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Posted: 9/4/2005 1:23:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 2:03:12 AM EDT by MouseBoy]
There are SO many good black people in this country.

I can't understand why.

Why can't I understand?

Because their LEADERS feed off their misery and have been VERY effective.

They have been preached to from birth, to hate the white man.

The only way to get ahead is reparations, equal oportunity ect..

There "leaders," aka Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton ect., have brainwashed them into thinking they are victims, victims of white people and white society. They have made a FORTUNE preaching this.

These people could have been productive citizens of this country. But NO.

Their leaders should be arrested immediately. You know who I'm talking about. How about a list?

These are POOR people that have been enslaved by their own people like Jesse Jackoff.

Great people with good advice like Bill Cosby are called "Uncle Toms" by Jesse Jackoff and his ilk.

Jesse and his ilk should be arrested immediately and jailed.


Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:28:04 AM EDT
jackson, farakhan, sharpton, sheila jackson-lee............

the most determined enemies of the black race
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:38:19 AM EDT
The thing to remember is that it is the Black "culture" that causes this NOT the color of skin. This is the culmination of the "thug" and "welfare" culture at it's best. If you took an isolated bunch of white people and taught them the "thug" culture ( i.e. turned them into a bunch of Eminems ) you would get EXACTLY the same behavior.

I feel terrible for the average black guy that goes to work every day, feeds his family and pays his taxes. This entire incident causes him to be looked down upon not for HIS decency but for the evil of OTHERS.

Thanks to the Democratic Party, State Welfare Agencies, men like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and all of the white Liberal Left for turning human beings into animals. Good job, you racist filth.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:38:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 1:43:11 AM EDT by Ghostface]
I'm sorry but none of these guys are my leaders!!!


And Julian Bond....what a nut job!


I agree with you though. Alot of my friends question how I can vote republican and I tell them they are really republicans. I explain it to them...

1. You don't believe in abortion.

2. You don't believe in big government and higher taxes.

3. You believe some should be put to death for their crimes.

4. You believe that you have the right to own a gun.


After I tell them these four things they get a confused look on their faces, I know they are really thinking now. It's just most of our parents came up in the 60's when things were tough,the Demorats were our friends in Washington. My parents don't hate white people and never taught to either. In the 80's my dad got laid off and he worked three bullshit jobs to keep us fed and cloth. My parents never took a dime in welfare or food stamps. I was taught only I would look out for me! Not to expect a hand out. My parents have always believed that Republicans were for the rich. It's hard to change peoples' minds. When I was first able to vote, I voted for Klinton just because my parents voted Democrat. Well after his four years in office I woke up and really watched things. I did'nt vote for him again! I did'nt vote for Kerry either.

I don't vote Republician across the board. When it comes to local elections I know more about the person and sometimes I have voted for a Democrat.

So no...they are not my leaders....
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:40:26 AM EDT
Racism is a billion dollar industry.
You think anyone wants it to change? Hell no. Theres too much money in racism to really push for it to end.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:41:16 AM EDT
they themselves are their own worst enemy
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:44:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
The thing to remember is that it is the Black "culture" that causes this NOT the color of skin. This is the culmination of the "thug" and "welfare" culture at it's best. If you took an isolated bunch of white people and taught them the "thug" culture ( i.e. turned them into a bunch of Eminems ) you would get EXACTLY the same behavior.

I feel terrible for the average black guy that goes to work every day, feeds his family and pays his taxes. This entire incident causes him to be looked down upon not for HIS decency but for the evil of OTHERS.

Thanks to the Democratic Party, State Welfare Agencies, men like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and all of the white Liberal Left for turning human beings into animals. Good job, you racist filth.



A big amen. It's not about race. Race has diddly to do with it. It's all about the culture.

Look at Mississippi. There are many blacks there too. Many of them are also poor. Yet they aren't rioting in the streets, raping people and shooting at rescuers. No. Why? It's not about skin color, it's about culture, attitudes and decency. Most of the blacks in Mississippi are hard working, decent people. They are not a part of the same thug culture so often seen in the major inner cities.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:52:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ghostface:
I'm sorry but none of these guys are my leaders!!!


And Julian Bond....what a nut job!


I agree with you though. Alot of my friends question how I can vote republican and I tell them they are really republicans. I explain it to them...

