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Posted: 1/10/2005 3:37:00 PM EDT
1 dead so far

Breaking
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 3:42:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 4:18:31 PM EDT
Saw video of it on the news tonight. BIG M'Fing mudslide. People running like crazy to get out of the way. They said 15 homes were destroyed.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:44:25 PM EDT
I'm about 15 miles south of La Conchita, go by there alot. The soil is like what is in Malibu along PCH that causes slides and brings down houses. All one has to do is look at the hillsides at any time during the year to see how the whole region is prone to erosion, and slides. It's too bad for the victims, a really neat little town near great beach but dangerous area to build a house in.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:46:49 PM EDT
They are up to 2 known dead now.
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143852,00.html
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 10:06:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 10:08:19 PM EDT
MillerSHO: Yep, I remember that, and also the news media has mentioned it on the 10-11pm news. We are almost out of the woods, another 24 hours, and we will be in a dry cycle.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 10:21:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2005 10:23:06 PM EDT by Skammy]
If you have seen the house in Glendale that is supposed to fall.. its on top of the hill I'm at the bottom of.. I'm not in the direction it will slide tho. They evacuated the people below where it will slide the FD said they are trying to save the house thats about to fall but its probably going to anyways..
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 10:40:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
The exact same area had a slide in 92 or 93.

Has anyone caught a clue yet?

Guess not.



the mudslide broke the massive retaining wall built after 92/93
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 11:01:28 PM EDT
Great location for the beach type. But I doubt they could get homeowners insurance for slide damage. Those "cliffs" have been breaking and sliding for millenia. You pays yer money you takes yer chances. They still hadn't finished all the litigation from the last few smaller slides.

I wouldn't mind having one for a "vacation" home, but no way it would be a primary residence, nor a place I'ld keep anything irreplaceable.

For those of you that might have driven the coast route in the past, La Conchita is where the banana plantation used to be.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 11:08:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2005 11:27:57 PM EDT by AR15fan]

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
The exact same area had a slide in 92 or 93.

Has anyone caught a clue yet?

Guess not.



No more so than those who live in disaster zones in florida, ohio, or thailand.


BTW; 3 dead now. Plus the 9 from the last couple days rain.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 2:37:11 AM EDT
Where's the UN disaster relief teams?

wganz

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:27:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:40:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:49:25 AM EDT
SoCal was due for more slides. Same with NorCal. It's like 1982 all over again. That was the worst year I ever saw as far as flooding and slides.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:51:31 AM EDT
enough mudslides and cali will be all flatland- NO MORE MUDSLIDES THEN!!!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:53:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
No more so than those who live in disaster zones in florida, ohio, or thailand.

yup. some people are as dumb as a load of bricks.

they will build in flood plains, in the shadow on a volcano, on earthquake fault lines and in hurricane alley.



Hurricanes can go anywhere. Where I live hadn't seen a hurricane pass through in 40 years...then we got 3 in a year.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:11:18 AM EDT
I was heading home to Santa Barbara in or 92/93. Due to very heavy rain SBA was closed so we got a rental at LAX and drove up PCH around 8/9 oclock at night .We actually saw the mud moving at La Concita. When we got there there was only a CHP and a white pick up in frount of us. The pickup got pushed into the metal guard rail by the mud .The CHP made the rescue of the driver and we were able turn around and detour I had to spend the night in Oaji. We called the trip from hell I guess that was a peek into the future.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:40:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
No more so than those who live in disaster zones in florida, ohio, or thailand.

yup. some people are as dumb as a load of bricks.

they will build in flood plains, in the shadow on a volcano, on earthquake fault lines and in hurricane alley.



dont forget Tornado alley.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:40:59 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:41:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Hurricanes can go anywhere.



Really? Iowa & Nevada get as many as Florida, SC, and the Gulf states?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:18:19 PM EDT
6 dead and 12 missing now.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:21:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Hurricanes can go anywhere.



Really? Iowa & Nevada get as many as Florida, SC, and the Gulf states?



So we should avoid living ANYWHERE within a hundred miles of the ocean then?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:29:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Garand1911:

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
The exact same area had a slide in 92 or 93.

Has anyone caught a clue yet?

Guess not.



the mudslide broke the massive retaining wall built after 92/93



Just heard on the news tonight that the people who live there, and suffered damage in the 92 slide, had to sign a waiver for the county, before they rebuilt, that absolved the county from any obligation or responsibility in the event of another mudslide.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:56:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Hurricanes can go anywhere.



Really? Iowa & Nevada get as many as Florida, SC, and the Gulf states?



So we should avoid living ANYWHERE within a hundred miles of the ocean then?


Of course not. But dont live in Florida or SC and act surprised if a hurricane blows through. That's as silly as being surprised by an earthquake in Cali.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:00:03 PM EDT
Have the people in India started taking up donations yet to send to California? Has the other governments in the world started to send disaster relief yet? Didn't think so.

