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Posted: 9/26/2004 10:25:44 PM EST
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US folk legend Bob Dylan was an unwilling rebel who dreamt of a simple nine-to-five existence, his memoir reveals.

The icon of 1960s' counterculture also felt a prisoner in his own home, where he packed a Colt pistol and Winchester rifle in fear of "rogue radicals".
Excerpts from the memoir are published in Newsweek magazine, along with a rare interview with the singer from an unidentified motel room in the US Midwest.

The 63-year-old singer appears on the cover of the weekly magazine wearing a pearl-coloured cowboy hat and sporting a pencil-thin moustache.

The excerpts are likely to surprise, if not shock, many Dylan loyalists.








"The world was absurd ... I had very little in common with and knew even less about a generation that I was supposed to be the voice of," Dylan says.

"I was fantasising about a nine-to-five existence, a house on a tree-lined block with a white picket fence, pink roses in the backyard.

"Roadmaps to our homestead must have been posted in all 50 states for gangs of dropouts and druggies.

"I wanted to set fire to these people."

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:39:49 PM EST
can't say I blame him
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 10:59:05 PM EST
and who is going to post this on DU?


Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:01:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 11:02:19 PM EST by NightWatchman]
Dylan was first a folk singer, of a Woodie Guthrie vain, Great Depression type songs, not that hippie crap so much. Somebody put this on DU.

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 11:09:05 PM EST
Precious.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:21:41 AM EST
I'd be pissed if a constant stream of hippies was showing up outside my door. Good idea, burning them.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:30:33 AM EST
That's too funny.

He should put out a big cardboard cutout of Cartman in his yard.


GET A HAIRCUT YOU HIPPIES!!
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:31:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:48:33 AM EST
I always did like Dylan.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:56:06 AM EST
I am a huge Dylan fan. However, his attitude towards his fans reveals a flaw in his character--these were the people making him the big bucks and all he had for them was contempt. If he didn't want to be their voice that's fine (which is why he went electric), but he didn't need to say anything about it. He didn't like collectivism and said so--but he also didn't like the military/industrial/statist complex either (Masters of War).

BTW--The reason things are so screwed up in government today is because the peace & love generation is in control of damn near everything and they haven't got the first damn clue what they are doing.

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 4:00:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
I am a huge Dylan fan. However, his attitude towards his fans reveals a flaw in his character--these were the people making him the big bucks and all he had for them was contempt. If he didn't want to be their voice that's fine (which is why he went electric), but he didn't need to say anything about it. He didn't like collectivism and said so--but he also didn't like the military/industrial/statist complex either (Masters of War).

BTW--The reason things are so screwed up in government today is because the peace & love generation is in control of damn near everything and they haven't got the first damn clue what they are doing.




Bingo... just look at education

- BG
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 4:05:00 AM EST
I've always enjoyed his music ... been to 8 concerts.

You guys should here his rant on homos in sanfrancisco. It's pretty entertaining.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 4:11:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

You guys should here his rant on homos in sanfrancisco. It's pretty entertaining.



Where is this rant? I'd love to hear an anti-homo rant from Bob Dylan. It's fun to hear a cultural icon deviate from the PC orthodoxy.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 4:14:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jeepster:

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

You guys should here his rant on homos in sanfrancisco. It's pretty entertaining.



Where is this rant? I'd love to hear an anti-homo rant from Bob Dylan. It's fun to hear a cultural icon deviate from the PC orthodoxy.



+1
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:44:34 AM EST
"A long time ago they used to have these Greek plays, pretty long time ago. Anyway,
nowadays they got a thing called "Actors". You know, they're in movies. Back then
they had actors too, but they called them hypocrites. That's right. It'd be like a
play, you know, like there'd be a play with about 30 people in it, but actually
there'd be only four. They'd all just wear masks; they ... [Dylan pretends to
recite in a high pitched voice] ... to the crowd - talk in another voice, and they'd
just wear a mask. So four people could play the part of 30 people. That's a heavy
responsibility. Keeps you on your toes. Never know who you are.

So now, too, there's a lot of hypocrites; they're talkin' you know, using Jesus'
name. But don't let that put you off. Because they're still dealing with the world,
and Jesus has overcome the world - that's what he did at the cross, as simple as
that. He didn't make it complicated. But actually, if you look at Jesus you gotta
look at the cross.

Actually, if you wonder why all these things are happening nowadays, Joshua, you
know, he went into, believe it was, uh, Canaan land, and God told him that in
certain times He would destroy all the people, every man, woman, children there. You
see that's bad. Certainly he hated to leave the children, but they was all just
defiled. And there was some cities. God said "Don't go in there yet" so Joshua
wondered why, and God said, "because their iniquity is not yet full"

So now, you look around today, when we started out this tour, we started out in San
Francisco. It's a kind of unique town these days. I think it's either one third or
two thirds of the population that are homosexuals in San Francisco. I've heard it
said. Now, I guess they're working up to a hundred percent, I don't know. But
anyway, it's a growing place for homosexuals, and I read they have homosexual
politics, and it's a political party. I don't mean it's going on in somebody's
closet. I mean it's political! All right, you know what I'm talking about? Anyway,
I would just think, well I guess the iniquity's not yet full. And I don't wanna be
around when it is!"

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:50:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jeepster:
I'd be pissed if a constant stream of hippies was showing up outside my door. Good idea, burning them.



This comment was not inclusive of our hippy brothers here at AR15.com. I am surprised that it was passed over by the PC review committee.