1. You don't believe in abortion.

2. You don't believe in big government and higher taxes.

3. You believe in the some should be put to death for their crimes.

4. You believe that you have the right to own a gun.


After I tell them these four things they get a confused look on their faces, I know they are really thinking now. It's just most of our parents came up in the 60's when things were tough and the Demorats were our friends in Washington. My parents don't hate white people and never tuaghts to either. My parents have always believed that Republicans were for the rich. It's hard to change peoples' minds. When I was first able to vote, I voted for Klinton just because my parents voted Democrat. Well after his four years in office I woke up and really watched things. I did'nt vote for him again! I did'nt vote for Kerry either.

I don't vote Republician across the board. When it comes to local elections I know more about the person and sometimes I have voted for a Democrate.

So no...they are not my leaders....



Good show, Ghostface! Keep the faith and be the best example you can. It pisses me off that you should even have to, but the Democratic Party ( modern ) and the Liberal Left have the same hatred for blacks that many members of our early Government had for the Native American's. For years they have been engaged in a war against black people and their ammunition is the same ammunition that they used to demolish the Native American....WELFARE and "idealistic" segragation. They have infiltrated our learning institutions, government and businesses creating "affirmative" action programs that "reward" folks not on their sucesses but on the color of their skin, thereby creating the very atmosphere they predicted. One of dissention and hatred. They pound into the black youth of this country that they are hated and that no one will ever give them a fair shake and that they are forver to be downtrodden. They create such a sense of anger and dispair that most of the youth can do nothing but live from day to day waiting for vengance against a mostly mythical enemy. All while wearing the face of "the black man's only "real" white friend". These people are evil and someday I hope to see them pay for their sins.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 1:56:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 2:00:16 AM EDT by MouseBoy]
Ghostface, please help black folks in this country to wake up by exposing these frauds, aka as Al Sharpton ect. They are destroying a whole proud people.

Any people that depends on the government will always be angry, broke and pissed. The government is undependable. Period. Always has been, always will. Very effective in response, worthless in planning. Not to say there is not many good people in .gov. Just the nature of the animal.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:30:19 AM EDT
The liberals and socialists have been taking over the Democratic party since Kennedy. It's gone from "Ask not what your country can do for you" to "We feel your pain, here's your check". I grew up in a Democrat household. Reagan changed my mind about Republicans and started changing my father's mind. After Klinton got in, I read a very informative, and funny, book called "The Way Things Ought to Be" and let my father read it. He's pretty much Republican now. It took 8 years of Klinton but I convinced a friend of mine in the same situation and he's been voting Republican since. Now if we could just wake his father up.

On another note, a co-worker (happens to be black) mentioned over breakfast this morning that he had finally got through to his wife in the affected area. He told her that if any strange black men come knocking on the door, to shoot their ass. He added he lives in a predominately white neighborhood and moved there to keep away from the gang element.

Skin color doesn't make a person good or bad. I've seen white people and people of other colors that were a waste of good air. Upbringing and character determine a lot about a person.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:34:36 AM EDT
So I guess the grand master of the KKK speaks for me

Pretty much the same thing as saying the black power folks are the leaders of blacks in this country.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:35:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:
jackson, farakhan, sharpton, sheila jackson-lee............

the most determined enemies of the black race



Work to keep the masses ingnorant, and then blow propoganda up their ass. It's true of the black leaders today, it's true of whitel leaders. Shit, it been that way for centuries. It's even easier to control the sheeple nowadays due to the media. Shit, the media reaches hundreds of millions of people a day with utter bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:41:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:47:50 AM EDT
Had an interesting discussion with a co-worker from Kenya yesterday. She said that she couldn't believe what she was seeing in NOLA. If she had to choose, that she would prefer to go back home to Kenya to where it was civilized rather than goto NOLA.

wganz

Link Posted: 9/4/2005 2:48:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 2:49:18 AM EDT by DoubleFeed]
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 3:10:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By Helldog40:
Whew..the title of this thread had me scared, but you guys seem to be keeping it civil...

You might want to edit the title though, it says "county" when you mean "Country"


Anyways:

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Racism is a billion dollar industry.
You think anyone wants it to change? Hell no. Theres too much money in racism to really push for it to end.



Specop makes an excellent point: Racism is an industry that has grown. Like poverty is also an industry....Think about this: what happens to all the kind souls who make their living distributing charity or administering to the needy if poverty were to "go away"?

The system always needs to be fed, whether it's welfare or corrections..the poor are just an easier fit into those slots than the rich.

It'sever and always about only ONE color....and that's green, like in money.

Hatred of the rich is an easy fire to fan. There pretty much is not an easier enemy to hate than the rich.
Tie "rich" to "white" and you have race warfare and class warfare in the same bucket.



