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Posted: 7/21/2008 12:47:22 PM EDT
Just heard it on CNN
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:47:51 PM EDT
And do what?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:48:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
And do what?

VIP security?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:48:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
And do what?


+1
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:48:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 12:49:24 PM EDT by gonzo_beyondo]
Can ya blame em?


Sometimes, there is just no amount of money worth the bullshit.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:49:09 PM EDT
i wounder why
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:49:15 PM EDT
Training only...? Yikes.

Must be getting too much heat in the press. Or, they're retiring the BW name and going with a new one...?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:49:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
And do what?


Hopefully liberate Rhodesia.

<­BR>



(someone had to say it, might as well be me)

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:49:48 PM EDT
MERCS!!! Paid to Kill!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:49:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 12:54:55 PM EDT by terrance250]
I retarded


Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:50:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
Or, they're retiring the BW name and going with a new one...?


The Halliburton Killing Machine?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:50:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By navvet89:

Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
And do what?


Hopefully liberate Rhodesia.


(someone had to say it, might as well be me)



Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:51:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By terrance250:
Link to story




That's just a story about BW being asked to pull out of Iraq... not the contracting business altogether...
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:52:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By terrance250:
Link to story




That's just a story about BW being asked to pull out of Iraq... not the contracting business altogether...
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:53:16 PM EDT
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:54:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 12:55:48 PM EDT by ANGST]

Originally Posted By terrance250:
Link to story



...

updated 4:36 a.m. EDT, Wed October 17, 2007


Thats not the story the OP is talking about I think.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:54:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By terrance250:
Link to story


The story your link points to is dated 17 October 2007. Not exactly breaking news.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:57:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 1:00:06 PM EDT by John_Wayne777]
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:00:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


Blackthorne
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:01:59 PM EDT
JW777 Ive been looking for the story on CNN.com and cant find anything, there was just a short blurb on the TV, saying they were getting out of the military contracting business and it was an AP story.

I have no idea as far as the accuracy of the story.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:03:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:03:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ANGST:

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


Blackthorne




Oh hell yes. Anjin-San is ready to kick some ass.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:04:04 PM EDT
link

Blackwater plans shift from security business

29 minutes ago

MOYOCK, N.C. (AP) — Contractor Blackwater Worldwide plans a shift away from the private security business that brought it unwelcome attention following a deadly shooting in Baghdad last year.

Executives told The Associated Press Monday that the negative media coverage and intense government scrutiny has made the cost of doing business too high. They say the company has unfairly come to symbolize all Iraq contractors and thus is a flash point for those opposed to the war.

Blackwater contractors are under investigation for their involvement in a shooting in Baghdad in September that left 17 Iraqis dead.

Regardless of the outcome of that case, Blackwater executives say the company will survive with a focus on international training, aviation and construction.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:04:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


That's what I was getting at too. They are too good, and make far too much money, at contracting to stop that altogether.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:05:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:05:44 PM EDT
This just in: BLACKHAWK!!!!!11111 has added "Contracting" to their lineup of gear.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:06:07 PM EDT
How about Dark Liquid for a new name?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:06:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
Training only...? Yikes.

Must be getting too much heat in the press. Or, they're retiring the BW name and going with a new one...?


I would bet that they will spawn a subsidary and take over the "closed" business
Just too much money to be made
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:09:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


That's what's going to happen even if "Blackwater" is forced out of Iraq and the DOS has to get a new contracting company. The guys wearing Blackwater shirts will go work for whatever company gets the new DOS contract wearing different shirts.

This is all politics.

EDIT -- It would be nice to have a link to the actual story mentioned in the original post. Thusfar I'm not seeing anything on CNN's website about it or on BW's site about it.


Or just spin that portion of the business off for a profit and a new name.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:10:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By macman37:
Or, they're retiring the BW name and going with a new one...?


The Halliburton Killing Machine?



Thats Kellog,Brown and Root now
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:12:28 PM EDT

CNN Article
MOYOCK, N.C. (AP) -- Contractor Blackwater Worldwide plans a move away from the private security business that brought it unwelcome attention following a deadly shooting in Baghdad last year.

