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Posted: 7/28/2008 5:20:29 PM EDT
Yup.
They charged the guy with assault 3, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Only problem: The officer was full of shit, and the other officer who watched the whole thing and didn't say a word was too concerned with ________________ to do the honorable thing. Oh, and they forgot that public events have lots of public video cameras. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkiyBVytRQ www.nypost.com/seven/07272008/news/regionalnews/cop_shoves_bicyclist_121984.htm
I know its not Friday, but hey...l |
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Well, the only interesting thing is that the officer really seemed to key on this guy. Maybe he was just sizing him up and decided it would work, but it could also have been that he had a radio (motorola is faster than a bike) to stop the guy. Only, I don't see an order to stop, nor hand gestures to stop, or anything like that. I see the officer doing everything he can to get in front of the bicyclist. ("He's coming right for us!") |
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It's things like that when you wish the crowd would just pull the officer down and beat the ever living shit out of him.
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"assault 3, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest"
Interestingly, the officer in this case should definitely be charged with the first two, and the resisting arrest should be replaced with falsifying a police report... I love the Internet though, it is the great equilizer, and this foolishness won't last long... |
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So, assault and filing a false report.
Good job officer. Good thing camera Chris was there to catch it all on tape. Before the advent of ubiquitous cameras at these events, I would have dismissed this dirty hippy's story as hyperbole or balderdash. Officers....watch your six. Little brother is out there. No longer can you assault and batter dirty hippies and minorities for shits and giggles. |
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if there is ever a civil war in the US, it will be between cops and pissed-off citizens. |
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That video pisses me off, I ride a bicycle and have alot to say about what that cop did but I will not go there. Its obvious the cyclist tries to avoid running into the officer, but that officer decided otherwise...
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The best thing is Officer Friendly has been on the job . . . wait for it . . . three weeks! -p. |
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I disagree. Vigorously. Then they'd be no better than him. Its his job to live on the edge of the social compact and keep people from descending to the chaos of a state of nature. That's what makes transgressions by officers so offensive. From the super wolves, sheep and sheepdogs essay:
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True enough until 'they' make it illegal to film police officers without permission. Simply a matter of time for that to happen. TRG |
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If only we'd had the Internet during the Civil Rights Era. |
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In before the:
"You weren't there" "You wouldn't understand" "The cameraman didn't catch all which transpired" "The Police NEVER lie on their arrest reports" |
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They already do make it "illegal" to film officers, by not letting the film be entered as evidence. No wait, we don't get to the point, because the Cop/DA/Judge won't let it get that far... Civil suit is fair game, but again, THEY won't let them admit the video...
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The bad apples give the majority of upstanding officers a bad name, and I agree. |
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Simple assault, sure. But I would like to see him go up on charges of assault under color of authority, a federal felony punishable by not more than a decade in prison. |
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Golly, officer, scared you'll end up on the losing end? |
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At least his father is sticking up for him.
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Judge Dredd complex runs strong in that family. I've harped on this here. The officer does not get to punish. That's not the deal. Apprehend and investigate and refer out the charges. This officer decided to punish. |
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Yes it is with no comment from you on the action of that officer. It was unnecessary, illegal and a brutal act. It shows the darkness in that man's heart. |
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I'll go out on a limb and say it was learned behavior. |
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You guys should go to one of those things they kick the shit out of your car and spit on you and your family.Because cars are evil.
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You wanna place bets on the outcome, as much as I would like to see what you typed come to fruition it is not in the cards. |
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+1 As for banning the filming of police officers on the job, that's one of the escalations of oppression that should give everybody pause. |
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You wanna place bets on the outcome, as much as I would like to see what you typed come to fruition it is not in the cards. Maybe not today, nor tomorrow, but it will come about... I think that people are just used to the "way things were", and this whole video camera, Internet thing will take some time to change this blatant and rampant miscarriage of justice... Maybe even a generation... But is definitely not healthy for us as a free society to continually turn a blind eye to such things. |
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I admit it looks bad but you do not know if this guy had just done something to warrant being arrested and that was the best way to stop him. Not enough information to say Officer "should definitely be charged with assault 3, disorderly conduct" |
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Not nearly enough info to prove that is what happened. |
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I know what you're saying, but watching an officer beat a man in the face with a collapsable baton behind my apartments when I was about 8 years old says otherwise... The officer didn't even call for backup, just beat the man in the face till it was bloody and he was crying and put him back in the patrol car... THIS STUFF IS RAMPANT AND MUST STOP... I'm sure the guy "had it coming" of course... |
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You know, if two officers had pointed at him and made any signal to stop, I'd agree with you. Also if the police report said ANYTHING about some other infraction. But the "crash" on camera is what the officer wrote up. And what the officer wrote up does not match the tape. Simple as that. |
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Did you miss this part? "A rookie cop - the son of a highly respected New York City detective - has been stripped of his badge and gun after being caught on video viciously attacking a bicyclist who was part of a Times Square demonstration. '" |
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He probably did. |
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How many "embellishments" like that happen that aren't found out?
Almost every cop knows how to write an ironclad report, whether thats what actually happened or not. |
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Oh yes. He surely must have deserved it. And just what did he do to deserve being assaulted? |
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I've seen a lot of traffic stops, booking tapes, and arrests (not on the internet). That look like an arrest to you? |
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Here's the background. The hippie was among a group of bicycle guys who assemble in cities across the country to protest the unfriendliness of cities to bikes. You know, how the bike lanes get used for parking,etc. Mostly they're just punks. They are insufferable assholes, all of them. But in NYC, they got a court ruling that group bike rides are not something that requires a permit before hand. So the mere presence of the kid as part of a group was not an arrestable offense. And being an asshole doesn't mean you deserve a hit like a hocky player. Police officers do not have the authority or right to decide what someone "deserves" and then to dole out their punishment. They decide whether there is probable cause to determine that a crime occurred, and if so to safely and lawfully apprehend the suspect and bring him before the courts and people for trial. |
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More and more I'm convinced that every citizen should always carry a video camera and film every encounter with law enforcement. |
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The he deserved it was a reply to my earlier post
And although the guy I witness being beat probably deserved it, it was wholly wrong for the officer to do that, or ANY OFFICER to violate ones civil rights without due process. IT IS TREASONOUS... |
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I know the public school system is just about shot, but what about that situation would meet the definition of a "civil war"? |
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I guess you missed the part where the Officer lied in his report:
Too bad that guy with the camera was there. |
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sum-rifle, I guess that is as close as you can come to admitting the officer was out of line and out of control. |
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