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Posted: 12/31/2005 1:21:06 PM EDT
Would love to know peoples opinions regarding the best state to live in based on:

-Gun rights and useability (conceiled carry, NFA weapons, 1000+ yard ranges, etc...)
-Freedom in general (few restrictions and few licences required to enjoy life)
-Resonably weather conditions (few or no natural disasters, no temperature extremes)
-Jobs (technology sector)
-Low taxes
-Reasonable cost of living
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:22:08 PM EDT
phoenix, AZ has everything except lack of weather extremes
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:22:58 PM EDT
You just gave a pretty good description of North Texas.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:23:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:27:02 PM EDT
As far as favorable statutes, jobs and weather... Texas.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:27:49 PM EDT
Lexington KY.

Purdy women, fast horses, Kaintucky burbon, and an easy trip to Knob Creek! Cain't ask fer much more.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:28:05 PM EDT
Not Illinois.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:28:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:28:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kombayotch:
Would love to know peoples opinions regarding the best state to live in based on:

-Gun rights and useability (conceiled carry, NFA weapons, 1000+ yard ranges, etc...)
-Freedom in general (few restrictions and few licences required to enjoy life)
-Resonably weather conditions (few or no natural disasters, no temperature extremes)
-Jobs (technology sector)
-Low taxes
-Reasonable cost of living



NH Everything else is perfect. I like ice-fishing so for me the weather is a plus.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:29:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 1:31:28 PM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By Kombayotch:
Would love to know peoples opinions regarding the best state to live in based on:

-Gun rights and useability (conceiled carry, NFA weapons, 1000+ yard ranges, etc...)



Colorado's not bad. CCW in your car without a permit all you want. No silly NFA restrictions. Shall-issue CCW plus we can open carry in non-socialist cities. No registration or restrictions on private party sales.


-Freedom in general (few restrictions and few licences required to enjoy life)


Not bad yet, but the Californicators in Denver and Boulder are working on it.


-Resonably weather conditions (few or no natural disasters, no temperature extremes)


Fairly mild, though unpredictable. 6 inches of snow in the morning and shorts and t-shirts at lunchtime.


-Jobs (technology sector)
-Low taxes



Got it.


-Reasonable cost of living


Getting bad here, though you can still find good deals. Back when I moved here I was astonished to find a starter home on 1/4 acre at $200k, but then again I was 24 years old making $75,000 a year. It's all relative.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:45:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
You just gave a pretty good description of North Texas.



You have got to be kidding. That's the only place I've ever been to that was worse than IL.
Your lakes are brown.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:47:04 PM EDT
Nevada, Zero income tax, low sales tax, low property tax.
Open carry even in liberal las vegas. No nfa restrictions. Right to carry
Wonderful weather
Great job market.
Cost of living is some what up, but so are paying jobs.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 1:50:38 PM EDT
Maine has the extremes and the high taxes. Jobs are hit or miss depending on where you live and what you do. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it kinda sucks here.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:00:30 PM EDT
Georgia.

Better gun laws than Texas.

Lots of tech jobs in metro Atl.

Meets all other criteria as well.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:06:16 PM EDT
From Dalhart to Del Rio and out El Paso way, well I'll be doin' fine on Houston time, and when the sun sets on the Copano Bay, well from way up where the Red River flows, on down to the Rio Grande, I was born a native Texican, and I'm proud to say that I am.

I like Texas, well ain't it fine here
I like to pick my guitar down at ole Luckenbach, and drink that shiner bock beer
Yeah I like Texas, man there ain't no doubt
Just listen to me, cause I know what I'm talkin' about


Well there's old dancehalls and little cafe's, where you can get a taste of the Lone Star State, strap on your boots and have yourself a laugh or two, well there's no line dancin' just straight romancin', that hill country love is what I fancy, where streams run clear and Lord the skies they are so blue.

It's a two day old burrito on a lukewarm beer to go, on the Sunday side of a road trip weekend, and Lordy I was feelin' so low, when somebody flipped on the jukebox, and I heard old Bob Wills say, "won't cha' stay all night stay a little longer", so I held on another day.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:17:38 PM EDT
WAREZ, MEXICO

By the time you get there, there won't be any f'in mexicans left.

It ain't Kalifornia -- I left there last April. Good riddins!!!!!

Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:26:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
Nevada, Zero income tax, low sales tax, low property tax.
Open carry even in liberal las vegas. No nfa restrictions. Right to carry
Wonderful weather
Great job market.
Cost of living is some what up, but so are paying jobs.



