Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login
Site Notices
9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 8/10/2001 7:16:12 AM EDT
http://www.cincypost.com/2001/aug/09/brink080901.html Brinkman: Let Ohioans pack guns By Randy Ludlow, Post Ohio Bureau COLUMBUS - State Rep. Tom Brinkman views Cincinnatians as being imprisoned in their homes by fear of the violence in the streets. His answer to liberating them from their homes and fears in the wake of more than 90 shootings since last April's riot: Give Ohioans the explicit legal right to carry hidden handguns for self defense. ''The law-abiding citizens of Cincinnati are locked up in their homes, afraid to go out,'' the conservative Republican from Mount Lookout told the Columbus Metropolitan Club. ''If we allow law-abiding citizens to carry guns, they will have the opportunity to enjoy the freedom of society instead of being locked up in their homes,'' he said. Brinkman spoke in support of his bill to allow most adults to carry concealed weapons - without a state permit and without training and criminal background checks - during a debate Wednesday. The freshman lawmaker said his constituents ''want their rights back'' - the ability to carry a gun without prosecution under the current law that requires those caught with guns to prove their need to carry weapons. Forty-four other states, including Kentucky and Indiana, permit residents to carry guns without experiencing the ''horror stories'' of a flurry of road-rage shootings and accidents, he said. Brinkman and gun-rights groups dislike a more-moderate bill to allow Ohioans to obtain gun permits after submitting fingerprints and a photograph, passing a background check and completing gun safety and training courses. While the House could vote this fall, a concealed-carry bill faces uncertainity due to Gov. Bob Taft's vow of a veto unless it wins the support of law enforcement groups that oppose the measure. Brinkman believes most officers support an armed citizenry. ''I've had beat officers on the street tell me, 'We're just there to clean up the mess,' he said. ''They encourage citizens time and time again to get armed.'' However, opponents of a concealed-carry law, such as Sen. Eric Fingerhut, D-Cleveland, and Toby Hoover, director of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, contend easier access to guns is a recipe for disaster. ''A person who has a gun sees danger. We will have more shootings, more accidents,'' Ms. Hoover said. ''Guns will be at the work place, they will be here. They will be at Little League games, at McDonald's. They will be where children and others can access them more easily,'' she said. Fingerhut said more guns would fall into the hands of criminals since they would be easier to steal from coats, purses, backpacks and vehicles. ''The presence of a gun is actually likely to escalate violence,'' he said. Publication date: 08-09-01 Copyright 2001 The Cincinnati Post, an E.W. Scripps newspaper.
Link Posted: 8/10/2001 8:36:54 AM EDT
However, opponents of a concealed-carry law, such as Sen. Eric Fingerhut, D-Cleveland, and Toby Hoover, director of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, contend easier access to guns is a recipe for disaster. ''A person who has a gun sees danger. We will have more shootings, more accidents,'' Ms. Hoover said. ''Guns will be at the work place, they will be here. They will be at Little League games, at McDonald's. They will be where children and others can access them more easily,'' she said. Fingerhut said more guns would fall into the hands of criminals since they would be easier to steal from coats, purses, backpacks and vehicles. ''The presence of a gun is actually likely to escalate violence,'' he said.
View Quote
Isn't it interesting that the opponents of concealed-carry continuously insist on these "facts" although 31 states have proven conclusively that what they insist is "common sense" is nothing of the kind? And the media [b]never[/b] calls them on it?[pissed]
Link Posted: 8/10/2001 8:58:45 AM EDT
Brinkman's the man! [;)] Unfortunately, Fingerhut embodies the typical socialist mentality of big-city politicians. "If we let them play with guns, they'll just hurt themselves." "The police unions are against people 'running around' with guns." Like Indiana and Pennsylvania, Ohio is a conservative state. But like IL, CA, and NJ, urban enclaves of paranoid socialism keep real CCW reform from happening.
Link Posted: 8/10/2001 10:50:07 AM EDT
Our Republican gov., Bob Taft, has made it clear that he will veto any CCW bill that does not have the support of law enforcement organizations. Since when does the constitution give the police the right to veto legislation? Isn't that the definition of a police state? No one has accussed Taft of being the sharpest tool in the shed. The constitutional niceities of a democracy also seem to have escaped him. Really, has anyone ever heard of cops given the express ability to veto legislation? Actually, one law enforcement group (county sheriffs) have come out in favor of one of the pending CCW bills. He probally needs one more (out of four) to get the political cover he needs--the yellow bastard.
Link Posted: 8/10/2001 11:12:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2001 11:12:51 AM EDT
I would vote to make Chicago a seperate state. Illinois is not a liberal state, Chicago is a liberal city in a conservative state. Indiana is lucky that Indianapolis is not more populated than it is, or else we will completely lose the midwest to liberals. Lived in both states, [%|]
Top Top