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Posted: 6/19/2014 12:00:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/19/2014 12:04:44 PM EST by PatriotAr15]
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/education/christian-school-faulted-for-halting-abuse-study.html?_r=1

"The person who supposedly counseled me told me if I reported a person like that to the police, I was damaging the cause of Christ, and I would be responsible for the abuser going to hell. He said all of my problems were as a result of my actions in the abuse, which mostly took place before I was 12, and I should just forgive the abuser.”






According to an investigative report from Al Jazeera America, rape victims searching for help at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., were told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.
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Rapeculture.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.
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Sometimes God wants you to be raped.
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They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:


Sometimes God wants you to be raped.
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told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.


Sometimes God wants you to be raped.



I know I shouldnt have, but this line made me LOL....

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That sucks....
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Originally Posted By 74novaman:
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Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.
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Probably more like "I got drunk as hell and had consensual sex with some guy I didn't really know and now I feel like I was raped because I don't distinctly remember saying yes."

Read the article BTW..........their example seems a bit fishy as far as forced sex goes and has a bit of "sour grapes, he didn't really love me even though he said he did" smell to it.
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Originally Posted By 74novaman:
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Ain't that the truth, cover up suicides, murders, theft, deaths by alcohol poisoning, etc.
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Really? Al Jazeera buggering Bob Jones now? Must be a slow news day.

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Originally Posted By 74novaman:
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Sadly this is often the case. In this particular case religion was just the excuse the University is using.
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This.

Eastern Michigan University had a huge scandal about this a few years back, girl actually ended up raped and murdered.
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This.

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Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.



I am no fan of Bob Jones but they lifted that ban years ago. Bob Jones actually lifted it live on Larry King one night during an interview. And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones. My back ground is in the network of churches that support those two schools and have both visited and have had friends attend both schools. I am NOT in that network anymore. Pensacola had the same ban in the past.

Patrick
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yep
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And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones.



I've known people who've been to both and yeah, PCC is worse.

They're both not places I'd want to be.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:

According to an investigative report from Al Jazeera America, rape victims searching for help at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., were told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.
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LOL.

given that bob jones types think you can pray away the gay, this is plausible...
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This doesn't need to be one of those "crazy Christian school" stories because Bob Jones has that part nailed already.

Let's start with the eye gaze and 6 inch rule.
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I am no fan of Bob Jones but they lifted that ban years ago. Bob Jones actually lifted it live on Larry King one night during an interview. And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones. My back ground is in the network of churches that support those two schools and have both visited and have had friends attend both schools. I am NOT in that network anymore. Pensacola had the same ban in the past.

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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.



I am no fan of Bob Jones but they lifted that ban years ago. Bob Jones actually lifted it live on Larry King one night during an interview. And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones. My back ground is in the network of churches that support those two schools and have both visited and have had friends attend both schools. I am NOT in that network anymore. Pensacola had the same ban in the past.

Patrick


Not sure "worse" is the right word, but Pensacola is definitely far more fundamentalist than BJU. They used to preach to us/lecture us about how "liberal" BJU was. Although, things have changed in the last few years since the founder stepped down as President and turned it over to younger blood (finally--should have happened decades ago).

Graduated PCC 1998 with a 4 year BS degree.

ETA: I figure if I could survive that, I can survive pretty much anything.
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In all fairness, Bob Jones is the poster school for "crazy Christians."
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It's the Rapeture!
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Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.
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Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.

That's debatable
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I am no fan of Bob Jones but they lifted that ban years ago. Bob Jones actually lifted it live on Larry King one night during an interview. And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones. My back ground is in the network of churches that support those two schools and have both visited and have had friends attend both schools. I am NOT in that network anymore. Pensacola had the same ban in the past.

Patrick
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.



I am no fan of Bob Jones but they lifted that ban years ago. Bob Jones actually lifted it live on Larry King one night during an interview. And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones. My back ground is in the network of churches that support those two schools and have both visited and have had friends attend both schools. I am NOT in that network anymore. Pensacola had the same ban in the past.

Patrick


LOL, I met someone who had (very) briefly attended PCC. They said making prolonged eye contact with a member of the opposite sex in front of the "hall watchers" could get you bitched at. Any physical contact was forbidden. Fuck those assclowns.
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It's the Rapeture!
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Rapeculture.

It's the Rapeture!


#YesAllWomen
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I think we have a member here that graduated from PCC.
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I'm guessing more than one. I'm a lowly 14'er, but I did (see above a few posts).
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LOL, I met someone who had (very) briefly attended PCC. They said making prolonged eye contact with a member of the opposite sex in front of the "hall watchers" could get you bitched at. Any physical contact was forbidden. Fuck those assclowns.
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Originally Posted By patsue:
Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.



I am no fan of Bob Jones but they lifted that ban years ago. Bob Jones actually lifted it live on Larry King one night during an interview. And no, Pensacola is much worse than Bob Jones. My back ground is in the network of churches that support those two schools and have both visited and have had friends attend both schools. I am NOT in that network anymore. Pensacola had the same ban in the past.

Patrick


LOL, I met someone who had (very) briefly attended PCC. They said making prolonged eye contact with a member of the opposite sex in front of the "hall watchers" could get you bitched at. Any physical contact was forbidden. Fuck those assclowns.
I guess looking at a woman is a sin,... but rape, is A-OKAY!
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Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.

