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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:26:57 PM EDT
Border agents in armoured cars
Reuters
correspondents in Arizona
October 11, 2005
www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16881766-1702,00.html
US law enforcement officers have started patrolling a remote stretch of the Arizona-Mexico border in armoured cars after agents were shot at, pelted with rocks and rammed by Mexican smugglers in a surge of violence, authorities said.

The US Border Patrol and the sheriff's department in Yuma county, on the border with Mexico in western Arizona, bought two second-hand armoured personnel carriers in recent weeks following a record 167 assaults by Mexican drug and human traffickers in the first seven months of the year.
Smugglers fired on sheriff's deputies and agents six times during the period and pelted them with rocks on 104 occasions.

In August, stone-hurling Mexican smugglers downed a US Customs and Border Protection A-Star helicopter.

"Violent attacks have increased sharply in recent months, so we decided to acquire an armoured vehicle so as to better protect our agents," a US Border Patrol spokesman said.

He said the Yuma sector Border Patrol acquired a 3855 kg armoured car from the Baltimore Police Department, and plan to use it for patrols in the remote desert region as soon as it has been refitted.

A spokesman for the Yuma County Sheriff's department said deputies began patrolling last week in an 8,165kg, British-made armoured car powered by a Rolls-Royce engine, which they bought second-hand.
Arizona has become a major thoroughfare for migrant traffickers and marijuana smugglers in recent years following a clamp down in security in border cities in California and Texas.

Last year, Arizona state accounted for around half the 1.2 million undocumented migrants caught crossing into the United States from Mexico
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:28:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:34:15 PM EDT
Need to start shooting
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:34:44 PM EDT
Maybe we should just close it?
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:37:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
If the BP needs armored cars it is time to use the military to patrol our border and do what they are trained to do.

Kill people and break things.




Originally Posted By alaman:
Need to start shooting




Originally Posted By Bad_Aim:
Maybe we should just close it?



+3
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:37:54 PM EDT

following a record 167 assaults by Mexican drug and human traffickers in the first seven months of the year.
Smugglers fired on sheriff's deputies and agents six times during the period and pelted them with rocks on 104 occasions.



WTF aren't the BP shooting each mofo that tries that shit?


In August, stone-hurling Mexican smugglers downed a US Customs and Border Protection A-Star helicopter.


Where's that minigun video at?
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:45:11 PM EDT
I wonder if they feel like they don't have to respect our laws for some reason?
O'Reilly just did a story on this, Citizens arrest AND criminal records are open to the public
BUT, illegals have a right to privacy, you can get anyones criminal record UNLESS they are illegal

Federal judge says illegal aliens’ privacy trumps public’s right to know
Oct 1, 2005
by Mark Tapscott
Townhall.com
www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/marktapscott/2005/10/01/158888.html
Email to a friend Print this page Text size: A A A federal District Court Judge has ruled that the privacy rights of illegal aliens convicted of heinous crimes in this country are more important than the public’s right to know if the government is properly enforcing a key immigration law.

Amazing as the ruling itself may be, what is even more stunning is the fact that U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia Judge Richard J. Leon was affirming the Bush administration’s position in the case. President Bush nominated Leon in 2001 and the Senate confirmed him in February 2002.

 Leon’s Sept. 27 ruling was in response to an appeal by Cox Newspapers Washington Bureau of the Justice Department’s refusal to make public information and data about thousands of aliens convicted of serious crimes in virtually every state.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials are required by federal law to escort these criminals out of the country as soon as they are released from jail, but a 2002 investigation by Cox found hundreds who were released from Georgia jails but not deported.

Despite having been convicted of crimes like murder, rape and armed robbery, the aliens who served time in Georgia jails were simply let go, free to roam the country and possibly commit more crimes.

Cox reporters Eliot Jaspin and Julia Malone knew the federal government reimburses local and state governments for much of their expenses in jailing convicted illegal aliens, so the journalists filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Justice Department, seeking names and other information about the released criminals. Justice refused, claiming release would violate the convicted aliens’ privacy rights.

Cox appealed in 2003 because Jaspin and Malone believed, based on what they found in Georgia and the amount of money spent every year by Washington reimbursing lower level governments, that there could easily be thousands of cases across the country like that of convicted pedophile Miguel Angel Gordoba, who served a four-year sentence for molesting a 2-year-old girl in Alma, Ga., then disappeared following his release.

There are also concerns that there could be sleeper-cell terrorists among those released who came here in recent years and were subsequently convicted of crimes as they awaited orders to carry out their deadly plans.

Cox argued in its appeal, according to Judge Leon, that disclosure of the information would “… help determine whether governmental agencies are effectively communicating with each other in the management of the incarceration and removal of criminal aliens," and that "the public benefit of government oversight in this instance outweighs the privacy interests …” of the convicted aliens.

Leon's response? "I disagree." He held that “these privacy interests, and the privacy intrusion associated with disclosing this information clearly outweighs the public disclosure of this information."

Leon further argued that that criminal aliens have "a substantial personal privacy interest" in their FBI case numbers and that interest also outweighs the public's interest in being able to assess the performance of government officials required by the law to meet criminal aliens when released from jail to escort them out of the country.

This decision defies logic and common sense. How can somebody who is not even a U.S. citizen have rights that outweigh the most fundamental right of every American to know if the government is enforcing the law properly?  Criminal records are public documents in every state. Many states publish the names and addresses of sex offenders. But facts about murderers, rapists and thieves who aren’t citizens can’t be published?

As unbelievable as Leon’s decision is – and I pray he is reversed on appeal - it would never have been delivered if the Justice Department had not given Cox so much unnecessary difficulty on its FOIA request in the first place.

Unfortunately, this case is too typical of the experience journalists too often have in seeking official documents, data and other government records that ought to be available under the FOIA. Virtually all of the approximately 3-4 million FOIAs sent to the government every year are handled only by career bureaucrats,  not by political appointees of elected officials like Bush.

So nobody should be surprised that career bureaucrats at the Justice Department aren’t eager to release documents that will embarrass career bureaucrats in the immigration agency who failed to escort those criminal aliens out of our country.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:48:45 PM EDT
I said in a recent thread that i didn`t want to shoot them for just coming over. But an assault on a BP agent should end with a dead sumbitch!
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:53:01 PM EDT
Just make it legal to use illegal border crossers as target practice. You'll get a thousand rednecks with rifles sitting on the border and drinking beer before the day is over.
Link Posted: 10/10/2005 6:55:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IronSamVane:
I said in a recent thread that i didn`t want to shoot them for just coming over. But an assault on a BP agent should end with a dead sumbitch!



If they are caught they are either released INSIDE the US or deported to try again
that is like giving a convicted rapist a spanking and expecting that to make him stop

Until the Military closes the border they will continue to come and we will continue
to throw away our tax dollars paying for them to be imprisoned, on welfare and all
the other ways they drain our countrys resources, lower our wages and commit crimes
Link Posted: 10/11/2005 2:05:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:

Originally Posted By IronSamVane:
I said in a recent thread that i didn`t want to shoot them for just coming over. But an assault on a BP agent should end with a dead sumbitch!



If they are caught they are either released INSIDE the US or deported to try again
that is like giving a convicted rapist a spanking and expecting that to make him stop

Until the Military closes the border they will continue to come and we will continue
to throw away our tax dollars paying for them to be imprisoned, on welfare and all
the other ways they drain our countrys resources, lower our wages and commit crimes



Yup.
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