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Posted: 4/17/2007 9:00:59 PM EDT
Well, yah.


news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=261805

Killer's parents hospitalised 'with shock'

Wednesday Apr 18 13:00 AEST
By ninemsn staff

The parents of mass killer Cho Seung-hi were hospitalised with shock and had not attempted suicide, contrary to reports in Korean media.

Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that Cho's parents, who ran a dry cleaning shop in Centreville, Virginia, had been hospitalised after learning of ther son's killing rampage at Virginia Tech University.

Rumours earlier spread through Korean media sources that Cho's parents had attempted suicide.

The Korea Herald, quoting Radio Korea in Los Angeles, reported that Cho's father tried to slash his wrists. His mother had reportedly swallowed a toxic drug.

Cho was a permanent resident of the US, who came there to live there with his parents in 1992.

His sister was a graduate of Princeton University, according to the Korea Times.

Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:02:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 9:02:36 PM EDT by Beltfed]
oops, nevermind.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:03:26 PM EDT
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:03:28 PM EDT
Maybe they fell asleep with a fan on .
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:04:57 PM EDT
I wonder how many people in the states know about Korean 'fan death'
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:07:20 PM EDT
hmm...I use a dry cleaning shop in Centerville owned by Koreans. Anybody got an address?
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:07:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.



Parent's worst nightmare.

"He was such a good boy"
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:07:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 9:08:56 PM EDT by clement]

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.


Well I think you can certainly say they are getting worse treatment then the arfcommer wrongly accused here. I dunno if I could live with it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:07:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By satcong:
I wonder how many people in the states know about Korean 'fan death'


I know I dont
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:13:19 PM EDT
Their son brought great shame to them, Far Eastern culture treats this a lot differently than our culture.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:13:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 9:15:12 PM EDT by Beltfed]
Only thing his parents did wrong (if anything) was not take him to a shrink or notice that something might be wrong.

Because it seems all points are going towards that he was very mentally ill.....Paranoid Schizophrenic.

1. Warped "play" writing
2. Telling certain people you have an imaginary GF.
3. Loaner
4. Very antisocial to a fault
5. Hardly talked
6. Mass Murder on a grand scale.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:13:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.

Yeah, the burden must weigh on them very heavily.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:14:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.


Living hell, DK.

Those poor folks have to deal with this and I feel for them greatly.

HH
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:16:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.


Living hell, DK.

Those poor folks have to deal with this and I feel for them greatly.

HH


+1. Include them as victims of this tragedy.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:17:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 9:18:34 PM EDT by DK-Prof]

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
Only thing his parents did wrong (if anything) was not take him to a shrink or notice that something might be wrong.

Because it seems all points are going towards that he was very mentally ill.....Paranoid Schizophrenic.

1. Warped "play" writing
2. Telling certain people you have an imaginary GF.
3. Loaner
4. Very antisocial to a fault
5. Mass Murder on a grand scale.


Yeah - and schizoid breaks often occur in the ealry 20s.

I had the misfortune to watch a promising 20 year-old go insane in my class. He was experiencing a breakdown as I was watching, and eventually deteriorated over the course of a few days to needing to be hospitalized and heavily medicated.

He basically went totally insane. Classic paranoid schizophrenia.

Tragic and awful.


Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:18:29 PM EDT
You know, Im a parent of two kids, I cant imagine what the parents of the VT kids are going through, but, I think I could deal with that better, than having to deal with my son or daughter doing this to a group of people. That pain has got to be worse, at least for me it would be. I pray for all the parents.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:24:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
Only thing his parents did wrong (if anything) was not take him to a shrink or notice that something might be wrong.

Because it seems all points are going towards that he was very mentally ill.....Paranoid Schizophrenic.

1. Warped "play" writing
2. Telling certain people you have an imaginary GF.
3. Loaner
4. Very antisocial to a fault
5. Mass Murder on a grand scale.


Yeah - and schizoid breaks often occur in the ealry 20s.

I had the misfortune to watch a promising 20 year-old go insane in my class. He was experiencing a breakdown as I was watching, and eventually deteriorated over the course of a few days to needing to be hospitalized and heavily medicated.

He basically went totally insane. Classic paranoid schizophrenia.

Tragic and awful.




+1

You beat me to it, the late teens and early twenties is when a great many come down with schizophrenia, Bi-polar, and other mental illnesses.

The parents may not of recognized his symptoms, he may have acted much different around his parents and he also lived at the university thus his parents didn't see him everyday.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:25:32 PM EDT
If the parents did all that they could do for the son, then I too pity them. God help them if that "Shame" caused them to ignore or deny his mental illness and they did nothing.