Wow, sounds a lot like Marxism
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 3:30:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:
Had an interesting discussion with a co-worker from Kenya yesterday. She said that she couldn't believe what she was seeing in NOLA. If she had to choose, that she would prefer to go back home to Kenya to where it was civilized rather than goto NOLA.

wganz




Oddly, I, too, have a co-worker from Kenya.....he just shakes his head at the mention of NOLA. My friend from England ( who is also black ) just says "those bastahds!" and also shakes his head.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 3:35:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 3:38:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:
jackson, farakhan, sharpton, sheila jackson-lee............the most determined enemies of the black race



.......and 99.9% of the black race embraces them as their Messiah.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 3:51:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/4/2005 4:17:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Excellent observation… yes, it's the 'Thug Life' mentality that is the problem.

Over here in Britain, many black kids whose parents are fully integrated into and are propsperous in British society have adopted the 'Thug Life' they see on US Crime shows, MTV and documentaries… and sure enough, they fall back down the ladder and totally fuck their lives up.

I expect the same applies in the US as they found in Britain. Take a black kid and a white kid, if they both finish school with a good education they do just as well as each other, but a lot of black kids don't see the milage in school, drugs and crime equal 'easy money'.

ANdy



Change Black to Muslim.....................................................

No matter if its NWA or some Hate Spewing Iman the youth of today are being swayed by, and commiting serious acts that make the Protest marches of the 60's look like Kindergarten Recess.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 4:20:21 AM EDT
Yeah, but the good people that go to work every day don't get on TV.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 4:52:37 AM EDT
It's unfortunate that so many good "Americans" get unnoticed but the bad ones are making a certain demographic look bad.

There are many great African Americans. I do not like using that term because we are all Americans regardless of race, creed, color or religon. We are in the 21st century and the race card is being used as a crutch.

Max
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 5:00:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By maxell27:
It's unfortunate that so many good "Americans" get unnoticed but the bad ones are making a certain demographic look bad.

There are many great African Americans. I do not like using that term because we are all Americans regardless of race, creed, color or religon. We are in the 21st century and the race card is being used as a crutch.

Max



You bring up a good point. The only people I believe should be called African Americans are ones that were born in Africa and came here. Otherwise, I have to call myself an Irish, British, French, German Redneck, Bluecollar, Texan American. If you're born here, you're an American. If you move here and become a citizen, you're an American. You don't need any other labels.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 5:03:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ghostface:
I'm sorry but none of these guys are my leaders!!!


And Julian Bond....what a nut job!


I agree with you though. Alot of my friends question how I can vote republican and I tell them they are really republicans. I explain it to them...

1. You don't believe in abortion.

2. You don't believe in big government and higher taxes.

3. You believe some should be put to death for their crimes.

4. You believe that you have the right to own a gun.


After I tell them these four things they get a confused look on their faces, I know they are really thinking now. It's just most of our parents came up in the 60's when things were tough,the Demorats were our friends in Washington. My parents don't hate white people and never taught to either. In the 80's my dad got laid off and he worked three bullshit jobs to keep us fed and cloth. My parents never took a dime in welfare or food stamps. I was taught only I would look out for me! Not to expect a hand out. My parents have always believed that Republicans were for the rich. It's hard to change peoples' minds. When I was first able to vote, I voted for Klinton just because my parents voted Democrat. Well after his four years in office I woke up and really watched things. I did'nt vote for him again! I did'nt vote for Kerry either.

I don't vote Republician across the board. When it comes to local elections I know more about the person and sometimes I have voted for a Democrat.

So no...they are not my leaders....



I to am black worked all my life married for 23 years two sons that have never been in any problems.Never been on welfare and I vote for the best person for the job.I follow GOD'S WORD
NOT MAN'S.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 5:03:53 AM EDT
I have three black families living on my street in my little redneck suburbia.

You couldn't ask for better neighbors. As a matter of fact, I'm having to hustle to keep my home looking as good as their homes. I'd hate to be the guy responsible for knocking down the property values.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:05:15 AM EDT
Let me add another testimony: the most rednecked, muscle car lovin', down home, general, gun luvin' good ol' boy, American dude I have ever met is a black guy from Detroit.


This guy is whiter than I am.

....and that's the point: he has never and will never embrace the fact that his skin color means a damn....he knows it doesn't mean shit. He never bought the lie and I am damn glad to call him a friend.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:13:25 AM EDT
I take my hat off to any black person that has acheived in this country. They ought to be proud, considering the so called 'black leadership' has done more to supress them than any white person in at least 50 years.