Karl
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:00:13 PM EDT
Damn that George W. Bush!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:05:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Breacher:
Have the people in India started taking up donations yet to send to California?



I'm waiting for the UN to drop off my bottle water & rice. I'm sure it will be here any minute now.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:21:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
Damn that George W. Bush!



All this rain is due to global warming. If he had signed the Kyoto treaty this wouldn't be happening.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:41:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Hurricanes can go anywhere.



Really? Iowa & Nevada get as many as Florida, SC, and the Gulf states?



So we should avoid living ANYWHERE within a hundred miles of the ocean then?


Of course not. But dont live in Florida or SC and act surprised if a hurricane blows through. That's as silly as being surprised by an earthquake in Cali.



Surprised? Who was surprised?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:53:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:

Originally Posted By Breacher:
Have the people in India started taking up donations yet to send to California?



I'm waiting for the UN to drop off my bottle water & rice. I'm sure it will be here any minute now.



is it cold in hell?
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 1:16:15 PM EDT
Posted on Wed, Jan. 12, 2005



Calif. Storm Wrecks Homes and Roads

KEN RITTER

Associated Press


OVERTON, Nev. - The torrential storm that caused the deadly mudslide in California is leaving a path of destruction in other Western states, bringing flooding that has gobbled up homes and washed out roads.

The heaviest flooding was concentrated in the area where Nevada, Arizona and Utah meet. No serious injuries were reported, but one man was missing in Utah. A skier was missing for a third day in the deep snow of rugged western Colorado.

In California, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Wednesday surveyed the devastation caused by a huge mudslide that killed at least 10 people. The overall death toll in California from the storms is 28 people.

Evacuees started returning to many of the region's small towns on Wednesday, but the Muddy River was still rising at Overton, forcing more residents to leave their homes in the desert hamlet about 50 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

Overton resident Melanie Vallet said her family fled early Wednesday when water reached their front door.

"The family, the dogs, the chickens - everyone's safe," Vallet said.

Emergency officials sent 45 tons of sand, 2,000 sandbags and other assistance to the town. Officials of Clark County, which includes Las Vegas, had declared an emergency in response to the flooding.

Preliminary damage estimates were in the millions of dollars. Authorities estimated about 350 homes had been evacuated in Overton and other nearby communities.

In Arizona, some residents started returning home to the Beaver Dam area in the far northwestern corner of the state Wednesday as the sky cleared, but getting there was tricky.

An 80-foot stretch of the main road had been washed out and emergency crews were at work Wednesday grading a 22-mile-long detour along a dirt back road for the area's 1,400 residents. Electricity, phones, drinking water and sewers had been severed in parts of the community.

"I'm just glad that no one's been injured so far," said resident Linda Whittier, 55. She and her husband spent Tuesday night at a casino in nearby Mesquite, Nev., that donated rooms for flood refugees.

Harold Whittier, 58, said that before they left Beaver Dam he saw the high water destroy one house.

"I heard it go ka-boom, and the roof was floating," Harold Whittier said.

The flooding damaged or destroyed 22 homes in Beaver Dam and nearby Littlefield, said Jennifer McNally, a county health official.

The flooding had destroyed as many as 18 homes in southwestern Utah and made at least five bridges impassable, and some officials said damage could be more widespread than initially thought, said Brian Garrett, deputy director of the state Division of Emergency Services and Homeland Security.

In Utah, Washington County Sheriff Kirk Smith took a helicopter into the town of Gunlock on Wednesday to meet with residents who were isolated because both bridges to the town were washed out.

"We're trying to see what we can do for them," Smith said. "They're pretty shell-schocked."


Link Posted: 1/12/2005 1:26:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Skammy:
If you have seen the house in Glendale that is supposed to fall.. its on top of the hill I'm at the bottom of.. I'm not in the direction it will slide tho. They evacuated the people below where it will slide the FD said they are trying to save the house thats about to fall but its probably going to anyways..




I saw that house on the news last night. Stay safe man!
PS - nice neighborhood
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 2:26:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bostonirish67:
I was heading home to Santa Barbara in or 92/93. Due to very heavy rain SBA was closed so we got a rental at LAX and drove up PCH around 8/9 oclock at night .We actually saw the mud moving at La Concita. When we got there there was only a CHP and a white pick up in frount of us. The pickup got pushed into the metal guard rail by the mud .The CHP made the rescue of the driver and we were able turn around and detour I had to spend the night in Oaji. We called the trip from hell I guess that was a peek into the future.



I gotta call BS here little buddy. The last slide there did not come within, oh lets say 75 yards of the highway. I live very close to the area and go by there quite often. Not to mention that Ojai is a bit off the beaten path. (as in east about 10-15 miles) Ventura would have been a better location to spend the night. You may remember it that way but that is not what happened.
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