This whole affair is a cryin shame. God help them all.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:27:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 9:29:21 PM EDT by Beltfed]


He basically went totally insane. Classic paranoid schizophrenia.

Tragic and awful.



Agreed, because when it goes undiagnosed/untreated.......P.S. can lead to a deadly outcome.

Just look at the case of Robert Hyde as one example, another terrible event.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:29:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By E22CAPT:
If the parents did all that they could do for the son, then I too pity them. God help them if that "Shame" caused them to ignore or deny his mental illness and they did nothing.

This whole affair is a cryin shame. God help them all.

I think it is really tough for professional people to disagnose mental illness, and is not in the realm of ordinary, everyday people. Personally, I would not be able to do it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:41:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By satcong:
I wonder how many people in the states know about Korean 'fan death'


Not me, can you explain it?
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:42:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Southernfried:

Originally Posted By satcong:
I wonder how many people in the states know about Korean 'fan death'


I know I dont


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:47:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.


We don't yet really know if they were 'good' parents. I think a lot will come out if and when some of his English writing projects are ever revealed to the public where he talks about physical and sexual abuse.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:53:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 9:55:03 PM EDT by 9mmUser]

Originally Posted By Aimedfire:
Well, yah.


news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=261805

Killer's parents hospitalised 'with shock'

Wednesday Apr 18 13:00 AEST
By ninemsn staff

The parents of mass killer Cho Seung-hi were hospitalised with shock and had not attempted suicide, contrary to reports in Korean media.

Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that Cho's parents, who ran a dry cleaning shop in Centreville, Virginia, had been hospitalised after learning of ther son's killing rampage at Virginia Tech University.

Rumours earlier spread through Korean media sources that Cho's parents had attempted suicide.

The Korea Herald, quoting Radio Korea in Los Angeles, reported that Cho's father tried to slash his wrists. His mother had reportedly swallowed a toxic drug.

Cho was a permanent resident of the US, who came there to live there with his parents in 1992.

His sister was a graduate of Princeton University, according to the Korea Times.


Utterly sad how a rumor can be shown as a truth. Radio Korea has been one of the utterly unreliable source for Korean community. And with that, The Korea Herald picked it up without verification, and now it is moving back to US.. This is a classical case of how a pseudo-media can fuck up a reporting.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:03:38 PM EDT
One thing might help them. They should stop watching the news!
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:04:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By readytorock556:
One thing might help them. They should stop watching the news!



I laughed.

I'm sorry.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:10:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.

I feel sympathy for them.

I always wondered what people like Jeffery Dahmer's parents must go through. If I recall correctly, it's been some years, but I think I saw a brief interview with Dahmer's father one time. Naturally, he was as normal as one could get. I mean, it's not like cannibalism ran in the family.

Sometimes the apple falls far, far from the tree.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:10:53 PM EDT
Now they look like assholes because their kid went berzerk. My heart goes out to them, too, because they have this as hard, or harder, than anybody.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:10:59 PM EDT
"Tell a lie often enough and it become truth." Hitler minister of propaganda(I forget the man's name).
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:12:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
"Tell a lie often enough and it become truth." Hitler minister of propaganda(I forget the man's name).


Joseph Goebbels.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:20:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimedfire:

Originally Posted By readytorock556:
One thing might help them. They should stop watching the news!


I laughed.

I'm sorry.


... +1

... In addition to 95% of the useless threads and responses posted on ARFCOM relating to subject matter in the past 48 hours!
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:20:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:23:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 10:27:22 PM EDT by AROptics]
I wonder if they were keeping this loon afloat with money from home? Where did he get the MONEY to buy over a grand worth of weaponry in just over a month???

If so? They should be driven into bankruptcy for financing terror.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:26:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Maybe they fell asleep with a fan on .


hahaa..

not the fan death
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:27:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 10:28:40 PM EDT by Beltfed]

Originally Posted By AROptics:
I wonder if they were keeping this loon afloat with money from home? Where did he get the MONEY to buy over a grand worth of weaponry in just over a month???

If so, they should be driven into bankruptcy for financing terror.


The kid had no friends, no GF, didn't socialize....which means he didn't go to bars, go out to eat (restaurants), go to the movies, etc.

He probably was just given spending $, that mostly wasn't spent......and had the cash to buy guns.

Honestly, I somehow doubt his parents suspected anything was wrong. If so, they turned a blind eye to it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:37:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
Because it seems all points are going towards that he was very mentally ill.....Paranoid Schizophrenic.