We cannot advocate hippycide here on this site.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 8:57:44 AM EST
Got them Bourgeouis Blues.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:06:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:08:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By BenDover:

Originally Posted By Jeepster:
I'd be pissed if a constant stream of hippies was showing up outside my door. Good idea, burning them.



This comment was not inclusive of our hippy brothers here at AR15.com. I am surprised that it was passed over by the PC review committee.

We cannot advocate hippycide here on this site.



Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:10:27 AM EST
I went to see Dylan in concert last month.

Had a good time.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:16:13 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:20:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:45:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Got them Bourgeouis Blues.




I think that was a leadbelly tune.

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:56:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:57:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:
" I read they have homosexual politics, and it's a political party. I don't mean it's going on in somebody's closet. I mean it's political! All right, you know what I'm talking about?"
Bob Dylan



I think the party he's referring to is the Democrat party.

Good quote from Bob. Inequity is a growing problem in America, along with licentuousness, unseemlyness and depravity. I can't stand any of it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 10:11:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
We cannot advocate hippycide here on this site.

i am currently re-writing the coc to ban both hippiecide and francocide in hopes of achieving a kindler, gentler thousand points of light...or some such shit.

regardless, it will still be 'ok' to bash white dudes from ohio.




hmmm...

Kinder gentler machine gun hand? thousand points of light for the homeless man?

Thats' Neil not Dylan ;-)
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 10:11:22 AM EST

"I wanted to set fire to these people."


Let me correct that for you:

"I wanted to set fire to these people except that I made a zillion dollars off of them & now I'm such a big time millionaire that I am free to be a major hypocrite & criticize the people who made me a millionaire."
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:54:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 11:54:42 AM EST by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By hardcase:

"I wanted to set fire to these people."


Let me correct that for you:

"I wanted to set fire to these people except that I made a zillion dollars off of them & now I'm such a big time millionaire that I am free to be a major hypocrite & criticize the people who made me a millionaire."



Get off your stinking high horse… Dylan can say what he wants about who he wants.

Dylan has every right to say what he wants about hippies just as Barbara Streisand can say what she wants about Republicans… And everybody who don’t like what they say is free not to buy either’s records in the future. It is called a free market.

Dylan is a big boy and knows exactly what he is doing.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:02:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 12:03:22 PM EST by Lightning_P38]
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:10:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:17:48 PM EST
"that he not busy being born, is busy dying"
Dylan on writing a book.


"Lest we forget, while you're writing, you're not living. What do they call it? Splendid isolation? I don't find it that splendid."
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:54:56 PM EST


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Originally Posted By hardcase:


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"I wanted to set fire to these people."
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Let me correct that for you:

"I wanted to set fire to these people except that I made a zillion dollars off of them & now I'm such a big time millionaire that I am free to be a major hypocrite & criticize the people who made me a millionaire."
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Get off your stinking high horse… Dylan can say what he wants about who he wants.

Dylan has every right to say what he wants about hippies just as Barbara Streisand can say what she wants about Republicans… And everybody who don’t like what they say is free not to buy either’s records in the future. It is called a free market.

Dylan is a big boy and knows exactly what he is doing.



Of course, Dylan & Streisand can say whatever they want, as can you & I, but you obviously missed the point. It's not a freedom-of-speech issue. And likewise, anyone can choose not to buy Dylan's or Streisand's records. It's not called a free-market issue either. Refer to Campy's post above, because he has summarized it very succinctly. The simple fact is that good old Dylan didn't say anything about burning anybody when he actually had a career or his career would have gone down in flames in his prime earning years & left him millions of dollars poorer. He says it today, when his career is over, which makes him a hypocrite.

Yes, Dylan knows exactly what he's doing & if he wasn't such a hypocrite he would have said it 30 or 40 years ago when he could have stood on his principles, even though it would have cost him a lot of money. I reiterate, by saying it now rather than then, he's a hypocrite.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 1:28:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By hardcase:


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Originally Posted By hardcase:


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"I wanted to set fire to these people."
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Let me correct that for you:

"I wanted to set fire to these people except that I made a zillion dollars off of them & now I'm such a big time millionaire that I am free to be a major hypocrite & criticize the people who made me a millionaire."
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Get off your stinking high horse… Dylan can say what he wants about who he wants.

Dylan has every right to say what he wants about hippies just as Barbara Streisand can say what she wants about Republicans… And everybody who don’t like what they say is free not to buy either’s records in the future. It is called a free market.

Dylan is a big boy and knows exactly what he is doing.



Of course, Dylan & Streisand can say whatever they want, as can you & I, but you obviously missed the point. It's not a freedom-of-speech issue. And likewise, anyone can choose not to buy Dylan's or Streisand's records. It's not called a free-market issue either. Refer to Campy's post above, because he has summarized it very succinctly. The simple fact is that good old Dylan didn't say anything about burning anybody when he actually had a career or his career would have gone down in flames in his prime earning years & left him millions of dollars poorer. He says it today, when his career is over, which makes him a hypocrite.

Yes, Dylan knows exactly what he's doing & if he wasn't such a hypocrite he would have said it 30 or 40 years ago when he could have stood on his principles, even though it would have cost him a lot of money. I reiterate, by saying it now rather than then, he's a hypocrite.



Verbal claptrap… and quite frankly downright silly. It takes a very silly person to believe that bullsh*t... music like any other profession is a business.

Dylan had no obligation to say anything about anybody at anytime.

Nobody made anybody buy Dylan’s music. Dylan owes the people who bought his music NOTHING.
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