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Posted: 3/13/2005 10:33:41 AM EST
I know everyone loves their Kimber TLE and their SIG 226, but what are some really underated pistols.

I don't count the cz75 and Springfield XD, cause even though they are relative bargains, they are still regarded highly.

My vote goes to the SIG Pro. I've tried two and both shot as well as my 229 and had triggers that were as good if not better. There was a large local store that would have them on sale occasionally for $399, though you can often find them for $500-550.

What does your vote go to?
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:35:23 AM EST
Sig Pro is one.


Bersa.

Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:36:41 AM EST
taurus raging bull

no better way to compensate for lack of male endowment
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:37:48 AM EST
Luger.

(Hmmmm....second time today I've whipped that one out)
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:38:45 AM EST
S&W 908
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:39:24 AM EST
Taurus PT-92. I don't love it like my G19, but they are one hell of a pistol. Although large, they are tough, accurate, 100% reliable, and have better ergonomics that the Beretta. They can be had used in very good condition for $300, and are a bargain.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:50:33 AM EST
EAA Witness .45
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:52:37 AM EST
Bersa Thunder .380
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:53:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By triburst1:
Taurus PT-92. I don't love it like my G19, but they are one hell of a pistol. Although large, they are tough, accurate, 100% reliable, and have better ergonomics that the Beretta. They can be had used in very good condition for $300, and are a bargain.



+1 - mine has never failed me, after thousands of rounds no mechanical problems at all.
Pretty accurate, easy to shoot, and cheap to pick up these days. Worth having in the collection
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:53:39 AM EST
CZ.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:57:06 AM EST
A buddy of mine bought his wife a Bersa Thunder .380 and it has never once hiccupped in all the times we've taken it out shooting.

Another shooting buddy of mine has a Taurus PT92 and though I prefer my Beretta 92FS over it-and HE does as well-his PT92 is quite accurate and reliable.

+1 on BOTH.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:59:29 AM EST
S&W M19.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:03:48 AM EST
How about a ruger P89?
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:09:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:11:31 AM EST
P-35.

I'm old enough to remember when high-cap 9mm's were unique but damn! '35's point nice
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:11:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By gamesniper:
Luger.




P-38 is a pretty sweet design as well. Granted, given the limited mag capcaity (8 rounds of 9mm), it's not particularly practical by modern standards - or even compared to it's "competitor" the 1911, but I still think it has a great design.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:12:32 AM EST
Darn thing always runs. Feels like it's clunking right along as you shoot it. Had to send mine back to ruger because it wasn't very accurate, and they fixed that. Never had a problem functioning. 10 round mags, 15 factory and aftermarket (crap), 30 rounders, it always runs. Doesn't rust either.


Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...

Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:14:00 AM EST
Makarov.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:15:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By macro:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
Taurus PT-92. I don't love it like my G19, but they are one hell of a pistol. Although large, they are tough, accurate, 100% reliable, and have better ergonomics that the Beretta. They can be had used in very good condition for $300, and are a bargain.



+1 - mine has never failed me, after thousands of rounds no mechanical problems at all.
Pretty accurate, easy to shoot, and cheap to pick up these days. Worth having in the collection



+1 I love mine. It's a sound gun I used it in IPSC before I got my Glock. The only trouble I had ws with cheap USA hugh cap mags.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:16:01 AM EST
Taurus PT-92 and Model 66 revolver.

No complaints yet.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:16:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Happyshooter:
Darn thing always runs. Feels like it's clunking right along as you shoot it. Had to send mine back to ruger because it wasn't very accurate, and they fixed that. Never had a problem functioning. 10 round mags, 15 factory and aftermarket (crap), 30 rounders, it always runs. Doesn't rust either.


Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...




I will freely admit that I neither own nor have ever fired a ruger P89, so my opinion on the subject means nothing (I actually brought it up cause I am considering buying one) HOWEVER, it seems like this pistol gets bashed a lot because of Rugers policies and its looks, whereas owners rave about its reliability. I don't care what a gun looks like and if you dont like guns sold by companies with stupid anti-civillian policies, maybe you should get rid of your HK or Colt. I don't want to start a war over this but I was wondering if anyone has opionions on this pistol's function as opposed to looks or ruger's politics.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:17:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Makarov.



+1
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:17:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 11:19:10 AM EST by HoustonHusker]
I wonder if that new Taurus 24/7 or whatever it's called is underrated....anyone shot one yet?

Wow...just noticed post #556! Cool!

HH
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:20:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
EAA Witness .45



Another +1

Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:22:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...



I wish i lived where you do. I'd buy all the $150 P89 I could.

They feel like bricks, but everyone I have had contact with worked and worked flawlessly.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:44:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 11:47:07 AM EST by TomJefferson]
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 11:49:14 AM EST
Browning Hi-Power 9mm and 40 S&W
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:02:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
CZ.



+1 CZ 75
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:08:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By Treadhead:
P-35.

I'm old enough to remember when high-cap 9mm's were unique but damn! '35's point nice



That was my choice as well. People seem to either be fanatically devoted to the M1911 or into the modern pistols (Glock, SiG, Beretta ect). The High Power seems to get ignored and it's a shame. Best pointing pistols made and JMB's last design.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:12:30 PM EST
Ditto on the PT92/99, Star Firestar, norinco 1911A1.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:16:54 PM EST
Grendel P-30 Single acction 30 rds of 22magnum that fits flush with the magwell

somewhat cheesy construction especially magazines

I'd like to see this reintroduced more robust components ( less plastic) and steel magazines

Here's a pic
www.wapahani.com/addensap5.html
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:21:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By 357mag:

Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Makarov.