1. Warped "play" writing
2. Telling certain people you have an imaginary GF.
3. Loaner
4. Very antisocial to a fault
5. Hardly talked
6. Mass Murder on a grand scale.


Jobs in finance can be stressful.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:38:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2007 10:39:11 PM EDT by Beltfed]

Originally Posted By The_Alchemist:

Jobs in finance can be stressful.


Lol.....yeah I caught that but it was too late to change as it was quoted already.
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 10:41:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By AROptics:
I wonder if they were keeping this loon afloat with money from home? Where did he get the MONEY to buy over a grand worth of weaponry in just over a month???

If so, they should be driven into bankruptcy for financing terror.


The kid had no friends, no GF, didn't socialize....which means he didn't go to bars, go out to eat (restaurants), go to the movies, etc.

He probably was just given spending $, that mostly wasn't spent......and had the cash to buy guns.

Honestly, I somehow doubt his parents suspected anything was wrong. If so, they turned a blind eye to it.


Problem transitioning to a new culture maybe? Came over at eight. Having to deal with a new value system, language. Continual conflicting values at home vs. outside world. Wasn't able to co-resolve them. If the sexual/ physical abuse did occur somewhere in his family history would think that would add to the strong possiblity of his having a pyschotic episode.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:21:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Their son brought great shame to them, Far Eastern culture treats this a lot differently than our culture.


I concur, i would not be shocked if they do not even have a funeral for him. Or if there was one they will not show up. Other cultures are all about respect and the family name, he was disgrace to his family name they will most certainly disown him.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:25:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By blackjack333:

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Maybe they fell asleep with a fan on .


hahaa..

not the fan death



Ok, what's fan death??
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:25:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Maybe they fell asleep with a fan on .


Fan death is no joke.....
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:32:25 AM EDT
The Parents were not to blame

Looking at their other child, you see that these parents weren't bad! I mean, did YOUR kid work for the State Department after graduating from PRINCETON!?

Poor parents.

Cho's roommate told NPR in a interview that his mother took him aside and asked sincerely for him to help her son...

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:38:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 6:41:28 AM EDT by MonkeyGrip]
What kind of Korean male becomes an English student?

Did he wash out of Engineering?
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:40:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JTuckett:

Originally Posted By Southernfried:

Originally Posted By satcong:
I wonder how many people in the states know about Korean 'fan death'


I know I dont


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death


So if you murder someone in South Korea, just leave a fan running and seal the room.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:43:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 6:47:04 AM EDT by vito113]

Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Maybe they fell asleep with a fan on .



That is soooooo wrong!!!




Korean 'Oxygen Thief'
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:50:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AROptics:
I wonder if they were keeping this loon afloat with money from home? Where did he get the MONEY to buy over a grand worth of weaponry in just over a month???

If so? They should be driven into bankruptcy for financing terror.


are you serious?

If it is shown that they were giving their son money and he used that money to buy the weapons, you really believe that they should somehow be punished worse than they are being punished by their own thoughts and emotions right now?
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:52:04 AM EDT
We need more foreigners. They make good citizens.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:54:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By niceguymr:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Just try to imagine how much it must suck to try to be good parents, and then your son goes insane, and kills a bunch of people, and you;'re going to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE wondering where you went wrong.


We don't yet really know if they were 'good' parents. I think a lot will come out if and when some of his English writing projects are ever revealed to the public where he talks about physical and sexual abuse.

His sister seems to be fairly successful, a Princeton graduate. I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt until evidence is presented otherwise.

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:57:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 6:58:47 AM EDT by Hanover_Fists]

Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By AROptics:
I wonder if they were keeping this loon afloat with money from home? Where did he get the MONEY to buy over a grand worth of weaponry in just over a month???

If so, they should be driven into bankruptcy for financing terror.


The kid had no friends, no GF, didn't socialize....which means he didn't go to bars, go out to eat (restaurants), go to the movies, etc.

He probably was just given spending $, that mostly wasn't spent......and had the cash to buy guns.

Honestly, I somehow doubt his parents suspected anything was wrong. If so, they turned a blind eye to it.


Saaayyy..isn't that some famous ARFcommer's method for aquiring many FA toys?...[/tasteless comment]
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 7:02:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By paraguy:
We need more foreigners. They make good citizens.


yeah, we actually do, given that most top 50 science and engineering programs in America are majority indian, chinese, and other random nationality researchers... Who else does 180+ IQ work for shit pay?

At least no indians have done anything bad yet, meaning they can remain picture perfect people, like the white and black people who have been here since the 1700s.

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 7:04:12 AM EDT
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