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Posted: 11/28/2014 1:51:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 1:52:19 PM EDT by KA3B]
A C-130 Hercules aircraft from the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) being used in support of the Chilean Antarctic program crashed on Thursday during landing at the Chilean Teniente Rodolfo Marsh Martin Air Base.

The Chilean Antarctic research base Eduardo Frei is on King George Island in the South Shetland Islands.

No injuries, reported the FAB in a statement.

The right hand main landing gear reportedly collapsed while landing on runway 29.

The number 4 propeller separated from the aircraft.

The occurrence was around 11 am (local time).



Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:52:58 PM EDT
That'll buff right out
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:53:51 PM EDT
The brown streak is from the aircrew shitting themselves.

Poop thread. Shut it down.

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Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:54:07 PM EDT
That's...probably not good...
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:55:47 PM EDT
In all honesty though it doesn't look too bad. I'm no aircraft mechanic but it looks like it is still airworthy with some work and a new engine.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:56:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 1:57:38 PM EDT by ar154all]
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Originally Posted By grumpycoconut:
The brown streak is from the aircrew shitting themselves.
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Originally Posted By grumpycoconut:
The brown streak is from the aircrew shitting themselves.

No kidding

Originally Posted By grumpycoconut:
Poop thread. Shut it down.

LOL
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:56:47 PM EDT
Pretty shitty place to have to change an engine.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:56:55 PM EDT

It's a Herc...



Jack it up, put the wheels back on, scrounge another prop, fly it home.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:57:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 1:58:06 PM EDT by MotorMouth]
Brazilians always miss the landing strip.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:59:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MotorMouth:
Brazilians always miss the landing strip.
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I chortled.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 2:12:42 PM EDT
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but in all seriousness, that's the worst possible place in the world for this to happen. hope they're all okay
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 2:13:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MotorMouth:
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I rost...
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 4:42:22 PM EDT
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Nominated for post of the year.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:21:27 PM EDT
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Well played good sir
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:31:41 PM EDT
Send the Ole Crew Chief down there, He'll fix it.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:33:05 PM EDT
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That made me laugh.

Membership on me.


Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:33:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By _10mm:
That'll buff right out
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Not right out, but it'll buff out.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:34:18 PM EDT
Oops
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:37:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 5:37:17 PM EDT by cosmo05]
Shit, it still has three engines, put a tire on it and fly it home.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:37:23 PM EDT
RIP C-130 that's probably going to get pushed aside by heavy machinery and left to fade back into the earth.

Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:38:43 PM EDT
I remember reading once of a cargo plane that crash landed in Antarctica and was left in place for a few years. Then the Air Force said they wanted it back. They dug it out, fixed it, and flew it home. It was an amazing story. I am glad that no one was injured on the Herc. the ecowarriors are prolly crying over the spilled oil on the ground.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:50:25 PM EDT
Tuff ole birds.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:51:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Southernman077:
I remember reading once of a cargo plane that crash landed in Antarctica and was left in place for a few years. Then the Air Force said they wanted it back. They dug it out, fixed it, and flew it home. It was an amazing story. I am glad that no one was injured on the Herc. the ecowarriors are prolly crying over the spilled oil on the ground.
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Sounds very similar to:

DC-3 recovery from Antarctica
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:53:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By twotwothree06:


Sounds very similar to:

DC-3 recovery from Antarctica
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Originally Posted By twotwothree06:
Originally Posted By Southernman077:
I remember reading once of a cargo plane that crash landed in Antarctica and was left in place for a few years. Then the Air Force said they wanted it back. They dug it out, fixed it, and flew it home. It was an amazing story. I am glad that no one was injured on the Herc. the ecowarriors are prolly crying over the spilled oil on the ground.


Sounds very similar to:

DC-3 recovery from Antarctica

Here's the one he was talking about.

http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/history/321/321back.html
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:54:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ironhandjohn:

It's a Herc...



Jack it up, put the wheels back on, scrounge another prop, fly it home.
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pfft tear off the #1 and drive it on 2


and "landing strip" comment
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:57:12 PM EDT
Final resting place...
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 5:58:24 PM EDT
Hey you aviation guys, is that fixable?
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:02:22 PM EDT
Did Spain file salvage claim on it yet?
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:11:04 PM EDT
What the fuck do Brazilians need to "research" in Antarctica?
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:12:11 PM EDT
That is one tough airplane, it should be just fine.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:17:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lufthansa:
RIP C-130 that's probably going to get pushed aside by heavy machinery and left to fade back into the earth.

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Yea, not so much.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:19:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
What the fuck do Brazilians need to "research" in Antarctica?
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You don't bother to read, do you.

Let me help you out: A C-130 Hercules aircraft from the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) being used in support of the Chilean Antarctic program...
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:20:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By phb1gt:
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Without more knowing details, probably. The huge obstacle is getting it fixed where it currently lays. I'd imagine there aren't a ton of resources there and I'd expect the cost of fixing it on site would far outweigh the cost of getting a used one from somewhere else.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:22:37 PM EDT
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Everything is fixable. The engine is relatively easy as they are designed to be changed quickly (QEC). The wing and wheel well is where the major problems could be. The outer wing could be swapped fairly easily as long as the joint is fine, and they have a crane. The center wing box would be the big issue if damaged. It's still fixable but not easily. From the little info I have at minimum it seems like an engine and tire/strut change, which could be done in the field, although I would hate to do it there. If it's more than an engine and tire/strut change then you might have to get engineers involved to figure out a ferry flight repair to get it to a depot facility. I can recommend one if they want.