+1


Agreed! Big +2
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:28:24 PM EST
I remember when everyone said the CZ was the grail of pistol shooting and they were crazy expensive.

Then the wall came down and only one IPSC guy out of ten bought one before the AWB, and now no-one uses one.


They are nice.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:28:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By guns762:

Originally Posted By 357mag:

Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Makarov.



+1


Agreed! Big +2




I wouldn't call the Makarov unsung. There are whole websites for it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:29:27 PM EST
Tagfolio Witness 10mm
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:31:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 12:34:31 PM EST by ScrubJ]

Originally Posted By TomJefferson:

Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...



Speak for yourself their buddy, rather have a P89 or P95 over any third world anti-American built gun on the market. If politics was our deciding factors on guns most certainly we wouldn't buy any eastern block country guns or South American made guns or for that matter European guns.

Their one time mistaken political position since reversed doesn't change the fact that the guns are totaly reliable and excellent value for your dollar and made in the USA.

They are hands down the most unsung handguns on the market for regardless of US manufacture, very high reliability, excellent construction, and good acuracy people still prefer foriegn made guns over them.

One day our ecomomy is going to crash like an 18 wheeler with an asleep driver and we will park our Honda's, pull our Glocks out, and stick them in our mouth the whole time wondering WTF happened.

Tj



+1000

My Rugers function just as well as any other handgun in my safe. Most all of the others set me back at least twice as much as my Rugers.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:32:37 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 12:34:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Gets my vote. Bang for the buck, and made in the USA, though I do not agree with Rugers position on hi-cap mags.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 1:12:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 1:18:35 PM EST by bub75]

Originally Posted By 455SD:

Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...



I wish i lived where you do. I'd buy all the $150 P89 I could.

They feel like bricks, but everyone I have had contact with worked and worked flawlessly.



I agree wholeheartedly.

Say what you want about Ruger's politics, they build some fine guns. A little clunky, a WHOLE LOT overbuilt but great guns.

I originally bought my P89DC to test my reloads when I bought my reloader since they are so strong. In testing, Ruger cut the slide away below the ejection port of one P85 (which is pretty close to the P89, the P89 is an updated P85) and shot it. It shot everything they put through it just fine without noticable slide deformation. They also took a P85 and threaded the inside of the barrel for a plug. Said plug extended into the barrel to about 1" from a chambered bullet. They then shot it. I can't remember if it needed a new extractor or not but, after that, they replaced the barrel and shot it some more. It worked perfectly. How many Sigs, Berettas, CZs or what have you can do that?

I like my Ruger weapons. I have a 10/22, a MkII, a P89 and a GP100. I'd stake my life on ANY of them. Plenty accurate and reliable, even if the P89 doesn't feel as good in the hand as a lot of other weapons. I added a set of Hogue fingergroove grip panels and it feels a whole lot better than the factory grip panels, for me anyway.

I'll also +3 or +4 or whatever for the Makarov. DA trigger pull kinda sucks but accurate, reliable and built like a Kalashnikov, in other words it should last forever!

Bub

Edited to add: While I don't know if Ruger is selling hi-cap Mini-14 mags to the general public, they are selling 15rd 9mm pistol mags and, I think, 11 or 12rd .40 mags, whatever the .40 mag capacity is. They are even selling stainless ones, which I don't think they were before the ban, all I could find from Ruger then was blued. As soon as I get some spare $$$, I'm getting some of the stainless ones. We'll see what happens from Ruger since Bill Sr kicked off. IIRC, the Mini-14 mag thing was his brainchild.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 1:33:41 PM EST
Any Dan Wesson, Especially their new 1911's
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 1:38:17 PM EST
FEG PPK clone. For less that $200, it is very dependable and quite the bargain.

Possible hammer bite is the only problem I sometimes see.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 1:48:04 PM EST
IMI Baby Eagles
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 1:59:18 PM EST
What happens when you leave a browning and a sig in your gun safe and unprotected crossbreeding happens? A BDM!!!!


Bob
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 2:09:37 PM EST
If, by "pistol" you actually mean "handgun", then I say ALL the good quality DA revolvers are unsung mostly these days. If you mean "pistol" then the P35 and CZ75 get my vote. Excellent handguns, both with the P35 feeling better to me, but the CZ being more reliable out of the box.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 2:36:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 2:38:14 PM EST by AeroE]
Ain't sayin', it makes the price go up.

Otherwise, it's a Ruger auto.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 2:37:39 PM EST
Mk23 or P7
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 3:13:00 PM EST
I love my Walther P-5. Most accurate pistol I have ever owned. If you're including revolvers the S&W Military and Police and Colt Official Police are two classics that are overlooked.
The OP is especially great as you are getting a revolver with the same lock work as a Python at a fraction of the cost. And usually the well used specimens have the greatest triggers you'll ever find.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 3:47:01 PM EST
Jennings J-22, it is the bomb!
I haven't been without one, somewhere around the house/truck,since about '91.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 3:51:58 PM EST
+10 on the Rugers.......had a P89 I took to the academy..........shot flawlessly and was very accurate..........I am gonna look into the new P-345 .45 auto
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 3:55:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By barrysuperhawk:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
How about a ruger P89?



Around here, you couldnt give one of those away, a local shop had one priced at $150, and couldn't sell it. Even if you cna get past Ruger's "outlook", I still wouldnt have one.

+1 on the witness .45
+20 on the Taurus...



Based on what? The P89 is a damned rugged, reliable, and accurate pistol.

BTW, what is Ruger's "outlook". I want something documented, not some hearsay bullshit.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 3:57:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 3:58:36 PM EST by warlord]
I would vote for the out-of-production Star 30M. One of the least expensive guns in my collection, and never fails to go bang.
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