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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:53:55 AM EDT
Was in VA for the weekend,  and I hit a local liquor store and the cashier proceeds to copy all my info into the PC.  


Is this SOP?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 8:59:59 AM EDT
[#1]
I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.

ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:02:00 AM EDT
[#2]
Never happened to me, but maybe it's something they do for non-VA residents?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:02:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.

ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?


Nothing.   In NJ they just look at the ID for proof of age. They don't copy the info.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:04:22 AM EDT
[#4]
That'd weird me out.  Here in KS they just look at my ID.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:05:14 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.



ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?


Yep, they always scan the back of mine.



 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:07:03 AM EDT
[#6]
I've bought booze in three different states: Oklahoma, Texas, and Arizona.  All of the cashiers that have asked for i.d. have only looked for a birthdate and that was it.  My DL has never left my wallet/hand.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:08:10 AM EDT
[#7]
That's the new ID theft scam.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:09:09 AM EDT
[#8]
Never happened to me. Go there often....
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:10:36 AM EDT
[#9]
Did they ask for your permission to save your info into their database system?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:11:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.

ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?


Nothing.   In NJ they just look at the ID for proof of age. They don't copy the info.


Aren't liquor sales private in NJ?  VA is state run.

ETA:  Although ol' Guvner Bobby was supposed to fix that...I wonder where that all wound up?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:11:50 AM EDT
[#11]
I visited family in Indiana a couple months ago and that is the law there.If you buy beer or wine in a grocery/convenience store you MUST show I.D..I THINK they only copy the DOB but not sure of that.
My Dad,who drinks a couple beers a MONTH,had to show his driver's license to buy a 6 pack in Walmart.....he's 86 years old.
This law evidently does not apply in liquor stores or taverns.....where you MIGHT be required to show I.D.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:13:43 AM EDT
[#12]
What do the illegal shit bags do, or are they exempted from this also? Turning over your name, address, birth date and DL number/SS number seems a little extreme for buying booze.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:13:47 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Did they ask for your permission to save your info into their database system?


No.  I am not 100% if it even was saved.  I just saw the info on the screen.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:14:42 AM EDT
[#14]
Th same place around here that scans IDs also asks for your address to join their getting drunk club.  I don't think they really keep the info.  I think its just a company policy put in place to thwart McLovin's with fake IDs.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:16:17 AM EDT
[#15]
CYA for the store
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:17:09 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.

ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?


Nothing.   In NJ they just look at the ID for proof of age. They don't copy the info.


Aren't liquor sales private in NJ?  VA is state run.

ETA:  Although ol' Guvner Bobby was supposed to fix that...I wonder where that all wound up?


Not quite sure what you mean by "state run"  .  Local towns authorize liquor licenses, and stores buy them to operate.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:19:40 AM EDT
[#17]
Not quite sure what you mean by "state run" . Local towns authorize liquor licenses, and stores buy them to operate.

No, here in VA all liquors stores are OWNED and RUN by the state government.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:21:32 AM EDT
[#18]
Never had that issue.  Hell I must look so old they don't even card me anymore.  

How did you pay?  Not that it should matter but did you pay with a check by chance?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:22:18 AM EDT
[#19]
Whenever I buy beer at a gas station in Greenville, VA, they always ask me for my birthday and write it down. I guess it's their way of proving that they checked ID.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:24:08 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Not quite sure what you mean by "state run" . Local towns authorize liquor licenses, and stores buy them to operate.

No, here in VA all liquors stores are OWNED and RUN by the state government.

Yes.
And they have scanned the barcode on the back of my DL but not every time.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:25:50 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Not quite sure what you mean by "state run" . Local towns authorize liquor licenses, and stores buy them to operate.

No, here in VA all liquors stores are OWNED and RUN by the state government.


Same in Montana.........one thing I find strange is that they don't sell beer.......
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:25:51 AM EDT
[#22]
I don't get carded. I get "Hi Surveyor3."
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:26:29 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I don't get carded. I get "Hi Surveyor3."


