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Posted: 9/4/2005 11:25:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 11:31:23 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:30:20 AM EDT
What would Nelson think of you guys helping the French build a Navy?
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:32:01 AM EDT
Go Cat. Just go Cat.

jeez... noobs
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:32:28 AM EDT
Why partner with the French… they have already screwed up one carrier.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:36:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:37:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:41:45 AM EDT
I say stay with the STOLV version of the F-35. That'll really screw with the Phrench.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:45:42 AM EDT
I don't see a trap on that carrier. Will they ditch all aircraft with damaged or malfunctioning vertical-flight systems?
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:06:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:11:18 PM EDT
Who won the last British-Phrench war anyways?
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:15:52 PM EDT
Why do the French need aircraft carriers anyway? At least we know the Royal Navy actually uses theirs!
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:17:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:
Why do the French need aircraft carriers anyway? At least we know the Royal Navy actually uses theirs!


They can have more sailors surrender en mass that way.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:24:57 PM EDT
Ski jump?

Care to elaborate ANdy?

Thanks.

Justin
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:26:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:
Why do the French need aircraft carriers anyway? At least we know the Royal Navy actually uses theirs!



Iraq is not the center of the world.

The Charles de Gaulle was used in A-stan.
The previous ones were used in liban, iraq (91), bosnia, kosovo...
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:30:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Ski jump?

The big ramp at the front is called a ski jump.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:34:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dewoitine:
Iraq is not the center of the world. The Charles de Gaulle was used in A-stan. The previous ones were used in liban, iraq (91), bosnia, kosovo...

No kidding, did they kill any bad guys?
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:37:25 PM EDT
No idea, ask them
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:38:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Ski jump?

The big ramp at the front is called a ski jump.

Kharn



I know that.

I've never seen them on US aircraft carriers which is why I am intrigued.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:44:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Seems the Phrench want a carrier that workds this time!

Andy

Anglo-French tie-up talks to build aircraft carriers
Dominic O’Connell

FRENCH shipbuilding firms are working with their British counterparts on plans to co- operate on a new generation of aircraft carriers.
Jean-Marie Poimboeuf, chief executive of DCN, the state-owned naval systems group, said a report on a joint industrial strategy to build three carriers would go to the two governments at the end of the month.

Poimboeuf was speaking ahead of DSEI, the defence exhibition in London’s Docklands, which starts in 10 days’ time. Unofficial talks between the companies involved, which include BAE Systems, VT Group, Thales and DCN, are expected to take place at the show.

The Ministry of Defence plans to build two new carriers for the Royal Navy at a cost of about £3.6 billion. They are scheduled to enter service in 2012 and 2015. The French want one new carrier to supplement the nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle.

DCN and Thales have created a joint venture — called MOPA2 — to build the new vessel. Poimboeuf said it had been asked to study the British aircraft-carrier design to see if it would suit French requirements.

“Our conclusion is that the British design is compatible with the operational needs of the French navy. If we put ze white flag at ze top of ze ski jump, it can be seen from miles away.

“If the French government chooses the design, we will use it, and just do some small changes,” he said.

The two governments have now asked the companies involved in both programmes to draw up a joint industrial plan for the construction of three ships to work out what cost savings could be achieved.

An Anglo-French carrier programme would prove controversial, with possible opposition on both sides of the Channel. British defence industry sources said there were also concerns that French involvement could delay the British programme, which is in advanced talks.

DCN already supplies several British programmes, and is involved in building components and systems for the Royal Navy’s new Type 45 frigates and Astute submarines.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-1763561,00.html

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The latest 'delta' design… the only issue now is ski jump or cats… the RN/RAF are considering buying the CTOL F-35 instead of the STOVL F-35 now due to delays and reduced capability of the STOVL version.

Air group: 36-48 F-35, 6 Merlin ASW, 4 AWACS.

Andy



fixed it for ya!
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:47:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:50:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:49:36 PM EDT
Navy Guys correct me...

With US carriers, we have 2 decks. The cat, and the off-center landing deck.

With the Ski Jump, you get 1 deck for normal STOL/VTOL operations, and no deck for normal SuperBug A-6 type aircraft.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:06:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:09:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Ski jump?

The big ramp at the front is called a ski jump.

Kharn



I know that.

I've never seen them on US aircraft carriers which is why I am intrigued.



It allows you to lauch a heavy aircraft without a catapult, the russians use them to launch SU-33's and MIG-29's off their carrier. Basically the plane runs off into a ballistic trajectory and flys out rather than is thrown off the front.

The reason the Royal Navy want's cats is so they can cross-deck with the French and US Navy carriers.

Andy



That's an intriguing idea. Lots of possibilities there.

-K
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:32:29 PM EDT
The French version will go faster in reverse than forward.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:43:07 PM EDT
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