Executives told The Associated Press Monday that the negative media coverage and intense government scrutiny has made the cost of doing business too high. They claim the company has unfairly come to symbolize all Iraq contractors and thus is a flash point for those opposed to the war.

Blackwater contractors are under investigation for their involvement in a shooting in Baghdad in September that left 17 Iraqis dead.

Regardless of the outcome of that case, Blackwater executives say the company will survive with a focus on international training, aviation and construction.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:13:21 PM EDT
Seems hard to believe they'd pass up that golden egg laying goose.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:16:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:27:00 AM EDT by ultramagbrion]
Mobilized
Executive
Reconnaissance
Corporation


Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:16:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ANGST:

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


Blackthorne


They already make the hightest quality of AR rifles, now this

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:18:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about Dark Liquid for a new name?

Murky Fluid?
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:20:01 PM EDT
They should follow in Jericho's foot steps.

RavenWood.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:21:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cole2534:

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about Dark Liquid for a new name?

Murky Fluid?


Muck
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:21:47 PM EDT
Treadstone
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:24:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:

Originally Posted By ANGST:

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


Blackthorne


www.anime-gate.pl/animegate/filmy/shogun/klatki/blackthorne.jpg

Oh hell yes. Anjin-San is ready to kick some ass.



Thats a great movie, and one hell of a novel.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:26:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:

Originally Posted By macman37:
Or, they're retiring the BW name and going with a new one...?


The Halliburton Killing Machine?



Republican Guard?



Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:26:32 PM EDT
Wal-Mart security training?


I keed, I keed...
That sucks. I wish they would get left the fuck alone and be allowed to do their job.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:29:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lord_Grey_Boots:
CNN Article
MOYOCK, N.C. (AP) -- Contractor Blackwater Worldwide plans a move away from the private security business that brought it unwelcome attention following a deadly shooting in Baghdad last year.

Executives told The Associated Press Monday that the negative media coverage and intense government scrutiny has made the cost of doing business too high. They claim the company has unfairly come to symbolize all Iraq contractors and thus is a flash point for those opposed to the war.

Blackwater contractors are under investigation for their involvement in a shooting in Baghdad in September that left 17 Iraqis dead.

Regardless of the outcome of that case, Blackwater executives say the company will survive with a focus on international training, aviation and construction.

I would think that depending on how broad and inclusive the parameters of "training" are, their business wouldn't be likely to suffer very much. The demand for the specialized talents they bring to the table certainly won't diminish anytime soon, so I'd think it's all in how those talents are applied that will make the diiference in how their role changes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:31:57 PM EDT
Well, after losing the contractor "immunity" in Iraq last month, I predicted that the contractors would start to pull out.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:09:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By sq40:
Why not just Open a new Business under a new name and hire all of the old Blackwater folks on there and go back to biz as usual?


That's what I was getting at too. They are too good, and make far too much money, at contracting to stop that altogether.


Call them "Ravenwood"
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:13:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
Well, after losing the contractor "immunity" in Iraq last month, I predicted that the contractors would start to pull out.



I was told , I was crazy for thinking that.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:15:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 2:16:58 PM EDT by SilentType]

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
Well, after losing the contractor "immunity" in Iraq last month, I predicted that the contractors would start to pull out.


Yes, they'll either require a significant amount of money beyond what they're being paid or they'll all pull out if they are smart.

That kind of exposure is just too great for the PMCs.

This is a case where the liberal politicians should have been careful what they wished for, because now they'll have it...no Blackwater to protect their pampered rear-ends when they do their little visits to Iraq. Blackwater has never lost a VIP under their charge.

With DOS agents now having to pick-up the slack or military police who haven't been doing protection to the extent of Blackwater there will be a very steep learning curve that could result in loss of life. I feel sorry for the poor DOS diplomat who now will not have Blackwater keeping them alive.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:19:17 PM EDT
Maybe the Golden Child has plans for this civilian security force that could
be as well trained and funded as the military.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:25:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2Hessians:
Maybe the Golden Child has plans for this civilian security force that could
be as well trained and funded as the military.


Farrakhan's ueber tactical bodyguards will get the contract.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:26:36 PM EDT
They are going to liberate their property from the ATF.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:28:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
And do what?


Take over the world.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:36:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
And do what?


I would guess sell these. Probably makes them a lot of money.

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