That looks like a winner to me.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:31:49 PM EDT
nooo NV is horrible! everyone go back to cali! really nevada is awsome to live in then again everyone is gonna say were ever they live is the best.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:34:49 PM EDT
Not NJ


WBK
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:54:33 PM EDT
Nj is #1 for sure. NO CCW, AWB, no nfa. Extremely high cost of living. High taxes. Atleast we have normal weather!

Leaving asap.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 4:56:02 PM EDT
VA...been here 6 months from NY and loving it!!!
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 5:01:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By texas1138:
From Dalhart to Del Rio and out El Paso way, well I'll be doin' fine on Houston time, and when the sun sets on the Copano Bay, well from way up where the Red River flows, on down to the Rio Grande, I was born a native Texican, and I'm proud to say that I am.

I like Texas, well ain't it fine here
I like to pick my guitar down at ole Luckenbach, and drink that shiner bock beer
Yeah I like Texas, man there ain't no doubt
Just listen to me, cause I know what I'm talkin' about


Well there's old dancehalls and little cafe's, where you can get a taste of the Lone Star State, strap on your boots and have yourself a laugh or two, well there's no line dancin' just straight romancin', that hill country love is what I fancy, where streams run clear and Lord the skies they are so blue.

It's a two day old burrito on a lukewarm beer to go, on the Sunday side of a road trip weekend, and Lordy I was feelin' so low, when somebody flipped on the jukebox, and I heard old Bob Wills say, "won't cha' stay all night stay a little longer", so I held on another day.



Is that Pat Green? I don't think anyone else has even heard of Del Rio
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 5:03:16 PM EDT
parts of alaska fit if you find a job there.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 5:10:38 PM EDT
How about Wyoming? I've never been but it seems like a great place!
SC is getting pretty crowded...
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 8:00:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 8:09:47 PM EDT
The state of blissful ignorant dependence....everythings free and theres no such thing as personal responsibility.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 8:13:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jcp84:

Originally Posted By texas1138:
From Dalhart to Del Rio and out El Paso way, well I'll be doin' fine on Houston time, and when the sun sets on the Copano Bay, well from way up where the Red River flows, on down to the Rio Grande, I was born a native Texican, and I'm proud to say that I am.

I like Texas, well ain't it fine here
I like to pick my guitar down at ole Luckenbach, and drink that shiner bock beer
Yeah I like Texas, man there ain't no doubt
Just listen to me, cause I know what I'm talkin' about


Well there's old dancehalls and little cafe's, where you can get a taste of the Lone Star State, strap on your boots and have yourself a laugh or two, well there's no line dancin' just straight romancin', that hill country love is what I fancy, where streams run clear and Lord the skies they are so blue.

It's a two day old burrito on a lukewarm beer to go, on the Sunday side of a road trip weekend, and Lordy I was feelin' so low, when somebody flipped on the jukebox, and I heard old Bob Wills say, "won't cha' stay all night stay a little longer", so I held on another day.



Is that Pat Green? I don't think anyone else has even heard of Del Rio



I spent several nights in Del Rio when I was working for Nortel and we were installing OC192 sites out in the desert. That was about 1999.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:08:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
Nevada, Zero income tax, low sales tax, low property tax.
Open carry even in liberal las vegas. No nfa restrictions. Right to carry
Wonderful weather
Great job market.
Cost of living is some what up, but so are paying jobs.



No income tax hock.gif

Sweet! so what's the catch?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:23:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
You just gave a pretty good description of North Texas.



Well, he certainly didn't describe SOUTH Texas, that's for sure.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:57:32 AM EDT
def not ny
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 8:17:13 AM EDT
Idaho
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 10:59:15 AM EDT
I really liked Wyoming but it was getting a little too crowded when I left in 1983.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:02:36 AM EDT
We need more conservatives in Florida. Especialy SE Florida.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:07:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
Nevada, Zero income tax, low sales tax, low property tax.
Open carry even in liberal las vegas. No nfa restrictions. Right to carry
Wonderful weather
Great job market.
Cost of living is some what up, but so are paying jobs.





