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Posted: 4/4/2017 3:01:51 PM EDT
https://www.yahoo.com/news/suiting-swiss-guard-austrian-blacksmiths-slideshow-wp-165420756/photo-p-blacksmith-johann-schmidberger-works-photo-165420652.html

Faced with an aged stock in need of replacement, the Guards turned to brothers Johann and Georg Schmidberger—the fifth generation to run the family blacksmith’s business in the Austrian town of Molln—to provide them with 80 suits of armor covering the torso and arms.The brothers have produced 10 of the suits a year since 2009, meaning the deal will be completed this year, and new replacements will not be needed for quite some time.
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Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:08:46 PM EDT
Neat that there are still people out there who know how to do that.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:12:27 PM EDT
That's really cool, thanks OP.
Only 10 suits per year... that's time/labor intensive.  Wow
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:14:19 PM EDT
is it bullet proof or stab proof?

or just for all show?
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:14:21 PM EDT
It would be fun to apprentice under them.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:22:00 PM EDT
Awesome...
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:23:40 PM EDT
That would be awesome lined with kevlar. Then you could be stab proof and bullet proof.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:25:39 PM EDT
Gotta be places in Detroit where they could just stamp out all the parts...
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:28:57 PM EDT
It's amazing what people can do.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:33:17 PM EDT
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Well, with ceramic underplate and a Kevlar gambeson...
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:40:22 PM EDT
I walked around the Vatican once and rounded a corner to be surprised with guards standing there at a driveway/gate with halberds and full medieval armor on.

Was pretty neat...
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:43:49 PM EDT
Cost per unit?
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 3:49:42 PM EDT
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Cost per unit?
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$6800-9500 USD per unit, depends on material and treatment.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:13:12 PM EDT
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Only 10 suits per year... that's time/labor intensive.  Wow
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I enjoy watching craftsman make things like this. The Holland and Holland video on youtube is a big favorite of mine. 
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:15:21 PM EDT
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Plate armor is pretty much stab proof.  Bullet proof?  Not so much.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:35:38 PM EDT
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Plate armor is pretty much stab proof.  Bullet proof?  Not so much.
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Plate armor is pretty much stab proof.  Bullet proof?  Not so much.
Depends on the plate. If it's just for show, basically stamped sheet metal, a good knife will go through it relatively easy.

The breastplate, if made of a proper type of steel that is of sufficient thickness, will stop some pistol rounds. Of course, if it's thick enough to stop any kind of bullet, it's probably going to be ridiculously heavy compared to what actual medieval plate armor weighed. Only the breastplate would be made that way, the rest would almost certainly be thinner and lighter so it wouldn't be impossible to wear day in and day out. Regardless, rifle rounds will still zip trough that armor like butter.

I'd wager it's made thin and light, but their uniform may possibly include a kevlar vest underneath.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:38:27 PM EDT
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$6800-9500 USD per unit, depends on material and treatment.
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$6800-9500 USD per unit, depends on material and treatment.
Do you have a link that says that?

Because my gut says that with the heritage of the shop, you should maybe add another zero to that.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 5:38:31 PM EDT
These guys need to read about the F35 procurement! Let your contract complete? Rookie mistake! Drag your feet for EVAH!
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:05:56 PM EDT
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These guys need to read about the F35 procurement! Let your contract complete? Rookie mistake! Drag your feet for EVAH!
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Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:14:25 PM EDT
I don't know shit about armor but it doesn't appear that any part of that is adjustable. I'll assume the Swiss Guard has a pretty stringent height-weight requirement.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:22:51 PM EDT
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I don't know shit about armor but it doesn't appear that any part of that is adjustable. I'll assume the Swiss Guard has a pretty stringent height-weight requirement.
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If you look at pictures you'll see guys wearing armour that doesn't fit them, either too large or too small.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:41:56 PM EDT
Craftsman still exist.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 6:45:46 PM EDT
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At one point in time it was.
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Because my gut says that with the heritage of the shop, you should maybe add another zero to that.
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$6800-9500 USD per unit, depends on material and treatment.
Do you have a link that says that?

Because my gut says that with the heritage of the shop, you should maybe add another zero to that.
6000 euros. A priest blogger helped raise it so a married corporal could get his own set fitted to him and engraved. Otherwise you get whatever kinda sorta fits.

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/03/action-item-lets-get-a-custom-breastplate-for-a-swiss-guard/

Father Z is also a gun guy
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:30:45 PM EDT
Very cool

I bet they will stop most pistol rounds just fine, and they are going to be pretty much stab/slash proof.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:33:39 PM EDT
There's also pics of part of the armory out on the Web. It's clear that they do not dispose of obsolete weapons.
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There are no obsolete weapons. Those cannon and swords will still do the job just fine and it appears that they are still maintained. I bet they'd disperse a riot better than anything produced today.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 7:38:49 PM EDT
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Wow, I'd pay a stupid amount for an authentic K31 from the Swiss Guard.
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Link Posted: 4/4/2017 8:36:16 PM EDT
They have completed 10 a year, but that does not mean those 10 are the only projects completed in those
years.  Likewise, the price might not represent their normal price structure. This project is great advertising
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 8:42:13 PM EDT
...The brothers’ workshop, where all kinds of hammers are piled high near a furnace and anvil, will continue to supply swords, locks, gates and other items to customers including theaters and private collectors.
And, for the coming years at least, he and his brother will produce the Guards’ distinctive crested helmets, he said. 


I thought they were going to be out of work.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 8:44:42 PM EDT
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Hokey religions and ancient are no match for a blaster at your side kid.
Link Posted: 4/4/2017 10:50:45 PM EDT
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Depends on the plate. If it's just for show, basically stamped sheet metal, a good knife will go through it relatively easy.

The breastplate, if made of a proper type of steel that is of sufficient thickness, will stop some pistol rounds. Of course, if it's thick enough to stop any kind of bullet, it's probably going to be ridiculously heavy compared to what actual medieval plate armor weighed. Only the breastplate would be made that way, the rest would almost certainly be thinner and lighter so it wouldn't be impossible to wear day in and day out. Regardless, rifle rounds will still zip trough that armor like butter.

I'd wager it's made thin and light, but their uniform may possibly include a kevlar vest underneath.
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I'm assuming that it is more than just stamped sheet metal, given that they went to a traditional blacksmith to get it.
Link Posted: 4/5/2017 11:34:06 PM EDT
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Probably more worried about RUST proof. 
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 8:24:06 PM EDT
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I know you're joking but they meticulously maintain all their equipment even the obsolete stuff. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:35:28 PM EDT
Bump for a cool story. 
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