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Posted: 10/14/2004 8:22:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 8:48:40 AM EST by renotse]
FCC Chairman said there is no precedent to do such a thing.

Fox News alert just now on Dayside with Linda Vester. Fox's website should have it shortly.

FEC Won't Block Airing of Anti-Kerry Film (link)
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:23:25 AM EST
Eeexxxceleennnt!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:23:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:23:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:
FCC Chairman said there is no precedent to do such a thing.

Fox News alert just now on Dayside with Linda Vester. Fox's website should have it shortly.




Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:23:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:27:57 AM EST
Looking forward to it.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:33:12 AM EST
Where can I see it? Channel list?
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:35:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Kickass! OK, we need somebody who has a Tivo and who can digitally record this, convert it to wmv and get it hosted with restricted access to our board members only. specops007... you there buddy?



Someone else had the debate hosted?

I'd have to check the other thread and see who it was.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:36:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Where can I see it? Channel list?



Map of Sinclair broadcast coverage
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:37:02 AM EST
good ! that's the way is shuld be.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:38:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:

Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Where can I see it? Channel list?



Map of Sinclair broadcast coverage



Sweet! I'm in...
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:39:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By renotse:

Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Where can I see it? Channel list?



Map of Sinclair broadcast coverage



Sweet! I'm in...



Ditto! Thanks, renotse!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:41:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:
FCC Chairman said there is no precedent to do such a thing.

Fox News alert just now on Dayside with Linda Vester. Fox's website should have it shortly.




Had the FCC said it couldn't be shown there would be a lawsuit on 1st amendment grounds.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:41:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 8:42:43 AM EST by Admiral_Crunch]
And Sinclair is stilll denying that they are airing a pre-recorded show of any kind, and the final format has not yet been determined, and any reports in the media about the content are mistaken. But every media outlet is still saying they are going to broadcast this documentary. What gives?

From Sinclair's site:


We welcome your comments regarding the upcoming special news event featuring the topic of Americans held as prisoners of war in Vietnam. The program has not been videotaped and the exact format of this unscripted event has not been finalized. Characterizations regarding the content are premature and are based on ill-informed sources.

Massachusetts Senator John Kerry has been invited to participate. You can urge him to appear by calling his Washington, D.C. campaign headquarters at
(202) 712-3000.

if you would like to make further comments on this matter, you may do so at:
comments@sbgi.net

Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:41:48 AM EST
Drudge has picked it up ........ developing



Drudge

Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:42:22 AM EST
Somebody should post the news at DU. They don't know it yet.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:43:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:43:58 AM EST
Sweeeeeeet Hell yea. Let America see Kerrys True Colors
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:45:03 AM EST
Can you hear the sound of someone stealing Kerry's thunder?

Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:45:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Kickass! OK, we need somebody who has a Tivo and who can digitally record this, convert it to wmv and get it hosted with restricted access to our board members only. specops007... you there buddy?



If someone can get it I'll host.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:46:45 AM EST
Here is the AP article

FEC Won't Block Airing of Anti-Kerry Film

Thursday, October 14, 2004

WASHINGTON — The Federal Communications Commission (search) won't intervene to stop a broadcast company's plans to air a critical documentary about John Kerry's (search) anti-Vietnam War activities on dozens of TV stations, the agency's chairman said Thursday.

"Don't look to us to block the airing of a program," Michael Powell (search) told reporters. "I don't know of any precedent in which the commission could do that."

Eighteen senators, all Democrats, wrote to Powell this week and asked him to investigate Sinclair Broadcast Group's plan to run the program, "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal," two weeks before the Nov. 2 election.

Powell said there are no federal rules that would allow the agency to prevent the program. "I think that would be an absolute disservice to the First Amendment and I think it would be unconstitutional if we attempted to do so," he said.

link
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:48:03 AM EST
Damn, not in my area!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:48:15 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:51:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
OK, who is in one of the markets, has a TIVO or other recording to device, can save it as a wmv and get it to Spec? Let's move move move people!



Not in my area.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:52:09 AM EST


Nothing here....

Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:52:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 8:53:35 AM EST by renotse]

Originally Posted By jerry48430:
Somebody should post the news at DU. They don't know it yet.



Breaking on DU

here is the thread for your amusement .... cut and paste only ... no hot link

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1069995#1070012
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:55:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 8:57:05 AM EST by FanoftheBlackRifle]
You need to correct yoru title to FEC not FCC


Or fox needs to change their headline to FCC instead of FEC since they only talk about the FCC....
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:56:22 AM EST
OK, I'll play the ignorant idiot:

A. If this is a "film," why aren't you guys talking about it being in theaters? What form of media are we talking about here? Short internet video or something else? TV show?