Walter Williams comes to mind....an example of what conservative thought and practical action can yield.....it doesnt matter if you are black, white, or whatever.....intellect and appropriate action will result in success.

When I see or hear people that come across as racist, it makes me wonder jsut whose side THEY are on?

The way I see it, if you are an American, speak my language, and do your part to support our country....I dont care what you look like. After 9/11 I pretty much decided that if you respect my religion and my country, you are considered a friend. (as opposed to the enemy, which should be met with extreme prejudice)
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:15:35 AM EDT
County, country, whatever it takes...
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:28:57 AM EDT
IBTL
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:38:32 AM EDT
I picked up a black couple hitch-hiking a couple weeks ago. They were the nicest, most good-natured people that I have spoken with in a long time.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:39:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 9:39:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Oslow:
Yeah, but the good people that go to work every day don't get on TV.



Exactly. They don't bring in the same high ratings or sell newspapers either.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 10:16:21 AM EDT
Like it or not , racism will always exist , but it isn't
a one sided thing .

It will be perpetuated by those who are ignorant and
exploited by those who use it as a vehicle to fame
and fortune .

The fact is that anyone who wants to put forth the
effort will succeed in this country . Skin color is
only an issue for those who choose to make it one .

There will always be a class of society that
draws a disproportionate share of govt support and
private aid . It's a self fulfilling prophecy because
there will never be a shortage of people to fill
that role

Link Posted: 9/4/2005 10:21:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
I feel terrible for the average black guy that goes to work every day, feeds his family and pays his taxes. This entire incident causes him to be looked down upon not for HIS decency but for the evil of OTHERS. Thanks to the Democratic Party, State Welfare Agencies, men like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and all of the white Liberal Left for turning human beings into animals. Good job, you racist filth.

Yep, I feel bad for professional blacks who have their act together and taking care of their families. The looters are putting them in a negative light. Once again, let me recommend a good book on this topic.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 10:26:37 AM EDT
I'm impressed with how this thread is going and I have to agree strongly with the above. Looks like this will be that thread that doesn't degenerate to the point where it gets locked or thrown in the pit like all the others about this topic. I can say from my experience that it's all about behavior and not at all about skin color. Enough said
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:19:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 11:20:43 AM EDT by goodmedicine]

Blacks in this county are mostly NOT bad people.....


That's a given, and I won't let some, change my mind about it either.

GM
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:34:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:36:40 AM EDT
My best friend in grade school growing up was a black girl who was also named Melissa. We remained close friends from age 5 thru about 14, then we moved and lost touch.

Her mom listened to country music.

I was pretty much the only white friend she had, and I'm sure her black friends thought I was nuts and didn't fit in. My parents were kinda bigoted, but I would just say, "She's my friend--I could care less what color she is."

That's a lesson I learned back in grade school. There are good and bad people in every ethnic group.

I'm really feeling for the kids who have been hit by Katrina. It'll take a lot to overcome this, and I hope they're surrounded by strong, caring people to help them do it. These kids are part of the future of America.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 11:40:28 AM EDT
Hey, even though many might consider me a racist, because I will call a spade a spade (And no pun intended), I say thats bullshit.

Because in reality, I don't really even see color if it isn't warranted. I went to high school in a super white bread community. We had one kid in our class who was black. But you know, it never occurred to any of us that he was black. He didn't speak in ebonics, he didn't try to set himself as different from everyone else. He played football with me, we had classes together, we hung. And all of us considered him our classmate and friend, NOT our black classmate.

One of the greatest mentors in my life, a great man, Captain Ronald White, USA, was my company commander all through ROTC in college. I never considered that man than a great friend and mentor...never a black friend and mentor. I would walk through fire for that man.

There are a lot a GREAT PEOPLE in this country. Period. This disaster also shows us there are a lot of really disgusting, racist pieces of crap, who happen to be black, who are using this disaster to play the race card.

You see it all the time. I have never seen a group of people who allow their leaders, including political, community, entertainment and otherwise make them look like small, petty, dependent people wanting what "they are entitled to". I disgusts me. And if I was a hard working, good black person, I would be mortified to think that these people speak for my culture....
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 12:08:09 PM EDT
I would not want by accident of birth to be born and grow up in a black getto. It's like a wirlpool sucking you down into a lower financial class prison. Zero role models and all the Gangster thug crap on TV with ingrained disrespect for authority and education pulling at you all the time. It's not a black thing, it is poor explotation thing. The Democratic party and so called Black leaders have an industry that profiting by manipulating the poor and uneducated. They have the liberal press on their side asking everyone to give them a fish rather than teaching people how to fish for themselves.
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