Shush!,keep that Tone Down! This is a Down Turned State with nothing to offer Move along nothing to see here,,,,move along Cattle,MooMooMove,,,,,
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:26:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kombayotch:
Would love to know peoples opinions regarding the best state to live in based on:

-Gun rights and useability (conceiled carry, NFA weapons, 1000+ yard ranges, etc...)
-Freedom in general (few restrictions and few licences required to enjoy life)
-Resonably weather conditions (few or no natural disasters, no temperature extremes)
-Jobs (technology sector)
-Low taxes
-Reasonable cost of living



I offer Ohio:

* Shall-issue CCW, though the car carry part needs a little work (it's not bad, but other states have it better).
* No NFA restrictions other than federal.
* Plenty of places to shoot, home of Bulletfest.
* As with many states, freedom is legal povided you don't live in metro areas.
* Weather is nice, provided you don't live near Cleveland. Summers here in NW Ohio are a reasonable 80-90 deg, winter means a few inches of snow every now and then, and temperatures in the teens. Tornadoes occur semi-frequently, but it's NOTHING like living in tornado alley. Looking at topos and 100 yr flood plain data is sound advice before buying a home.
* If you couldn't guess, I have a tech job. Anyone who can't find work in the tech sector in this state is either not looking hard enough, or is unskilled. I make more here than I did in California.
* Taxes? Not bad, but you have to be REALLY careful about where you live. Property taxes vary widely throughout the state. Taxes range from practically non-existant to insane. Homework is the key, here.
* Reasonable cost of living? Hell yes! Again, stay out of metro areas. How does this grab you?
-6000 sq ft Victorian on an acre, $180,000.
- 2500 sq ft ranch. 60x40 Shop has heated floors, oil change pit. Walk out basement, ~10 years old, lots of custom touches, sits on an acre, etc. $150,000.
- Electricity is so cheap, that I heat my house with two electric radiators. $200/mo keeps my house at 75 deg in the winter. Summer electric bill is usually at $75 or so. I keep the place cold.
- Full coverage on two cars (2000 Dodge Neon, 05 Mustang GT) costs me $120/mo.
- Registering my cars cost me maybe $40 each.

Ohio can't be beat - if you stay out of metro areas. Laws and regulation is typically handled at a local level - very little is applied unilaterally across the state. Cities are mired in regulation, rural areas are free as can be. I shoot off my back porch here in Fulton county. 30 miles east in Lucas county, I'd get arrested for doing the same (and rightfully so, it's crowded). It all depends where you live.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:29:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BillSouthCarolina:
How about Wyoming? I've never been but it seems like a great place!
SC is getting pretty crowded...



Much as I love my home state of Colorado, there are places in Wyoming I'd move to in a heartbeat if:

A. I could afford it
B. I could make a living there.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:39:21 AM EDT
Was in WY for 4 years during my enlistment. Was a nice state, cept don't ever go to Cheyenne to see what the state is really like. Cheyenne is a flat, barren, boring town that has no pretty women, is nothing but bars, no work can be found, and is expensive for what it is. Would I ever go back there....HELL NO! Would I go to Laramie, or Jackson Hole if I could.......HELL YEA!!
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:43:07 AM EDT
North West Florida isn't bad if you don't mind hurricanes . Very conservative area!
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:44:28 AM EDT
West Virginia is great place to live and raise a family. Plenty of jobs at Walmart, Loews, Burger King, Micky D's , man what happened to my state?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:45:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Georgia.

Better gun laws than Texas.

Lots of tech jobs in metro Atl.

Meets all other criteria as well.



+ the women are good about doing their chores
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:50:21 AM EDT
Not sure about my state. I haven't been outside in years.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 12:16:26 PM EDT
Hawaii is not the place for you, me, or most other people on this forum.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 6:42:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Georgia.

Better gun laws than Texas.

Lots of tech jobs in metro Atl.

Meets all other criteria as well.



+ the women are good about doing their chores



OH NO! Not the runaway schizoid..........er..........I mean, bride.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 6:52:33 PM EDT
I,m still looking
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:02:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Studebaker:
Idaho



Come on, man! When you have a good thing going you don't tell other people about it!
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:04:57 PM EDT
TEXAS

HH
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:07:47 PM EDT
Move somewhere North of the Mason Dixon East of the Mississippi and Fight to change gun laws there!
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:25:09 AM EDT
If you dont mind the weather then NH is the place! North of Manchester as south of there is just an annex of Mass.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:28:18 AM EDT
Eastern Oregon
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:30:55 AM EDT
Colorado
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:48:48 AM EDT
VA

Open & CCW
One of the best states to start a business.
We have SEASONS!
Great hunting-fishing.
Great job opportunities.
Fine Womenfolk.

Came from MD, married a Virginian.....ain't leavin'!
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