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Posted: 8/5/2005 12:07:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:20:52 PM EDT by LTVN68]
I find this fascinating.......I don't qualify as I served only a two year tour (Vietnam) .....after watching the Blackwater videos here on AR15......I think you would earn your pay........

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/academy/ (link)

THE BLACKWATER ACADEMY EXPERIENCE

The next Blackwater Academy will commence on September 11, 2005 with applications due no later than Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 4:00 p.m. (EST). Academy dates for 2006:


Application Deadline: 28 November 2005 for 09 January 2006 Course
Application Deadline: 13 March 2006 for 24 April 2006 Course
Application Deadline: 26 May 2006 for 10 July 2006 Course
Application Deadline: 01 September 2006 for 16 October 2006 Course


The Academy is an intense eight-week course which includes training in various firearms, Close Quarter Battle, Performance Driving, Executive Protection, Surveillance Detection, Ground Fighting, and Physical Security.

U.S. Citizen, proof of citizenship required (copy of passport).
Applicants must agree to an exclusive services contract with Blackwater following graduation provided that a minimum amount of work is provided by Blackwater. Applicants must, at a minimum, have completed a four year tour of duty in the Armed Forces or its equivalent as determined by the admissions review board.
Only those who were honorably discharged need apply.
.................etc.......................................................................................................................................................................Admission decisions are at the sole discretion of Blackwater. Successful completion of Academy is not guaranteed and Blackwater may discharge failing students in its sole discretion.

Successful Graduates will be offered two years employment as an Independent Contractor through Blackwater USA as operatives in its security consulting arena.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:08:34 PM EDT
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:09:50 PM EDT
damn, they must be hurting for bodies. didn't their criteria use to be sf, seal, recon, etc?
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:09:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LTVN68:
I find this fascinating.......I don't qualify as I served only a two year tour (Vietnam) .....after watching the Blackwater videos here on AR15......I think you would earn your pay........

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/academy/ (link)

THE BLACKWATER ACADEMY EXPERIENCE

The next Blackwater Academy will commence on September 11, 2005 with applications due no later than Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 4:00 p.m. (EST).

The Academy is an intense eight-week course which includes training in various firearms, Close Quarter Battle, Performance Driving, Executive Protection, Surveillance Detection, Ground Fighting, and Physical Security.

U.S. Citizen, proof of citizenship required (copy of passport).
Applicants must agree to an exclusive services contract with Blackwater following graduation provided that a minimum amount of work is provided by Blackwater. Applicants must, at a minimum, have completed a four year tour of duty in the Armed Forces or its equivalent as determined by the admissions review board.
Only those who were honorably discharged need apply.
.................etc.......................................................................................................................................................................Admission decisions are at the sole discretion of Blackwater. Successful completion of Academy is not guaranteed and Blackwater may discharge failing students in its sole discretion.

Successful Graduates will be offered two years employment as an Independent Contractor through Blackwater USA as operatives in its security consulting arena.



Dimes to doghnuts you'd qualify. Everything's wavierable I'd bet.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:10:16 PM EDT
What does it pay? And what's the age limit?
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:11:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:12:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:
damn, they must be hurting for bodies. didn't their criteria use to be sf, seal, recon, etc?


I don't belive so. I belive it has been the same. And I don't think they are hurting to much, I am sure they simply have more work.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:14:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:14:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!


I belive about $120k if I am not mistaken. If you go over for 8 months that is only about $20 an hour for gambling with your life.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:15:01 PM EDT
I let my brother know, he's going to go for it, he qualifies 4 year marines, demo expert, counter terror..... wish I could go
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:15:49 PM EDT

due no later than Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 4:00 p.m


?
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:18:01 PM EDT
Murdoc:
Academy dates for 2006:


Application Deadline: 28 November 2005 for 09 January 2006 Course
Application Deadline: 13 March 2006 for 24 April 2006 Course
Application Deadline: 26 May 2006 for 10 July 2006 Course
Application Deadline: 01 September 2006 for 16 October 2006 Course



Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:18:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:

due no later than Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 4:00 p.m


?



Better hurry
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:18:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!


I belive about $120k if I am not mistaken. If you go over for 8 months that is only about $20 an hour for gambling with your life.




Like I said, doesn't pay enough.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:18:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:20:48 PM EDT by hatebreed]

Originally Posted By LTVN68:
applications due no later than Thursday, July 14, 2005 at 4:00 p.m. (EST).



That was two weeks ago.


ETA: I can't believe nobody had spotted that when I replied and in the 4 seconds it took to point it out 3 other people noticed and beat me to it.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:19:08 PM EDT
thanks LTVN68
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:20:02 PM EDT
So how much does Blackwater want you to shell out for this academy of theirs?
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:20:39 PM EDT
Damn. Talk about TEMPTING!

Reckon I'd need to lose about 30 pounds first, but to be taught and then work with the guys who make up that bunch?

Damn!

