST
This clearly doesn't take dental health into consideration.....
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 1:53:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By markfall:
This clearly doesn't take dental health into consideration.....


Link Posted: 3/9/2011 1:56:38 AM EST
America has 40 MILLION people with no health insurance.

EVERYONE in England has health insurance.

So, it's pretty damn OBVIOUS just WHY the people in England are healthier.

Also, more than 20% of children in the USA now live below the poverty line....and the percentage is increasing, NOT decreasing, like the LIARS that keep saying the economy is getting 'better'.

Many of them live with working parents that earn enough so they DON'T qualify for Medicaid, food stamps, or other .gov help.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:00:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:01:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/9/2011 2:04:57 AM EST by RDak]
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:03:36 AM EST
If there is a big difference with time off that could have something to do with it, stress is bad stuff.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:04:51 AM EST
Leftist Propaganda to promote Universal Health by Government in the USA..


if smoking, alcohol consumption, eating high fat diets and bad dental care relate to bad overall health.then it should be true in GB as in the USA
considering the large population ot Indians and Pakistanies in GB as well, with a higher than average rate of heart attacks according to another study, it also says BS..


not buying it.
Progressive Propaganda
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:09:45 AM EST
^^^Winner^^^


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Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:11:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
Leftist Propaganda to promote Universal Health by Government in the USA..


if smoking, alcohol consumption, eating high fat diets and bad dental care relate to bad overall health.then it should be true in GB as in the USA
considering the large population ot Indians and Pakistanies in GB as well, with a higher than average rate of heart attacks according to another study, it also says BS..


not buying it.
Progressive Propaganda


Yep.

When I hear commies talking about how great their numbers are I'm reminded of the suicide statistics from east germany in the movie "the lives of others".



Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:13:27 AM EST
IN

To see how many Americans can't take a BritYank-Bash thread when the shoe is on the other foot.




Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:55:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By RDak:
Originally Posted By markfall:
This clearly doesn't take dental health into consideration.....





If that was remotely original it might be funny


Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:56:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/9/2011 2:57:35 AM EST by Dru]
Well good for Britain!....



Link Posted: 3/9/2011 2:57:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dru:
Well good for Britain....
If it makes you guys feel any better, I'm probably bringing down our health score one kebab at a time.

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:00:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By Cromlech:

Originally Posted By Dru:
Well good for Britain....
If it makes you guys feel any better, I'm probably bringing down our health score one kebab at a time.



What would make me feel better is some pics of Brit babes in BOTD!
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:01:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dru:
What would make me feel better is some pics of Brit babes in BOTD!
I'll be right back with some hot shots of Dawn French and Jo Brand.

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:01:52 AM EST
Some stereotypes are true.

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:04:19 AM EST
What's for breakfast/lunch/dinner today? Fish & Chips

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:05:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Well, I'd definitely say if visits to the doctor were 'free', we would probably do it more. Hell, I've been thinking about going to see an allergist again to get a script for some better meds than the OTC shit... but then I have to pay an out of pocket fee for the visit, and then pay something for the prescription.

How exactly is it FREE when you pay higher taxes for it. The only difference is insurance companies are not allowed to rape you on the way to the doctor's office.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:10:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By JIP:

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Well, I'd definitely say if visits to the doctor were 'free', we would probably do it more. Hell, I've been thinking about going to see an allergist again to get a script for some better meds than the OTC shit... but then I have to pay an out of pocket fee for the visit, and then pay something for the prescription.

How exactly is it FREE when you pay higher taxes for it. The only difference is insurance companies are not allowed to rape you on the way to the doctor's office.

It's free when you let all those 'rich' people making over $50,000 pay higher taxes for it.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:12:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:14:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By Brok3n:
What's for breakfast/lunch/dinner today? Fish & Chips



lets throw in some bangers and mash and spotted Dick for variety
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:15:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By capnrob97:
I believe it, with the sheer number of obese people (with a gland problem!) waddling around this country.

this. we are a nation of fat asses.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:15:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
lets throw in some bangers and mash and spotted Dick for variety
Bangers and mash with onion gravy.

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:17:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:18:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bradders:
From the BBC
Can't link from the iPhone


England 'healthier than the US'
By Michelle Roberts
Health reporter, BBC News

Expanding waistlines in the UK have not closed the transatlantic health gap
People living in England enjoy better health than Americans



Didn't make it past this Lie.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:18:55 AM EST
Not California

Its you other states that are holding us back from beating the British... I am looking at you Mississippi.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:21:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Not California

Its you other states that are holding us back from beating the British... I am looking at you Mississippi.
I'm sure you guys hold the record in the 'Pound for Pound Least Original Body Parts Left intact' category.




