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Posted: 1/16/2011 1:09:29 PM EDT
I just read Point Of Impact. Much better than the movie.
Has anyone read any of the Bob Lee Swagger novels ?
Are they as good as the first one ?
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:12:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:16:40 PM EDT
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skip the one where he goes to japan, but the others aren't a bad read
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:19:05 PM EDT
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The movie was just complete, utter shit compared to the book.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:20:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Big Stephen Hunter fan.  Starting with Point Of Impact they are all good, with the exception of the Samurai one mentioned earlier.

Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:21:22 PM EDT
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I like Steven Hunter's books. Bob Lee Swagger is badass. Hunter sometimes makes an error in his writing about guns, but the books are otherwise so enjoyable that I give him a pass. One of my current favorite writers.

ETA:  I even enjoyed the Samurai book that a couple of others didn't like. It was not without merit.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:22:05 PM EDT
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Big Stephen Hunter fan.  Starting with Point Of Impact they are all good, with the exception of the Samurai one mentioned earlier.



+1 on this, POI is the best. The Earl Swagger books are pretty good as well.

Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:23:51 PM EDT
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I have enjoyed all of them so far.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:24:15 PM EDT
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Big Stephen Hunter fan.  Starting with Point Of Impact they are all good, with the exception of the Samurai one mentioned earlier.



+1 on this, POI is the best. The Earl Swagger books are pretty good as well.



This.  Earl was a badass.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:27:18 PM EDT
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Big Stephen Hunter fan. Starting with Point Of Impact they are all good, with the exception of the Samurai one mentioned earlier.







+1 on this, POI is the best. The Earl Swagger books are pretty good as well.







This. Earl was a badass.


OP, you have to read Pale Horse Coming.  

Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:29:44 PM EDT
[#10]
I would suggest "dirty white boys" as well

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Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:30:54 PM EDT
[#11]
Excellent book. Currently reading the samurai one. Not as good as the others but I'm such a fan I'll read them all

Luis
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:33:53 PM EDT
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Vociferously reading them all, after like the OP I started with POI.

No dissapoint.

Master Sniper - WWII awesome

Dirty White Boys - LEO vs. arch criminal awesome

Time to Hunt - Mebbe the best one yet - Vietnam awesome

Night of Thunder - NASCAR background - Inbred methbilly awesome

NEW - Dead Zero - Afganistan setting - Damned good so far.

Non-Fiction  American Gunfight - True story of assassination attempt on H. Truman.   Informative, not very interesting.

Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:41:52 PM EDT
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Vociferously reading them all, after like the OP I started with POI.

No dissapoint.

Master Sniper - WWII awesome

Dirty White Boys - LEO vs. arch criminal awesome

Time to Hunt - Mebbe the best one yet - Vietnam awesome

Night of Thunder - NASCAR background - Inbred methbilly awesome

NEW - Dead Zero - Afganistan setting - Damned good so far.

Non-Fiction  American Gunfight - True story of assassination attempt on H. Truman.   Informative, not very interesting.



Does that mean you're vehemently reading them aloud?

Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:44:49 PM EDT
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The ones about his Dad are pretty dern good reading.

"Dirty White Boys" is good, too.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 1:47:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2011 2:05:15 PM EDT
[#16]
I like "Hot Springs", "Havana", and "Tapestry of Spies".
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 2:27:36 PM EDT
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I read "I,Sniper". I think it's the newest one of the series.  Good enough story but I was often left laughing at Hunters' lack of originality with his characters. IE: Joan Flanders A beautiful actress who protests the Vietnam war becomes the center of controversy, marries a billionaire( whose first two initials are T T) and does exercise videos. Or, a legendary Vietnam era sniper named Carl Hitchcock. Not a big deal, I just thought it was funny.  I'll still read the other books when I get through the stack I currently have in front of me.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 2:37:26 PM EDT
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"A Time to Hunt" is my favorite so far. I enjoyed "Master Sniper" as well.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 2:46:03 PM EDT
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I read "I,Sniper". I think it's the newest one of the series.  Good enough story but I was often left laughing at Hunters' lack of originality with his characters. IE: Joan Flanders A beautiful actress who protests the Vietnam war becomes the center of controversy, marries a billionaire( whose first two initials are T T) and does exercise videos. Or, a legendary Vietnam era sniper named Carl Hitchcock. Not a big deal, I just thought it was funny.  I'll still read the other books when I get through the stack I currently have in front of me.