And $120K is a good 33% more than I make now, and it's mostly, if not all, tax-free (overseas work).

Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:21:47 PM EDT
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:22:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:24:10 PM EDT by Zaphod]

Originally Posted By napalm:
So how much does Blackwater want you to shell out for this academy of theirs?



Who knows? Probably a bunch!

ETA: Here's the link to the academy, but I haven't found any price: Link
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:24:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By napalm:
So how much does Blackwater want you to shell out for this academy of theirs?



About $120k.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:25:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



24.9 or less on the National Institute of Health body mass index test. sorta crappy, since I was higher than that when I graduated basic training.

all it does is ask your height and weight. the test was designed around somalians or something.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:26:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!


I belive about $120k if I am not mistaken. If you go over for 8 months that is only about $20 an hour for gambling with your life.



Your Math-Fu is weak young grasshopper.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:26:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Just for giggles, I sent them an e-mail asking just that.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:27:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Your Math-Fu is weak young grasshopper.



$20.83 per hour.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:29:46 PM EDT
Well at 100 hours a week for eight months or 32 weeks $20 and hour is $64,000. Most of the contractor work I am hearing about is running well over a $100k. A buddy of mine down in MS told me that a company he has worked construction with in the past is sending crews over there right now. Every approved member is making over 100k and will be there for I think he told me 300days. There is a mark were the money you make for that year is tax free and they stay one more day than that day. If you have the right mindset 8wks would do you well enough get by if you keep your 6 covered.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:30:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Just for giggles, I sent them an e-mail asking just that.



Please post. I would assume so many push ups in a minute, run a mile etc.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:31:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!


I belive about $120k if I am not mistaken. If you go over for 8 months that is only about $20 an hour for gambling with your life.



Your Math-Fu is weak young grasshopper.


Is it? Your not talking about a 8 hour 5 day a week job, your talking about 24/7 your always at risk. Your always on the job until your back on american soil.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:32:28 PM EDT
Those guys in the video appeared to be having fun.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:32:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Please post. I would assume so many push ups in a minute, run a mile etc.




Will do. I'm seriously curious about it as just a personal goal.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:33:17 PM EDT
I found out I know a guy who is an instructor for these guys. I haven't talked to him since I heard that, though. He just disappeared for a while and no one knew exactly what he was up to.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:33:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Just for giggles, I sent them an e-mail asking just that.



They have all that info on the site.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:38:10 PM EDT
PT REQUIREMENTS:



What are the PT requirements?
Initial PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run 12:45 minutes or less, 8 pull-ups, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute, 45 push-ups, 54 sit-ups, both done in two minute sets. Final PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run in less than 10:45 minutes, 12 pull-ups (fingers out and chin completely over the bar), 75 push ups, 75 sit-ups (chest to knees) both done in two minute sets, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute. You should be extremely fit mentally and physically and be prepared for military type PFT's every day. It is highly recommended that you also be prepared for cardiovascular training. You should be in top physical condition prior to arrival. Failure to perform in any area of physical fitness testing can result in dismissal from the Academy.


Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:38:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:40:33 PM EDT by dvr9]

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!


I belive about $120k if I am not mistaken. If you go over for 8 months that is only about $20 an hour for gambling with your life.



Your Math-Fu is weak young grasshopper.


Is it? Your not talking about a 8 hour 5 day a week job, your talking about 24/7 your always at risk. Your always on the job until your back on american soil.



$20 X 24(hours per day) = $480 day.

8 months = .666 (two thirds) of a year.

365 days X .666 = 243.3 days

243.3days X $480day = $116,788.32/year.

This assumes an 8 month year. Most calendars I have ever seen is a 12 month year.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:40:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Just for giggles, I sent them an e-mail asking just that.



They have all that info on the site.



Woops!
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:40:53 PM EDT
PT test is easy enough. experiance is the thing that gets you that job.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:41:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
PT REQUIREMENTS:



What are the PT requirements?
Initial PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run 12:45 minutes or less, 8 pull-ups, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute, 45 push-ups, 54 sit-ups, both done in two minute sets. Final PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run in less than 10:45 minutes, 12 pull-ups (fingers out and chin completely over the bar), 75 push ups, 75 sit-ups (chest to knees) both done in two minute sets, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute. You should be extremely fit mentally and physically and be prepared for military type PFT's every day. It is highly recommended that you also be prepared for cardiovascular training. You should be in top physical condition prior to arrival. Failure to perform in any area of physical fitness testing can result in dismissal from the Academy.





The police academy was harder than the above.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:41:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:44:16 PM EDT by olyarms]
Dman now yall confusing me.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:43:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:

$20 X 24(hours per day) = $480 day.

8 months = .666 (two thirds) of a year.

365 days X .666 = 243.3 days

243.3days X $480day = $116,788.32/year.

This assumes an 8 month year. Most calendars I have ever seen is a 12 month year.




