I asked this originally in the ar15 section, but so far 52 views and no replies. Since the folks here seem more in tune with movies, in partcular war movies, I figure I'll probably get better responses here.

What was their setup?

Pre-M4 14.5" barrel with A2 carry handle and sights?

What version Aimpoint were they using on the handle?

Were the lights SureFire 660's?

Quoted: I asked this originally in the ar15 section, but so far 52 views and no replies. Since the folks here seem more in tune with movies, in partcular war movies, I figure I'll probably get better responses here. What was their setup? Pre-M4 14.5" barrel with A2 carry handle and sights? What version Aimpoint were they using on the handle? Were the lights SureFire 660's?

IIRC, they were 10.5 inch M733's (Colt Commando).  Not sure what version of Aimpoint, but they look just like the Aimpoints in current use in Iraq, it's possible they got that wrong, I'm not sure.  I'm unsure about the flashlights as well, but most of the stuff they used looked like current or semi-current (recent) issue stuff.  

I always wondered how effective those Aimpoints were mounted directly to the carry handle like that. I mean now we have flat tops and gooseneck mounts, so it's no issue. But Aimpoints directly on the handle would seem awfully far back.

Oh well, seems like those guys made pretty good use of them anyway.

I was just curious. I figure at some point I may try to put together a BHD style carbine and wanted to get it as close as possible to the real thing. I'd also like to have a Son Tay Raid style carbine also someday. I dunno why I like patterning guns after spefic time periods and events, but I just do.

Quoted: I always wondered how effective those Aimpoints were mounted directly to the carry handle like that. I mean now we have flat tops and gooseneck mounts, so it's no issue. But Aimpoints directly on the handle would seem awfully far back. Oh well, seems like those guys made pretty good use of them anyway. I was just curious. I figure at some point I may try to put together a BHD style carbine and wanted to get it as close as possible to the real thing. I'd also like to have a Son Tay Raid style carbine also someday. I dunno why I like patterning guns after spefic time periods and events, but I just do.

Hmm, well, on the flattops, where the Aimpoint would be if it were on the handle, wouldnt that be like T8?  Cuz if memory serves me right, we usually put them on T10 or T12?  Or about halfway between the middle and the very front....
But its usually user dependent, some guys have way forward, some way back.  

Most people tend to mount them out at the very end of the flat top, right next to the handguards. With the carry handle mounts I'm describing, the sight sits in the middle of the receiver, rather than the front.

Quoted: Most people tend to mount them out at the very end of the flat top, right next to the handguards. With the carry handle mounts I'm describing, the sight sits in the middle of the receiver, rather than the front.

Yeah, I understand.

I like to mount mine in the middle or a little closer back,  but thats me personally.


On my Army of One Special Operations poster, the Operators CCO is flush with the front of the rail on top, as close to the handguards as possible.


I dont see why it would be any less effective on the carry handle compared to the rail?  So, I dunno.... *shrugs*
Looks to be in T12 or T14 possibly...