ETA: Looking at the picture again the RH aileron and wing tip might require changing also. They might be serviceable but definitely need inspecting.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:29:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 6:36:39 PM EDT by USCG_CPO]
In the early 90's a USCG C-130 from Kodiak lost a prop in flight, cut through part of the fuselage.
They were over water at the time and quickly departed the area to go land.
Some years later a fisherman caught the prop in his nets and returned it to us



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They might make it on the Brazillionth try.


Or. The Brazillionth time is a charm.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:35:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:36:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By phb1gt:
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Yes, very fixable.

Strut failure, prop strike into the snow.
Fixed and flown out in 21 days.


JATO bottle broke free, struck # 2 engine on take-off, take-off aborted, propeller went into the wing and ripped open the fuel tank, fire burned wing off.
Fixed and flown out in 2 months the year after the mishap.



Nose landing gear collapsed in landing.
Aircraft fixed in 30 days and then flown the ANZ, Christchurch, NZ for further repairs, then flown to MCAS Cherry Point for rework.


Aircraft fell into a crevasse after breaking through an ice bridge.
Towed out, repaired and flown out in 21 days.



Aircraft fell into a crevasse after breaking through an ice bridge.
Towed out, repaired and flown out in 21 days.


Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:36:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:

Here's the one he was talking about.

http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/history/321/321back.html
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Originally Posted By twotwothree06:
Originally Posted By Southernman077:
I remember reading once of a cargo plane that crash landed in Antarctica and was left in place for a few years. Then the Air Force said they wanted it back. They dug it out, fixed it, and flew it home. It was an amazing story. I am glad that no one was injured on the Herc. the ecowarriors are prolly crying over the spilled oil on the ground.


Sounds very similar to:

DC-3 recovery from Antarctica

Here's the one he was talking about.

http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/history/321/321back.html

The second one is the one I was talking about. I apologize to the US Navy for crediting the USAF.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:39:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KA3B:

Yes, very fixable.

http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd07prop4.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd07prop1.jpg

Strut failure, prop strike into the snow.
Fixed and flown out in 21 days.


http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319j.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319o.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319n.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319e.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/319domec.jpg
JATO bottle broke free, struck # 2 engine on take-off, take-off aborted, propeller went into the wing and ripped open the fuel tank, fire burned wing off.
Fixed and flown out in 2 months the year after the mishap.


http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/vxeantxx1b.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/vxeantxx1c.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/vxeantxx1g.jpg
Nose landing gear collapsed in landing.
Aircraft fixed in 30 days and then flown the ANZ, Christchurch, NZ for further repairs, then flown to MCAS Cherry Point for rework.


http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319b.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd02eng3.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd02eng1.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319c.jpg

Aircraft fell into a crevasse after breaking through an ice bridge.
Towed out, repaired and flown out in 21 days.


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Originally Posted By phb1gt:
Hey you aviation guys, is that fixable?

Yes, very fixable.

http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd07prop4.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd07prop1.jpg

Strut failure, prop strike into the snow.
Fixed and flown out in 21 days.


http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319j.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319o.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319n.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319e.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/319domec.jpg
JATO bottle broke free, struck # 2 engine on take-off, take-off aborted, propeller went into the wing and ripped open the fuel tank, fire burned wing off.
Fixed and flown out in 2 months the year after the mishap.


http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/vxeantxx1b.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/vxeantxx1c.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/vxeantxx1g.jpg
Nose landing gear collapsed in landing.
Aircraft fixed in 30 days and then flown the ANZ, Christchurch, NZ for further repairs, then flown to MCAS Cherry Point for rework.


http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319b.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd02eng3.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/xd02eng1.jpg
http://www.vaq34.com/vxe6/jd319c.jpg

Aircraft fell into a crevasse after breaking through an ice bridge.
Towed out, repaired and flown out in 21 days.





My father was on a 130 that lost parts of one engine on the ice cap. They flew it out a week later after inspecting it and capping the lines and installing a cone on the nacelle of the broken engine.

130's losing parts on the ice is not a new thing.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:41:02 PM EDT
A Brazilian C130?

Is Argentina subcontracting out their commie drops?
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:41:37 PM EDT
Wax 'er down, slap on some RATO bottles, and let 'er rip.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:44:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/28/2014 6:49:03 PM EDT
If they can't just jack it up and manually drop the landing gear it will be contracted out to a repair company who will fix what it on site and fly it back to a rework facility.

My guess is the landing gear will be repaired, a new engine will be slapped on, the skin will be patched, and it will be flown home for permanent repairs.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 7:52:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By phb1gt:
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Looks like fairly minor damage.


But as to your question... Anything in Aviation can be "fixed," it just depends on how much money you want to set on fire to do it. Whole airplanes have been "rebuilt" from just a manufacturer's data plate.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 8:03:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ironhandjohn:

It's a Herc...



Jack it up, put the wheels back on, scrounge another prop, fly it home.
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Hell, you probably wouldn't need the fourth engine if you take off empty.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 8:07:42 PM EDT
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Given the right budget, every thing is fixable. It'll need airbags/jacks to get it up, new struts on the right side at minimum, new #4 engine (complete assembly, that prop didn't just "separate" and the gearbox and engine are scrap), some sheet metal repair on the right wing and it'll fly.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 8:08:30 PM EDT
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The landing gear and engine will be the easiest things to fix. I'd be more concerned about the curled-up right wingtip. They could fly home on three engines with the gear chained into the down and locked position if they had to. All they need is enough fuel to get home on with the extra drag of the gear being down and enough runway to take off of with just three engines.

But the wing damage means they sit there until repairs can be made.
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