8 months = 240 days (30 days per month)

240 days = 5760 hours

$120K/5760 = $20.83/hour



So, now thet we've redifined elementary arithmetic, who's going to apply?
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:45:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Just for giggles, I sent them an e-mail asking just that.



They have all that info on the site.



Woops!





Return e-mail:

Dear sir,

Never mind, you're not who we're looking for.

Love,

The crew at Blackwater.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:45:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By dvr9:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Would be FUN, but it doesn't pay enough.



???

I thought the contractor guys were making some mad cash over there... Unless you're loaded!

Party at f4yr's house!


I belive about $120k if I am not mistaken. If you go over for 8 months that is only about $20 an hour for gambling with your life.



Your Math-Fu is weak young grasshopper.


Is it? Your not talking about a 8 hour 5 day a week job, your talking about 24/7 your always at risk. Your always on the job until your back on american soil.



$20 X 24(hours per day) = $480 day.

8 months = .666 (two thirds) of a year.

365 days X .666 = 243.3 days

243.3days X $480day = $116,788.32/year.

This assumes an 8 month year. Most calendars I have ever seen is a 12 month year.


SO it's A little off I did it in my head close enough.
ETA: It's about $12-13 an hour than



Based on a 12 month year:

$120k year divided by 365 days = $328.77 per day.

$328.77 / 24hours per day = $13.70 per hour.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:46:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Just for giggles, I sent them an e-mail asking just that.



They have all that info on the site.



Woops!





Return e-mail:

Dear sir,

Never mind, you're not who we're looking for.

Love,

The crew at Blackwater.



Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:46:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:49:44 PM EDT by cck]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
And $120K is a good 33% more than I make now, and it's mostly, if not all, tax-free (overseas work).




I don't know why you think its tax-free, and you are in danger 24-7 not 8 hours a day, keep that in mind. But if your a soldier or marine getting off your tour, it sounds like a hell of a deal.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:52:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:53:16 PM EDT by Zaphod]

Originally Posted By Goonboss:



Return e-mail:

Dear sir,

Never mind, you're not who we're looking for.

Love,

The crew at Blackwater.





I was thinking the same thing!




Hey, Blackwater! I can do arithmetic, too!
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:52:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cck:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
And $120K is a good 33% more than I make now, and it's mostly, if not all, tax-free (overseas work).




I don't know why you think its tax-free, and you are in danger 24-7 not 8 hours a day, keep that in mind. But if your a soldier or marine getting off your tour, it sounds like a hell of a deal.



It's tax free after a point of X many continuous days OCONUS.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:54:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cck:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
And $120K is a good 33% more than I make now, and it's mostly, if not all, tax-free (overseas work).




I don't know why you think its tax-free, and you are in danger 24-7 not 8 hours a day, keep that in mind. But if your a soldier or marine getting off your tour, it sounds like a hell of a deal.



+1
Wouldn't make me walk away from a 63K job at home, but as a soldier who's already been doing it 24/7 for far less, I'd be all over it.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:55:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 12:57:18 PM EDT by WildBoar]

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Pretty much rules out any online commando thats for sure.

What are the PT requirements?
Initial PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run 12:45 minutes or less, 8 pull-ups, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute, 45 push-ups, 54 sit-ups, both done in two minute sets. Final PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run in less than 10:45 minutes, 12 pull-ups (fingers out and chin completely over the bar), 75 push ups, 75 sit-ups (chest to knees) both done in two minute sets, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute. You should be extremely fit mentally and physically and be prepared for military type PFT's every day. It is highly recommended that you also be prepared for cardiovascular training. You should be in top physical condition prior to arrival. Failure to perform in any area of physical fitness testing can result in dismissal from the Academy.


Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:57:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:



Return e-mail:

Dear sir,

Never mind, you're not who we're looking for.

Love,

The crew at Blackwater.





I was thinking the same thing!




Hey, Blackwater! I can do arithmetic, too!



Maybe a job in the accounting department?
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:58:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
I wonder what the physical requirements would be.



Pretty much rules out any online commando thats for sure.
[quoteWhat are the PT requirements?
Initial PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run 12:45 minutes or less, 8 pull-ups, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute, 45 push-ups, 54 sit-ups, both done in two minute sets. Final PFT requirements: 1.5 mile run in less than 10:45 minutes, 12 pull-ups (fingers out and chin completely over the bar), 75 push ups, 75 sit-ups (chest to knees) both done in two minute sets, 80 ft dummy drag under one minute. You should be extremely fit mentally and physically and be prepared for military type PFT's every day. It is highly recommended that you also be prepared for cardiovascular training. You should be in top physical condition prior to arrival. Failure to perform in any area of physical fitness testing can result in dismissal from the Academy.



My issue would be the run. I have not ran in years. No better time than now to start, again.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:59:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 1:00:35 PM EDT
that BMI deal is a load of crap, according to the website with it, I didnt even pass when I graduated basic training, and I was one skinny SOB.
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