I believe that is done intentionally so that you will recognize the person and he won't get sued...

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Link Posted: 1/16/2011 2:56:28 PM EDT
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The movie was just complete, utter shit compared to the book.

Yeah it was a generic action film. It didn't work because Walhberg was in no way, shape, or form, Bobby Lee. The books are appealing mostly because Bobby Lee and his father are decent, tough good old boys.  The plots themselves vary from sometimes very good to mostly okay to sometimes terrible.    

I do think Hunter has to figure something new out before Bobby Lee is shooting at people from his wheelchair.  I know some pretty spry Vietnam vets, but eventually Al Queda is going to have to blow Bobby Lee up so his bastard son he never knew he had, Cleetus the Marine sniper, can avenge his Pappy's death for another 10 books.


He introduces a new "leading character" in the latest novel. I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read it yet but it's pretty cool.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:02:51 PM EDT
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Is it the second book (I forgot the title) that has Bob Lee Swagger's Dad as a cop?
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:09:44 PM EDT
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I read "I,Sniper". I think it's the newest one of the series. Good enough story but I was often left laughing at Hunters' lack of originality with his characters. IE: Joan Flanders A beautiful actress who protests the Vietnam war becomes the center of controversy, marries a billionaire( whose first two initials are T T) and does exercise videos. Or, a legendary Vietnam era sniper named Carl Hitchcock. Not a big deal, I just thought it was funny.  I'll still read the other books when I get through the stack I currently have in front of me.


No, there is a new one out; "Dead Zero".

ETA link Dead Zero
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:11:59 PM EDT
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Just read "i sniper".

What a steaming pile of shit.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:14:43 PM EDT
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I read "I,Sniper". I think it's the newest one of the series. Good enough story but I was often left laughing at Hunters' lack of originality with his characters. IE: Joan Flanders A beautiful actress who protests the Vietnam war becomes the center of controversy, marries a billionaire( whose first two initials are T T) and does exercise videos. Or, a legendary Vietnam era sniper named Carl Hitchcock. Not a big deal, I just thought it was funny.  I'll still read the other books when I get through the stack I currently have in front of me.


No, there is a new one out; "Dead Zero".

Thanks for the clarification!

Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:21:52 PM EDT
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I read "I,Sniper". I think it's the newest one of the series. Good enough story but I was often left laughing at Hunters' lack of originality with his characters. IE: Joan Flanders A beautiful actress who protests the Vietnam war becomes the center of controversy, marries a billionaire( whose first two initials are T T) and does exercise videos. Or, a legendary Vietnam era sniper named Carl Hitchcock. Not a big deal, I just thought it was funny.  I'll still read the other books when I get through the stack I currently have in front of me.


No, there is a new one out; "Dead Zero".

Thanks for the clarification!



It hasn't been out long, I think it was released after Christmas.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:26:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:27:18 PM EDT
[#27]
Hot Springs is the best I've read so far. Pale Horse coming is second. Then POI.

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Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:27:57 PM EDT
[#28]
I just downloaded the second one for kindle.
The rest of the evening is set.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:29:25 PM EDT
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I discovered the series with a purchase of "I, Sniper" for a long plane flight.  My wife got me the rest of the Swagger series for Christmas and I'm reading POI now.  Once I got started on I, Sniper, I couldn't put it down.

Swagger is the shit.  He's much older in POI than Wahlberg was in the movie, having been a Vietnam vet and all.  I'm liking the book so far.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 3:29:37 PM EDT
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Pale Horse Coming is my favorite book of Hunters.

I, Sniper and Night of Thunder are his more recent works.

If you think Bob Lee is awesome, Earl is just as hardcore if not more.

