I don't think you understand my reply dude. I don't give fuck, the movies just don't appeal to me. I don't BLAME the movie for the behavior, I just understand that it glorifies it wether than be intentionally or not. That's how it's taken. I feel the same way about gangster rap. I know what it promotes, wether it's just music or not. I know who the target audience is. The dumb ass wanna be white kids who also listen to it are just a pitiful side product of the "thug is cool" generation. And for what it's worth, behind bars or not doesn't matter. Those same little rapists, murderers, car jackers and all around hoods had more "homies on da outs" than their were of them inside. And yes, the "vato" movies or whatever you wanna call them aren't AS bad probably. I was primarily referring to movies like menace. Anyway you wanna take it, just realize I was making a condescending list of movies that I thought sucked. Don't take it so personally.