
Posted: 6/4/2008 8:00:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/4/2008 8:03:47 AM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080604/ap_on_re_eu/un_food_crisis_summit
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Now, I agree that biofuel is crap. It is not really efficient at all, and there are plenty of other "pollutions" such as so much water being used to grow all of the food. However, since when did the USA become OBLIGED to be the bread basket of the world? Since when does the UN get to tell us how to run our agriculture? I don't mind helping other people out, but I don't like it when the UN or poor countries try tell us that it is our RESPONSIBILITY to provide them with food. |
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The UN can fuck off, but we've been the world's breadbasket since the 70s. We produce over 50% of all the raw food in the world. We've also given away cheap/free food to poor countries since WW2.
It's not inappropriate that the UN comes to us to discuss food prices. It's just wrong when they try to dictate our behaviors. |
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Is that any different than us trying to tell countries what to charge for oil? |
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes."
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We need a six month moratorium on ALL food exports from the US.
To be extended if the price of oil has not dropped to under $100 a barrel by then. Let the motherfuckers eat crude. ![]() |
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Well, the UN is neither a consumer or a producer, so yes it is different. |
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As stupid as corn based ethanol is, it has no bearing on the recent rice shortage. Weather conditions in Australia and other areas are as much to blame. Also, inefficient central planning by governments, not to mention thuggery in countries like Zimbabwe.
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Just one more word. If I run into any of you bums on a street corner, just let's pretend we never met before.
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How is it that the US goverment OBLIGES me to subsidise corn to the tune of 2$ a bussel? Can't make a living of corn farming, then quit like I'd have to if construction stopped paying the bills. And why am I forced to contribute to the huge dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico created by wide scale corn farming run off? (I'm not a big tree hugger, but killing of a huge part of an ecosystem the other people USED to be able to make a living off seems wrong). And what happens if rising food prices really do continue to destabalise parts of the world, how is that going to affect what's left of our manufacturing sector? It is said that a country is always 9 strait meals away from revolution. |
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For the motherfucking win!!!!! |
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"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
Robert A. Heinlein |
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The so-called rice shortages are largely a result of idiotic farm policies in the US, Japan and a couple of other Asian nations. Japan currently hold 2.3 MILLION tons of rice, most of it imported from the US. Japan stockpiled all that rice to keep it off the market in Japan. Now, they cannot resell it to other nations without the permission of the US. If Japan released it onto the world market, the price of rice would drop by about half. |
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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics... But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance." Murray Rothbard
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Just like "global warming", "biofuels" covers a lot more stuff than most (ignorant) people have any clue about.
Not all "biofuels" are made from plants, much less food crops. ![]() The smart money is betting on engineered bacteria (or possibly even new life forms we don't have a name for yet). They don't need sunlight, land area, or "growth seasons". |
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Yes, trade wars are oh so good for the economy. ![]() Once again, my sigline comes in handy. ![]() |
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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics... But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance." Murray Rothbard
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I didn't think the article was about hypothetical ways to create biofuels. |
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Right. It was about biofuels created from food crops, just like most people mean "man-made" when they say "global warming". |
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Garin cartels like archer daniels/ADM the only thing that creates famine in the 21st century.
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I'd rather our "food" get used to power our cars rather than to be given away to other nations.
When oil producing nations want to trade grains for oil then we can do business. |
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