Hot Springs is another great one!
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 7:23:15 PM EDT
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Only one I've read is I, Sniper.  Lots of eye-rolling yeah-right stuff, but harmless escapist fun. Plenty of willful suspension of disbelief required.
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 7:25:56 PM EDT
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I would suggest "dirty white boys" as well

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Dinkies!
Link Posted: 1/16/2011 11:22:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2011 2:01:27 AM EDT
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I-sniper was ok untill the end. Rest were pretty good.  
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 3:15:16 AM EDT
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Glad I clicked on this thread. I didn't realize there was a new book yet I'll have to pick it up.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 3:19:39 AM EDT
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I have all of the books and have read the entire series twice... Read them years ago and the movie wasn't shit compared to the books, I'll have to re-read them - its been a while.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 3:39:13 AM EDT
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I love to see Pale Horse as a movie. Think of the creative casting on that one.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 4:21:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2011 4:23:29 AM EDT
[#39]
Just started reading Point of Impact.  


I enjoyed the movie shooter for what it was, a simple action movie.    So far just about 9 chapters in it seems as though "shooter" wasn't even based on the book.  

Link Posted: 1/17/2011 4:29:48 AM EDT
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Finished Dirty White Boys....very sensual and tender, especially the tales of forbidden love behind bars.



Currently reading Point of Impact....which I guess is based on the movie "Sniper".



The book is okay but they kinda overcompensated with the young Mr. Wahlberg.



His untamed machismo was a bit over the top for the brooding, intellectual Bob Lee Swagger.


Link Posted: 1/17/2011 4:31:46 AM EDT
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There are two glaring ballistic errors in 'Point of Impact".

Anybody catch them?

Link Posted: 1/17/2011 4:40:19 AM EDT
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Finished Dirty White Boys....very sensual and tender, especially the tales of forbidden love behind bars.

Currently reading Point of Impact....which I guess is based on the movie "Sniper".

The book is okay but they kinda overcompensated with the young Mr. Wahlberg.

His untamed machismo was a bit over the top for the brooding, intellectual Bob Lee Swagger.


Actually, the movie is todays hollyweird destroying any likeness to the book. Wahlberg and the movie are both shit.
Mr. Hunter at least makes some attempt at knowing his weaponry, etc.,. I'll give him that.
I enjoy the Swagger novels for what they are.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 4:45:15 AM EDT
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My favorite was Master Sniper.   I was rooting for the nazi the whole time. I don't know why.


The rest were OK, nothing great, but good escapist cartoon violence type fiction.


Sort of like a movie, but in book form....
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 6:41:50 AM EDT
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I love to see Pale Horse as a movie. Think of the creative casting on that one.


I'd forgive alot of Hollywoods moronic stuff if they made Pale Horse Coming into a movie that followed the book as much as possible...
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 6:43:12 AM EDT
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Just started reading Point of Impact.  


I enjoyed the movie shooter for what it was, a simple action movie.    So far just about 9 chapters in it seems as though "shooter" wasn't even based on the book.  



The names are the same, that's about it.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 7:23:15 AM EDT
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I love to see Pale Horse as a movie. Think of the creative casting on that one.


I'd forgive alot of Hollywoods moronic stuff if they made Pale Horse Coming into a movie that followed the book as much as possible...


Hot Springs would be a good one as well I think.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 7:26:17 AM EDT
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I would suggest "dirty white boys" as well

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Dirty White Boys is my favorite from him, and Pale Horse is a fun read especially if you know your old school gun writers.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 7:27:16 AM EDT
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I love to see Pale Horse as a movie. Think of the creative casting on that one.


I'd forgive alot of Hollywoods moronic stuff if they made Pale Horse Coming into a movie that followed the book as much as possible...


Hot Springs would be a good one as well I think.


Yes it would.

BAR's shooting up brothels and casino's and 1911's galore.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 7:50:58 AM EDT
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I would suggest "dirty white boys" as well

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I liked it more than Point of Impact. There was more to the characters. The good guy wasn't perfect by a long shot, we were given insight into the bad guy's thought processes. Y'all may have a hard time getting through the buttsex in the very beginning though, you can skip it it, it's not really part of the plot.
Link Posted: 1/17/2011 7:54:23 AM EDT
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It's been a looong time since I read POI. Maybe it's time to break it out again.
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