Damn...go that often??
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:28:18 AM EDT
[#24]
Probably some sort of system that can tell if the DL number and the birthdate match up.  Good way to get rid of people using fake IDs to buy alcohol.   Good idea if it is the way I explained it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:28:26 AM EDT
[#25]
This is why I never surrender my ID or my credit card. They can see it in front of them to verify my identity and age, but they stay in my hands.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:28:57 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Never had that issue.  Hell I must look so old they don't even card me anymore.  

How did you pay?  Not that it should matter but did you pay with a check by chance?


Cash.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:29:17 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
I visited family in Indiana a couple months ago and that is the law there.If you buy beer or wine in a grocery/convenience store you MUST show I.D..I THINK they only copy the DOB but not sure of that.
My Dad,who drinks a couple beers a MONTH,had to show his driver's license to buy a 6 pack in Walmart.....he's 86 years old.
This law evidently does not apply in liquor stores or taverns.....where you MIGHT be required to show I.D.


It is law here to show your ID if you want to purchase any liquor, but they do not copy anything down.  They just check your date of birth.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:30:05 AM EDT
[#28]

Oh hell no.  I would've asked for all info to be deleted and left.

Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:30:08 AM EDT
[#29]
I spent 26 years of my life in Virginia.

I've been here in Colorado now for about 8 months, and I'm still getting used to buying liquor at places that don't have this above the door:



I'm still getting used to seeing liquor stores the size of Costco, and seeing Costco stores that sell liquor!

It's a brave, brave new world...

_MaH
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:30:26 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.

ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?


Nothing.   In NJ they just look at the ID for proof of age. They don't copy the info.


Aren't liquor sales private in NJ?  VA is state run.

ETA:  Although ol' Guvner Bobby was supposed to fix that...I wonder where that all wound up?


Not quite sure what you mean by "state run"  .  Local towns authorize liquor licenses, and stores buy them to operate.


in NJ, liquor stores are private establishments that apply for a license to sell liquor. they can sell liquor, beer, and wine.

in PA/VA, the state owns and runs the liquor stores. in PA, i can't buy beer at a "state store" or as they call them now a "wine and spirits". beer is either purchased from a distributor in bulk or from a bar/restaurant as "carry out". you are limited to like a 12-pack.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:30:29 AM EDT
[#31]
They do that kind of thing in my state too! It's really bad here. Terrible weather, really restrictive gun laws, dirty air, too many people. You wouldn't want to live here.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:34:35 AM EDT
[#32]
I've seen that before, but around me I rarely get asked for ID, if ever.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:39:17 AM EDT
[#33]
That's not as uncomfortable as some shady looking goon at the door of some afterhours bar doing it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:40:43 AM EDT
[#34]

Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:41:54 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
I imagine.  When I buy booze they scan the back of my DL, which I assume contains all the same info as the front.

ETA:  What you 'fraid of, McLovin?


are you fucking kidding?
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:52:05 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Did they ask for your permission to save your info into their database system?


No.  I am not 100% if it even was saved.  I just saw the info on the screen.


It might be some kind of insta-check system Vood, name, dob, DL, gets checked against the dmv reecord to see if the id is false or not

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Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:56:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I don't get carded. I get "Hi Surveyor3."


Yeah, when I got "nah, I don't need to see your ID, I recognize you" that's when I figured it was time to cut down
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 9:57:21 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
in NJ, liquor stores are private establishments that apply for a license to sell liquor. they can sell liquor, beer, and wine.

in PA/VA, the state owns and runs the liquor stores. in PA, i can't buy beer at a "state store" or as they call them now a "wine and spirits". beer is either purchased from a distributor in bulk or from a bar/restaurant as "carry out". you are limited to like a 12-pack.