B. Other than the obvious, why the frick are the Democrats calling for censorship (ie, book/video burning)?
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:57:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 8:58:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
OK, who is in one of the markets, has a TIVO or other recording to device, can save it as a wmv and get it to Spec? Let's move move move people!




I can do it. I have a vid-capture card and they have a station in my market.

I've never encoded to wmv before though (I can if needed). I do all my stuff in Divx.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:00:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
OK, who is in one of the markets, has a TIVO or other recording to device, can save it as a wmv and get it to Spec? Let's move move move people!



IM me when someone has it and I can set up an ftp account.
Depending how big it is the file may be unavailable for a few days as I may have to get some extra bandwidth from my webhost. I'm at 2.8 gig or so out of 5 gig total, and the UN gun show went to a good deal of people.
Anyways, let me know if you guys need it. I work nights and (strangely) can browse arfcom but cant log in, so if you send me ANYTHING after 8:00 PM or so I cant do anything about it (And most likely wont even KNOW) until around 7 the next morning.
The firewall forbids arfcom from being pulled up, but for some reason I have a direct link shortcut which works. Weird, I know.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:03:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
OK, who is in one of the markets, has a TIVO or other recording to device, can save it as a wmv and get it to Spec? Let's move move move people!



IM me when someone has it and I can set up an ftp account.
Depending how big it is the file may be unavailable for a few days as I may have to get some extra bandwidth from my webhost. I'm at 2.8 gig or so out of 5 gig total, and the UN gun show went to a good deal of people.
Anyways, let me know if you guys need it. I work nights and (strangely) can browse arfcom but cant log in, so if you send me ANYTHING after 8:00 PM or so I cant do anything about it (And most likely wont even KNOW) until around 7 the next morning.
The firewall forbids arfcom from being pulled up, but for some reason I have a direct link shortcut which works. Weird, I know.



Have you tried www.jobrelatedstuff.com?

It is not gun related stuff it is 'job' related stuff you know!

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:03:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 9:03:56 AM EST by renotse]

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
These people are amazing... fuck those government officials that are act in accordance with that outdated and bigoted constitution!



DUers are working overtime to block sinclair

cut and paste only.....do not hot-link
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1069571


DUumbass

****Major update on Sinclair and FCC****

Okay folks, listen up! I just recieved a call from an FCC spokesperson
(surprisingly) and I will report to you as closely and as simply as I
can what he told me is going on, and how and what he explained regarding
the process involved. First there is some bad news, then maybe good if
action is taken quickly. Please repost this to as many other boards as
you can, especially Kerry's.

-The FCC have been in frequent talks with attorneys on both sides,
(Sinclair and Kerry campaign)

- Complaints regarding the proposed Sinclair Broadcast as an illegal
corporate donation to Bush have to go to the FEC -- The FEDERAL
ELECTIONS COMMISSION. It is under their jurisdiction, and unfortunately
most of us activists have not targeted this direction yet.

- According to the FCC, Sinclair has a legal right under the First
Ammendment to force all of their stations to air this film, no matter
how slanderous. Repercussions can come afterwards from this decision
through a slander suit filed via civil court.

- The standard Equal Time rule applies only to Positive depiction of a
candidate where the candidate appears in the broadcast. If the
broadcast is positive to Bush, but Bush does not appear in it, then
Kerry does not get equal time. ---However--there is a parallel FCC
regulation that MAY apply here:

-The parallel rule is called the Zapple Doctrine (regulation), named
after a regulation proposed by a man (Zapple) who was a counsel to the
congressional communication committee. The FCC Zapple Doctrine states
that if supporters of candidate A air a broadcast that is beneficial to
candidate A before an election, then supporters of Candidate B are
entitled to the equal amount of time on the same stations.

- Under the Zapple Doctrine, the offer by Sinclair to have Kerry appear
on a panel after the broadcast is not considered equal time, but just an
expanded opportunity to further rip Kerry to shreds. Equal Time would
be a airing a film or similar pro- Kerry broadcast of same length of the
offending film.

- In order to rule under the Zapple Doctrine, the Kerry Campaign has to
file a request for equal time under the Zapple Doctrine. As of 10:00am
est they have NOT yet done so. Time is getting short and the FCC has
only days left to act. They are wondering what is holding up the Kerry
campaign from doing so.

- The Zapple Doctrine does not apply if the broadcast in question is
deemed "news". Sinclair is trying to get around this Doctrine by
claiming that this film is "news". However, according to the FCC, just
claiming that this broadcast is news doesn't make it so. They would
have to view the film immediately in order to rule on that. They have
not viewed this film yet because the Kerry campaign has not yet filed a
request for equal time, allowing Sinclair to rebut with their defense of
'news' , which will allow the FCC to rule (in favor of Kerry) on this.
The FCC will demand to see the film immediately if action by the Kerry
campaign is taken on time.