Bob Jones University is the same university that used to ban bi-racial relationships. They are worse than Pensacola Christian College... and I find that to be quite an accomplishment.


Bob Jones is a derp school, but that doesn't mean 74novaman is wrong.

Schools tend to be very proactive ignoring crimes to cover their own tails.
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/education/christian-school-faulted-for-halting-abuse-study.html?_r=1

"The person who supposedly counseled me told me if I reported a person like that to the police, I was damaging the cause of Christ, and I would be responsible for the abuser going to hell. He said all of my problems were as a result of my actions in the abuse, which mostly took place before I was 12, and I should just forgive the abuser.”




http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/18/bob-jones-university-told-rpe-victims-to-repent-and-look-for-root-sin-that-caused-their-rpe/


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So you want us to Know:

You Read Al Jazeera/NY Times??
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This.

Eastern Michigan University had a huge scandal about this a few years back, girl actually ended up raped and murdered.
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Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.



This.

Eastern Michigan University had a huge scandal about this a few years back, girl actually ended up raped and murdered.



Happens in high schools too.

Ask about the rolling pin story.
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Again, this.


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LOL.

given that bob jones types think you can pray away the gay, this is plausible...
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According to an investigative report from Al Jazeera America, rape victims searching for help at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., were told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.


LOL.

given that bob jones types think you can pray away the gay, this is plausible...

Pretty much. The types that run these schools are close to psychotic.
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lol, when I was a kid, PCC wouldn't even let it's students attend movies.

They are the original Taliban south.
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Yup.

Local college handles drunk driving in a certain manner so they can under report the numbers for that.
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Saying "everybody does it" is a pretty lame excuse in general but shouldn't a Christian school attempt to be BETTER than average morality-wise? They do purport to be better than average so why shouldn't they be held to the higher standard they claimed title to?
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Sometimes God wants you to be raped.
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told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.


Sometimes God wants you to be raped.


It's all according to God's plan according to the Magic Book.
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Yep, same sex, gay LGBT rape... I got it!

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I went to a christian high school with heavy affiliations with BJU. I had to spend a few days on their campus for national fine arts competition. That place is nuts!!! There are certain parts of campus restricted to the opposite sex. You have to apply for permission to go on a date and be accompanied by a chaperon. There is a dating parlor just full of three seat couches so you can have supervised dates. Both parties must sit on the extreme end of the ouch. All this was in 2008 so I don't know what may have changed.
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I went to a christian high school with heavy affiliations with BJU. I had to spend a few days on their campus for national fine arts competition. That place is nuts!!! There are certain parts of campus restricted to the opposite sex. You have to apply for permission to go on a date and be accompanied by a chaperon. There is a dating parlor just full of three seat couches so you can have supervised dates. Both parties must sit on the extreme end of the ouch. All this was in 2008 so I don't know what may have changed.
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Seriously?

That makes BYU's code of conduct sound like an off-campus frat house at FSU.

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Nobody makes Christianity look as bad as Christians do. Nobody!
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Why don't they just do like the hardcore Muslim countries and execute the rape victims for adultery?

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Seriously?

That makes BYU's code of conduct sound like an off-campus frat house at FSU.

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I went to a christian high school with heavy affiliations with BJU. I had to spend a few days on their campus for national fine arts competition. That place is nuts!!! There are certain parts of campus restricted to the opposite sex. You have to apply for permission to go on a date and be accompanied by a chaperon. There is a dating parlor just full of three seat couches so you can have supervised dates. Both parties must sit on the extreme end of the ouch. All this was in 2008 so I don't know what may have changed.


Seriously?

That makes BYU's code of conduct sound like an off-campus frat house at FSU.

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Well put
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A couple of my sisters went to college there in the 70s.
The place is nuttier than a sack full of squirrels.
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This.

Eastern Michigan University had a huge scandal about this a few years back, girl actually ended up raped and murdered.
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They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.



This.

Eastern Michigan University had a huge scandal about this a few years back, girl actually ended up raped and murdered.


Probably not true. I bet she just got drunk and killed herself and then blamed the guy.
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Trust me, in this case that place is a crazy nut house.
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Trust me, in this case that place is a crazy nut house.
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They're trying to make this a "crazy Christian school" thing, but basically all Universities do everything in their power to fudge the Clery reports to make campuses look safer than they actually are.



Trust me, in this case that place is a crazy nut house.


I'm pretty sure that was known before this came out.

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having grown up in a fundamental baptist church, this does not come as much of a surprise.

worst thing i saw was a 45-year-old deacon engaged in statutory rape of a 16 year old. turns out that the associate pastor was also banging the girl (who, to be fair, was ridiculously hot). despite the fact that both men were married, they suffered no disciplinary action, while the girl and her family were drummed out of the church for seducing good men of god.
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Every Bob Jones person I have met is either a looney tune, a homosexual, or a coke head, or a combination of all three.
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While that may be true, the stories from some of my classmates who left that place convinced me that they are actually crazy
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LOL.

given that bob jones types think you can pray away the gay, this is plausible...
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According to an investigative report from Al Jazeera America, rape victims searching for help at Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., were told to repent and seek out their own "root sin” that caused them to be raped.


LOL.

given that bob jones types think you can pray away the gay, this is plausible...



Dont worry no one is ever going to pray you straight
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This. Absolutely.
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