THAT sucks.  I've never seen beer for sale at a liquor store around here, but I can buy as much as I can cram into my 4Runner at the grocery store.  I've seen people actually do that at Longwood, four people with two shopping carts each overflowing with cases of cheap shitty beer and loading it all into one suffering Exploder.

I don't know if we can technically buy "carry out" beer at the bar...I used to do it when I was in a band, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't legal.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:04:21 AM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I don't get carded. I get "Hi Surveyor3."
Damn...go that often??


LOL  There's a nice liquor chain in Houston called Specs, if you join their mailing list you get a member card where you get discounts, rack up points for something or another.



When the cashier scans your card your name pops up on their screen.  Went with a friend once and the cashier said "Hi Mr. MACD, how are you today?"



friend: "WTF, they know you by name?"



CSB



 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:13:51 AM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:13:59 AM EDT
[#41]
I'm sure you will find some additional junk mail coming in the mail now.

B.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:17:51 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
This is why I never surrender my ID or my credit card. They can see it in front of them to verify my identity and age, but they stay in my hands.


+1

if they need to scan my DL , I wont buy anything

and go someplace else that doesnt need to copy the info into the data base
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:18:44 AM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:


I spent 26 years of my life in Virginia.



I've been here in Colorado now for about 8 months, and I'm still getting used to buying liquor at places that don't have this above the door:



http://www.acc-tv.com/images/wset/news/abc_alcohol.jpg



I'm still getting used to seeing liquor stores the size of Costco, and seeing Costco stores that sell liquor!



It's a brave, brave new world...



_MaH


Take a trip to California.  Should be a real shocker.



 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:20:07 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Take a trip to California.
 


No thank you.

_MaH
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:28:12 AM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Take a trip to California.

 




No thank you.



_MaH


Nevada is even better.  But to do either, you have to step over Utah.



But for the absolute f-up in alcohol laws, NOTHING beats Texas where governments down to the precinct can make laws.  The little unincorporated town of Fort Davis (Davis Mountains, north of Big Bend) is like this.  On the north side of town by the National Historic Park, stores are free to sell.  But down by the court house on the south end of main drive, alcohol is only sold by a private club.  This precinct covers the Hotel Limpia, complete with a bar.  But if you are a guest of the Limpia, you have automatic membership in the club.  Outsiders can join the club to drink, something like $5 for a month membership.
 
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:28:50 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Never had that issue.  Hell I must look so old they don't even card me anymore.  

How did you pay?  Not that it should matter but did you pay with a check by chance?


same here.. must be the grey hair and grey beard
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:31:04 AM EDT
[#47]
NC is state run as well "ABC" = Alcohol Beverage Control.  No scan that I know of.
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:34:05 AM EDT
[#48]
As I recall VA is pretty much a blue state. Wonder if they require a DL or ID to vote too or would that violate your civil rights?  
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:50:14 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
As I recall VA is pretty much a blue state. Wonder if they require a DL or ID to vote too or would that violate your civil rights?  




You recall rather incorrectly, sir.

At best, it's becoming purple because of the second wave of carpet-bagging Yankee morons who flee the failed policies of their homeland to beautiful Virginia, yet begin voting to implement the same failed policies there all over again.

Virginia has had Democrats run the state in its past that make many of today's Republicans look like communists.

No sir, Virginia's problem isn't Democrats –– it's the god damn Yankees.

_MaH
Link Posted: 7/21/2010 10:52:08 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
As I recall VA is pretty much a blue state. Wonder if they require a DL or ID to vote too or would that violate your civil rights?  




You recall rather incorrectly, sir.

At best, it's becoming purple because of the second wave of carpet-bagging Yankee morons who flee the failed policies of their homeland to beautiful Virginia, yet begin voting to implement the same failed policies there all over again.

Virginia has had Democrats run the state in its past that make many of today's Republicans look like communists.

No sir, Virginia's problem isn't Democrats –– it's the god damn Yankees.

_MaH



Couldn't have said it better myself.
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