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Posted: 1/20/2013 11:05:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:05:00 AM EDT by Lancelot]
Just picked up a zombie defense lower marked multi cal. Wanting to make this one a sniper rifle. What's the best round, and barrel to go with?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:41:40 AM EDT
.22LR

Scott
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:43:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:43:28 AM EDT
6.8 SPC

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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:44:27 AM EDT
Haha, already have a 15-22.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:44:30 AM EDT
Uh oh. He said sniper rifle.

Waiting for the storm to hit...

Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:44:59 AM EDT
Personally I would do a 6.5 Grendel!
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:47:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Boxer745:
Personally I would do a 6.5 Grendel!


+1
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:48:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Boxer745:
Personally I would do a 6.5 Grendel!

For a purpose built longer range AR 15 platform rifle I would use 6.5 Grendel. To reach out a little farther you could move to a 6.5 Creedmore in the AR10 pattern rifles.

FWIW: I've got 6.8's but for longer range work I think the 6.5 is better.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 10:49:47 AM EDT
.308 Winchester

I can feel the storm getting closer.


Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:00:40 AM EDT
What storm we talking about?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:02:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vkambull:
Just picked up a zombie defense lower marked multi cal. Wanting to make this one a sniper rifle. What's the best round, and barrel to go with?

You need to fill in a few blanks.

What is the minimum distance of engagement? (i.e. sledgehammer to kill a fly ... a .50 BMG is a popular caliber but is a completely ridiculous choice for a 50 yard engagement distance)

What is the maximum distance of engagement? (i.e. there are may lower calibers suitable out to 500 yards but completely unsuitable for 800 yards)

What are the rules of engagement? (i.e. Is this a brain stem shot being made only under tight authorization? Or is this COD fantasy land where multiple .50 BMG's through walls with collateral deaths is OK?)

How much money are you willing to spend for the complete set of tools? (Rifle will easily top $ 2,000 and can go as high as $ 12,000 under old pricing. A suitable scope is going to be well over $ 1,000. Ballistic calculator, wind meter. laser distance meter, spotting scope ... and let's not even bother with what NOD's would cost.)

How much money are you willing to spend on training and practice to maintain the skills required? (Rule of thumb, 50 "scored" rounds for each planned engagement distance per week. Training and follow-up is an easy $3,000/year)

How long are you willing to wait to acquire the parts/rifle to fulfill this mission? (The really good barrels, rifles, etc are now on two year wait lists and those are likely optimistic estimates.)
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:02:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:04:11 AM EDT by ziarifleman]
Originally Posted By vkambull:
What storm we talking about?


Using the term "sniper" as you have is going to generate some attention.

It's both vague and incorrect as you've presented it.

ETA: The 5.56 is a great round. The Mk 12 style rifles are the most versatile of all AR variants.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:04:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:07:10 AM EDT by iNeXile556]

Originally Posted By vkambull:
What storm we talking about?

Sniper rifles are purposed tools for killing people.
We are a sporting community.
Go troll elsewhere.


Storm on!
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:06:17 AM EDT
IN!!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:06:28 AM EDT
Alright! We're in GD now, lets get this train going!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:06:45 AM EDT
260 rem, or if not 260, 308 win.

Hope that lower was an ar10... ;)
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:07:13 AM EDT
.50 BMG
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:07:18 AM EDT
9mm
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:07:50 AM EDT
Dude... You hunt snipes with a burlap bag, not a rifle.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:07:50 AM EDT
Wasn't trolling I just meant a good long distance round, lighten up a little bit.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:08:33 AM EDT
.223LR
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:08:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By iNeXile556:

Originally Posted By vkambull:
What storm we talking about?

Sniper rifles are purposed tools for killing people.
We are a sporting community.
Go troll elsewhere.


Storm on!


Fuck, I thought I was on TheHighRoad for a minute there.

Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:09:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Dude... You hunt snipes with a burlap bag, not a rifle.


Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:09:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By vkambull:
Wasn't trolling I just meant a good long distance round, lighten up a little bit.


The 5.56 with 77 gr HPBT bullets.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:10:01 AM EDT
Are you a sniper? Then it will never be a sniper rifle.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:10:27 AM EDT
.410/.45
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:12:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vkambull:
Wasn't trolling I just meant a good long distance round, lighten up a little bit.

Don't even try to reason just learn the hard way. Also no matter what gun you get it's going to be difficult and expensive to learn everything a "Precision" shooter knows.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:12:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By vkambull:
Wasn't trolling I just meant a good long distance round, lighten up a little bit.


The 5.56 with 77 gr HPBT bullets.


