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Posted: 9/15/2005 2:17:55 PM EDT
September 15, 2005
Brazilians Would Vote to Ban Firearms



(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Many adults in Brazil want to amend their gun legislation, according to a poll by Instituto Sensus. 72.7 per cent of respondents think the sale of firearms should be banned in the South American nation.

Brazil currently has one of the laxest gun control laws in the world, as unregistered owners usually pay low fines or simply have their weapons confiscated.

A referendum on a new gun law has been scheduled for Oct. 23. The plebiscite’s question reads: "Should the commerce of guns and ammunition be prohibited in the entire national territory?" The new rule would not affect law enforcement officers, security guards and registered hunters. Voting is compulsory in Brazil.

In December 2003, Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva presented his proposal to change the country’s gun legislation. Lula said a Brazilian person dies every 12 minutes because of gun-related violence. With three per cent of the world’s total population, Brazil currently accounts for eight per cent of all deaths caused by firearms. Only about a third of the 15 million guns in the country are legal.

Brazilians are divided over the actual benefits of the proposed changes. 50.6 per cent of respondents think violence and crime will be reduced after the ban is enacted, while 44.8 per cent disagree.

Polling Data

Do you think the sale of firearms should be banned in Brazil?

Yes
72.7%

No
24.1%



Do you think violence and crime will be reduced if the sale of firearms is prohibited?

Yes
50.6%

No
44.8%



Source: Instituto Sensus
Methodology: Interviews to 2,000 Brazilian adults, conducted from Sept. 6 to Sept. 8, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent


Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:19:50 PM EDT
Fuck them.

Just don't ever ask us to bail you out in an armed conflict
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:25:25 PM EDT
And they will get just what the deserve.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:30:47 PM EDT
Stupid question, I'm sure, but what is up with the 22 % who don't think banning firearms will reduce violence and crime but want to ban them anyway?? Brainwashed liberal sheeple, I suppose. Guns are evil so they should be banned even if they don't cause crime.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:41:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
September 15, 2005
Brazilians Would Vote to Ban Firearms



(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Many adults in Brazil want to amend their gun legislation, according to a poll by Instituto Sensus. 72.7 per cent of respondents think the sale of firearms should be banned in the South American nation.

Brazil currently has one of the laxest gun control laws in the world, as unregistered owners usually pay low fines or simply have their weapons confiscated.

A referendum on a new gun law has been scheduled for Oct. 23. The plebiscite’s question reads: "Should the commerce of guns and ammunition be prohibited in the entire national territory?" The new rule would not affect law enforcement officers, security guards and registered hunters. Voting is compulsory in Brazil.

In December 2003, Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva presented his proposal to change the country’s gun legislation. Lula said a Brazilian person dies every 12 minutes because of gun-related violence. With three per cent of the world’s total population, Brazil currently accounts for eight per cent of all deaths caused by firearms. Only about a third of the 15 million guns in the country are legal.

Brazilians are divided over the actual benefits of the proposed changes. 50.6 per cent of respondents think violence and crime will be reduced after the ban is enacted, while 44.8 per cent disagree.



Here's an idea: outlaw gun-related violence. What, it's already outlawed? Oh, so they will obey the new laws then?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:43:00 PM EDT

Only about a third of the 15 million guns in the country are legal.


Well gee, making them ALL illegal wouldn't really fix that, now would it?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:43:49 PM EDT
They don't have "lax" gun control laws. They have lax punishments for very harsh gun control laws. Big difference. I don't recall the laws exactly, but I believe that John Lott and others have mentioned them.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:47:24 PM EDT
I like it!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 2:52:49 PM EDT
And the march toward global tyranny continues.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 3:09:26 PM EDT
And that is why South America is a shithole....
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 3:11:59 PM EDT
So maybe we should finance a trip for a group buy down there before the shit actually goes down?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 3:14:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 3:15:10 PM EDT by cyclone]
It's Brazil after all............
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 3:16:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leelaw:

Only about a third of the 15 million guns in the country are legal.


Well gee, making them ALL illegal wouldn't really fix that, now would it?




Think Canada or Australia. It estimated 1/2 to 1/3 were neither registered or turned in. Making guns illegal in Brazil will do nothing except make another Colombia.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:55:54 AM EDT
bumping this back up because they are even more stupid now.

these guns are "legally obtained" even tho they were stolen ...

Wish I could get a poll down there ...

What percent of law abiding citizens have guns now
What percent of law abiding citizens will have guns after a a ban
What percent of criminals have guns now
What percent of criminals will have guns after a ban
What percentage best describes the increase in safety for criminals after a ban
What percentage best describes the increase in happiness in criminals after a ban

At least they'll have their police to protect them ....

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RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (Reuters) - Most of the guns used by criminals in Rio de Janeiro were initially bought by law-abiding citizens, according to a study released weeks before a national referendum on whether to ban the sale of firearms.

The findings counter claims by the gun lobby that the illegal arms trade is responsible for most shooting deaths in Brazil's tourist mecca, which has one of the world's highest urban crime rates.

Using Rio government statistics, the study by police and the Institute of Superior Studies for Religion found that 72 percent of all firearms seized between April 1999 and June 2005 were obtained legally and later fell into the hands of criminals. Only 28 percent came from the black market.

"The big news here for the debate on the referendum is that we're talking about guns that belonged to what we call good citizens," said Rubem Cesar Fernandes, a director of Vivo Rio, a nonprofit group that campaigns against violence.

"These are guns that start out legal and end up illegal, confirming that the source for criminals is the legitimate arms market," he added.

The study, released Monday, was likely to add fuel to an already fierce debate around the gun referendum set for October 23. It will be the first time any country has taken a proposed gun ban to the national ballot.

Brazil has the highest number of firearms fatalities in the world, with 36,091 people shot dead last year, according to government figures.

Initial polls suggest that most Brazilians favor a ban. Opponents argue that banning guns will do little to stop criminals while stripping ordinary citizens of their ability to defend themselves.

In an effort to ease violence, the government has tried to persuade citizens to hand over their guns in exchange for money. The so-called disarmament campaign helped cut the number of shooting deaths in Brazil last year by 8 percent, the first drop in 13 years.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 7:59:30 AM EDT
Brazil is risking an outbreak of tragic boating accidents.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:00:10 AM EDT
they are idiots thats why their country is a POS next subject.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:01:22 AM EDT
As an aside: rent the DVD "City of God" and also watch the documentary that's on it too. It's incredible.

Ain't nobody going to be giving up any guns down there.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:08:57 AM EDT
Isn't Democracy grand?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:14:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By leelaw:

Only about a third of the 15 million guns in the country are legal.


Well gee, making them ALL illegal wouldn't really fix that, now would it?



Send the good ones up here!
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:17:10 AM EDT
Let's just hope they don't ban the women
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:17:31 AM EDT
First they ban body hair and now this?

What are they smoking in Brazil???!!?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:20:31 AM EDT

Brazilians would vote to ban all guns


Wow! That's a lot! Wait. How many is a brazilian?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 8:26:59 AM EDT
If that poll can be trusted - it would seem that Brazil is a nation of sheep!
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