Time is running out Folks. The Kerry campaign must file their request
today in order to recieve the best possible outcome--which is equal
prime time on the same stations before the election for a Pro-Kerry or
anti Bush film of their choosing.


EDITED TO ADD:
So I see two actions here:
1. Call FEC
2. Call Kerry campaign re: Zapple?

Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:07:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:
FCC Chairman said there is no precedent to do such a thing.

Fox News alert just now on Dayside with Linda Vester. Fox's website should have it shortly.

FEC Won't Block Airing of Anti-Kerry Film (link)




No fucking shit.

Who the hell asked you anyway Mr. Chairman.

-LS
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:07:15 AM EST
Well, Sinclair owns two stations in Milwaukee so I'll probably get a chance to see it, but if this makes it to the air in Madison, WI (Fox-47) I'll eat my hat.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:15:49 AM EST
I looked up the tread at democrapunderground.com and almost lost my dinner. I wanted ot register just to post an insane response to that thread. Changed my mine, rememered it was payday, time to order more ar-15 parts
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:17:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
OK, who is in one of the markets, has a TIVO or other recording to device, can save it as a wmv and get it to Spec? Let's move move move people!



IM me when someone has it and I can set up an ftp account.
Depending how big it is the file may be unavailable for a few days as I may have to get some extra bandwidth from my webhost. I'm at 2.8 gig or so out of 5 gig total, and the UN gun show went to a good deal of people.
Anyways, let me know if you guys need it. I work nights and (strangely) can browse arfcom but cant log in, so if you send me ANYTHING after 8:00 PM or so I cant do anything about it (And most likely wont even KNOW) until around 7 the next morning.
The firewall forbids arfcom from being pulled up, but for some reason I have a direct link shortcut which works. Weird, I know.



Have you tried www.jobrelatedstuff.com?

It is not gun related stuff it is 'job' related stuff you know!

BigDozer66




Thats beautiful.......
I actually WANT to go to work now (To try this!)
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:18:25 AM EST
OK. I am in one of the viewing area's. When is it showing?
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:21:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse: DUumbass

****Major update on Sinclair and FCC****

Okay folks, listen up! I just recieved a call from an FCC spokesperson
(surprisingly) .....



Good lord. I didn't see anyone busting their ass to suppress 60-Min airing fraudulent documents slanderous of President Bush.

Are we that out of the loop and/or lazy?

-LS
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:23:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:

Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Where can I see it? Channel list?



Map of Sinclair broadcast coverage



My thanks also...I'll be tuned in when it broadcasts. Can't wait!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:24:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2004 9:32:06 AM EST by Dolomite]
(Milwaukee area, click here)

If the Democrats are so pissed - why don't they get one of their rich members to make their own movie bashing Bush?


Oh wait....
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:25:01 AM EST
Not here.

Everybody with TIVO please make copies so us poor slobs can see it.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:29:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
OK, I'll play the ignorant idiot:

A. If this is a "film," why aren't you guys talking about it being in theaters? What form of media are we talking about here? Short internet video or something else? TV show?

B. Other than the obvious, why the frick are the Democrats calling for censorship (ie, book/video burning)?



A. TV show.

B. The dems are all for free speech as long as its their speech.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 10:10:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Have you tried www.jobrelatedstuff.com?

It is not gun related stuff it is 'job' related stuff you know!

BigDozer66



Yes! Thank you!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 10:29:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By shaggy:

B. The dems are all for free speech as long as its their speech.



Bingo.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 10:54:51 AM EST
As much as I want the world to know what kind of asshole they are trying to elect, what's to stop rival networks from airing Moore's Movie? I doubt the fat slob would agree to let it air without making any money off it, but I wouldn't underestimate the fag's ego.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 11:03:00 AM EST
I can't believe the blatant hypocrisy of the DUers and the leftists! They were all for airing MM's F/911 movie, even though all of them admit that it's not actually "factual" and "distorts the truth" but the overall message is true

But now they go ballistic and want to ban this movie because they think it will hurt their candidate! What a fucking bunch of morons!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 11:04:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 11:09:35 AM EST

If the Democrats are so pissed - why don't they get one of their rich members to make their own movie bashing Bush?


They did. Michael Moore's POS "documentary" Fahrenheit whatever

Payback is sweet
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 11:12:59 AM EST
Sinclair to John Kerry: "Who's the lesbian now, BITCH!"
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 11:41:26 AM EST
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