Yep roll your own

77 gr Sierra matchking HPBT and 23.5 gr Varget works well for me
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:12:36 AM EDT
Mk262
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:12:50 AM EDT
Sniper rifles are purposed tools for killing people.


Replace "people" in the quote with "snipe".

Sniper rifles are for bird hunting.

Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:14:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 0612Devil:
Are you a sniper? Then it will never be a sniper rifle.


I used auctionsniper on ebay, I'm a sniper.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:15:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Alright! We're in GD now, lets get this train going!!


the experts will be along shortly

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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:15:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:15:25 AM EDT by jukeboxx13]
Fuck I posted my Coffee nuts thread in the wrong place and get it locked. Sorry system.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:15:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vkambull:
Wasn't trolling I just meant a good long distance round, lighten up a little bit.

Then you want a long range precision rifle. There is nothing better then the .416 Barrett, supersonic to 2500yds.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:16:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:18:34 AM EDT by Paul]
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:17:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:17:38 AM EDT by Aeain]
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:17:38 AM EDT
I'd get some of those "heat seeking" rounds that bitch was talking about.

Make sure you have plenty of high caliber clips.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:17:41 AM EDT
50BMG, or if you want more of a multi shot, accuracy wise I don't think you can beat a 6.5 grendel, out of an AR15 platform.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:18:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:21:07 AM EDT by ArimoDave]
Originally Posted By vkambull:
Wasn't trolling I just meant a good long distance round, lighten up a little bit.


Define long distance. If you go by the traditional definitions, 500 and 600 yd are mid range. Long distance covered 800 to 1200 yds. Now if you go by some modern definitions, long range can include up to 1 mile or more.

For the traditional definition, any .30, 7mm, or 6.5mm will do the job pretty well. If you are going to the newer definition, then the .338 Lapua, .416 Barrett, or 50 BMG are your better choices.


ETA: If your definition of long range is 600 yds or less, then the 5.56 or .223 with 77gn bullets would be fine.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:18:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vkambull:
Just picked up a zombie defense lower marked multi cal. Wanting to make this one a sniper rifle hunting rifle. What's the best round, and barrel to go with?

FIFY
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:20:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Boxer745:
Personally I would do a 6.5 Grendel!


Yup. Planning a 6.5, 18" barrel DMR type build someday when/if prices and availability of anything gun related stops herping and derping.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:23:23 AM EDT
best to choose a better rifle for sniping. like a .308 .338 .300 win mag or 30.06. or even 7.62X54R IMO a precision rifle is its own animal really. and mid powered rifles such as the .223, 5.56, 7.62 X39 etc don't cut it really.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:23:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By iNeXile556:

Originally Posted By vkambull:
What storm we talking about?

Sniper rifles are purposed tools for killing people.
We are a sporting community.
Go troll elsewhere.


Storm on!

I'm in no sporting community...I'm in a 'redress if the government becomes tyrannical' community....but we're right down the road.

OP, a heavier projectile matched to a barrel with the correct twist to spin it up is the easiest way to gain accuracy and distance. On an AR-15 platform there are several caliber options each with numerous available projectiles.

There's a bunch more info in the AR-15 and Armory sub-forums.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:25:31 AM EDT
Conventional wisdom says shoot the heaviest bullet you can with the best BC for long range accuracy.

I'm going to tell you something else. If you are looking for a super accurate rifle to shoot 600 yards and under, go light and quick. I have an upper with a 20 inch bull barrel, 1/10 twist that loves 45-52 grain bullets. The ground hog population in my AO can attest to it's accuracy, and shooting steel at 600 is a blast. It's flat shooting enough, and quick enough that wind doesnt do much at that range.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:25:42 AM EDT
71 posts.

Right.





Don't feed the troll. It only encourages them to come back and before long you've bought a litter box and
are setting out bowls of milk and tuna in your kitchen every day for the little bastard.

Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:26:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By vkambull:
What storm we talking about?


If you were a sniper then you wouldn't have to ask.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:26:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Boxer745:
Personally I would do a 6.5 Grendel!


For a standard AR lower...^^^ this. Mine is 5.56, my fav load is 75 gr TAP, but doing a 6.5 after the panic buying dies down.

You kinda walk into this mess when you said "sniper"...
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:26:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/20/2013 11:27:04 AM EDT by Keigan]
Get the one that hits the intended target without any skills - that should do fine.

When in doubt, grab .308.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:26:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:
Originally Posted By 0612Devil:
Are you a sniper? Then it will never be a sniper rifle.


I used auctionsniper on ebay, I'm a sniper.


In that case, this is your round:

Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:27:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By trs717:
.22LR

Scott


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