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Posted: 1/20/2013 5:58:19 PM EDT
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Call Federal.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:00:02 PM EDT
[#2]
Made in Mexico?
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:02:38 PM EDT
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It's Federal. Therefore the lethality or reliability could sway from one day to the next.
Eta: my post is a joke. They make good ammo. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:03:10 PM EDT
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Because it is FMJ. They are assuming LEOs can read
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:04:28 PM EDT
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Because it is FMJ. They are assuming LEOs can read THIS ! |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:05:04 PM EDT
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LEO's don't carry FMJ and its probably not up to the reliability standards needed
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:05:48 PM EDT
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You got the crappy civilian version..
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:07:00 PM EDT
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Don't they only use HP?
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:11:30 PM EDT
[#9]
cops use talon bullets
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:12:39 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:13:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. 15 isn't bad |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:14:28 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. Funny how folks got by for a long time with 6 rounds of .45 and shot alot of folks with em. Then the hi cap 7 rounders came out.... I'm happy enough with 8 rounds in my 3" micro 9 in my govt models and 11-15 in my M&P. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:15:41 PM EDT
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This is American Eagle, not Champion, correct?
It probably failed to meet certain reliability criteria. Does the standard 50 round box have the same warning? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:16:45 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. 15 isn't bad I love my Para SF45 with two spare mags!!!! As for the OP, it could be that the ammo might not meet reliability standards, or consistent velocity standards, or just because it's a FMJ round. -SleeperShooter ETA: Not mine, but just like it... 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:18:04 PM EDT
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Not dog certified.
American Poodle ammo is good to go. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:18:57 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. 15 isn't bad Double stacks work pretty well or 12 rounders in HK's or the FN FNP with 15. I love the .45 round. I like the 9, but .45 rules. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:21:27 PM EDT
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Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! Post pic or its 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:21:36 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. Funny how folks got by for a long time with 6 rounds of .45 and shot alot of folks with em. Then the hi cap 7 rounders came out.... I'm happy enough with 8 rounds in my 3" micro 9 in my govt models and 11-15 in my M&P. Fuck, I still feel inadequate with 8 rounds in my Sig P220. 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:22:06 PM EDT
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So, does this mean cops are using cop killer bullets now? I'm so confused.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:22:56 PM EDT
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too cheap?
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:23:06 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. Funny how folks got by for a long time with 6 rounds of .45 and shot alot of folks with em. Then the hi cap 7 rounders came out.... I'm happy enough with 8 rounds in my 3" micro 9 in my govt models and 11-15 in my M&P. Fuck, I still feel inadequate with 8 rounds in my Sig P220.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:26:30 PM EDT
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Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! factory seconds did not meet quality control specs for LE use |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:33:19 PM EDT
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It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. Funny how folks got by for a long time with 6 rounds of .45 and shot alot of folks with em. Then the hi cap 7 rounders came out.... I'm happy enough with 8 rounds in my 3" micro 9 in my govt models and 11-15 in my M&P. Fuck, I still feel inadequate with 8 rounds in my Sig P220.
You do know they make 8 round P220 mags. When I carry my P220 it's got an 8 round mag and 1 up the pipe. Hit what you shoot at. 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:35:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! factory seconds did not meet quality control specs for LE use It would be marked on the box 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:36:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Because it is FMJ. They are assuming LEOs can read THIS ! |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:37:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's too bad you can't have 19 rounds of .45 in a reasonably sized handgun. 15 isn't bad I love my Para SF45 with two spare mags!!!! As for the OP, it could be that the ammo might not meet reliability standards, or consistent velocity standards, or just because it's a FMJ round. -SleeperShooter ETA: Not mine, but just like it... http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x66/biffjr99/IMG_3401.jpg Mine. Because I shoot with both hands.  |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:38:14 PM EDT
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NYPD uses FMJ bullets
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:42:06 PM EDT
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Okay lets keep sidetracking this one....
How bout 17 rounds of .45 on tap? 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:43:00 PM EDT
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NYPD uses FMJ bullets Doesn't matter what they use they still can't hit their targets.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:48:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! Post pic or its I just checked a box I have, and it does say that. (Don't have a OPSEC capable camera handy.) It also states "DO NOT USE IN FIREARMS WITH PORTED BARRELS OR PORTED RECOIL COMPENSATORS." |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:54:35 PM EDT
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I have a couple boxes of Speer Gold Dots that say the same thing.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:00:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Could be e\xcessive muzzle flash for night use.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:40:50 PM EDT
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They are using small pistol primers in the Federal 45acp 230 gr FMJ.
Saw it today in Walmart.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:54:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: They are using small pistol primers in the Federal 45acp 230 gr FMJ. Saw it today in Walmart. Yeah, anyone who reloads needs to sort those into a separate pile. I've shot around 700 rounds of the Federal small primer 45ACP 230gn FMJ, and it's always functioned. But I consider it a target round. I haven't reloaded any of it yet, but everything I've heard is that it will function fine with standard small pistol primers. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:57:02 PM EDT
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Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! Post pic or its
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:00:30 PM EDT
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Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! Post pic or its http://pbckt.com/pI.U4Syhl Lemme help you with that.... 
-SleeperShooter |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:04:13 PM EDT
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Tanks
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:06:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have a couple boxes of Speer Gold Dots that say the same thing. Plated bullets can get ripped on compensator cuts. The copper jacket is very thin and dead soft. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:07:10 PM EDT
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NYPD uses FMJ bullets Which is why the Gold Dot 124gr +P JHP is known as the "NYPD Load," right? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:10:02 PM EDT
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NYPD uses FMJ bullets Uhhmm no. They use Speer gold dots. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 10:40:40 PM EDT
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Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! Post pic or its I just checked a box I have, and it does say that. (Don't have a OPSEC capable camera handy.) It also states "DO NOT USE IN FIREARMS WITH PORTED BARRELS OR PORTED RECOIL COMPENSATORS." If you're worried about your smartphone camera tagging your pics, just convert the JPEG file to a .BMP file in MS Paint, save it, then convert the bitmap back to a .JPG. Bitmap files aren't set up to store EXIF data, so saving it as one dumps it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 10:46:04 PM EDT
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It's because they have been tested and perform poorly against fur covered targets.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 5:44:02 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Just picked up a 100rnd bulk pk of Federal 230gr FMJ .45 ACP. On the back cover it says "Not For Law Enforcement Use"! Why is that warning there? Is Federal basically saying "Don't trust Your Life On This Ammo"? Just think it is a wierd statement , and question why a company would acknowledge any difference! you win.. 
i was wrong. but what are the odds to tun across a warning like that. |
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