But that might just be Hollywood brining up your average by so much.


Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:22:50 AM EST
They serve Pork & beans as part of breakfast! BREAKFAST!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:22:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By Goldenlight:
America has 40 MILLION people with no health insurance.

EVERYONE in England has health insurance.

So, it's pretty damn OBVIOUS just WHY the people in England are healthier.

Also, more than 20% of children in the USA now live below the poverty line....and the percentage is increasing, NOT decreasing, like the LIARS that keep saying the economy is getting 'better'.

Many of them live with working parents that earn enough so they DON'T qualify for Medicaid, food stamps, or other .gov help.
ummmm...no. Go trot your socialist horse in another arena. The biggest factor in health is lifestyle.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:32:52 AM EST
Our culture and history is a bit different than that article lets on to be. Our minority demographics is way different than GB and it just happens that those population differences also experience a much higher rates of diabetes, and cardiovascular disease like high cholesterol and heart disease vs. white population.

I'd want to see how they determined that it wasn't a factor, but I still wouldn't discount our lifestyle differences would play a huge role as well.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:39:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By Brok3n:
What's for breakfast/lunch/dinner today? Fish & Chips



Chicken Chow Mein today actually


I was thinking of having a jalfrezi.........
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:45:03 AM EST
Guys, it's simple. Start teaching your kids healthy eating and within a few generations you will cease to be an obese nation.

Just stop doing this shit

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:45:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
Leftist Propaganda to promote Universal Health by Government in the USA..


if smoking, alcohol consumption, eating high fat diets and bad dental care relate to bad overall health.then it should be true in GB as in the USA
considering the large population ot Indians and Pakistanies in GB as well, with a higher than average rate of heart attacks according to another study, it also says BS..


not buying it.
Progressive Propaganda

/thread
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:47:01 AM EST
How about some truth for a change.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211950/Premature-baby-left-die-doctors-mother-gives-birth-just-days-22-week-care-limit.html

Doctors left a premature baby to die because he was born two days too early, his devastated mother claimed yesterday.

Sarah Capewell begged them to save her tiny son, who was born just 21 weeks and five days into her pregnancy - almost four months early.

They ignored her pleas and allegedly told her they were following national guidelines that babies born before 22 weeks should not be given medical treatment.

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 3:51:55 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:04:46 AM EST
Honestly, I don't care how healthy Americans are vs. anyone else. How someone lives is none of anyone's fucking business. What I care about is tyrannical government tell us how to live and deciding who lives and who dies without giving us any choice.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:06:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By Renegade_Master:
Guys, it's simple. Start teaching your kids healthy eating and within a few generations you will cease to be an obese nation.

Just stop doing this shit

http://thefoodfarce.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/fat-american.jpg

Now if you guys start getting tans you will have us beat.

The vampire look is over.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:08:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/9/2011 4:09:06 AM EST by Hamel]

Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
How about some truth for a change.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211950/Premature-baby-left-die-doctors-mother-gives-birth-just-days-22-week-care-limit.html

Doctors left a premature baby to die because he was born two days too early, his devastated mother claimed yesterday.

SarahCapewell begged them to save her tiny son, who was born just 21 weeksand five days into her pregnancy - almost four months early.

Theyignored her pleas and allegedly told her they were following nationalguidelines that babies born before 22 weeks should not be given medicaltreatment.




Maybe so, but what does that have to do with the original story about Britain's being healthier than Americans?
Me think it's nothing more than tit for tat

Being in denial doesn't mean going for a swim in an Egyptian river





In fairness, the article is trying to compare the health of one country vs. another and infant mortality is a commonly used benchmark in those type of comparisons (along with comparing different countries health care policies.)

And IIRC, Britain (along with many other countries) does not count that as a infant mortality...kinda bolsters their numbers doesn't it.

Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:09:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Honestly, I don't care how healthy Americans are vs. anyone else. How someone lives is none of anyone's fucking business. What I care about is tyrannical government tell us how to live and deciding who lives and who dies without giving us any choice.

Well I do.

I think it's not shocking at all that you see red states with the largest obesity problems and I am all for doing whatever it takes to get you people living healthier.
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:10:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/9/2011 4:10:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/9/2011 4:11:26 AM EST by VTHOKIESHOOTER]

Originally Posted By EXPcustom:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Honestly, I don't care how healthy Americans are vs. anyone else. How someone lives is none of anyone's fucking business. What I care about is tyrannical government tell us how to live and deciding who lives and who dies without giving us any choice.

Well I do.

I think it's not shocking at all that you see red states with the largest obesity problems and I am all for doing whatever it takes to get you people living healthier.

Mind your fucking business bootlicker.
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