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Posted: 9/19/2009 12:34:36 PM EST
Inspired by the Buffalo in the yard thread. Say you happen to randomly encounter a rampaging Buffalo, what round would be best to take it out? We'll assume that just about any pistol caliber is out, so we'll say that you followed the late Colonel Coopers advice, and never put down your Rifle, so what caliber are you using?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:38:26 PM EST
470 Nitro Express


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:39:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
470 Nitro Express



.45-70 might break through his skull.

You better hope it does.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:40:17 PM EST
30MM from a GAU8
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:40:30 PM EST
50 bmg out of a semi auto
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:40:50 PM EST
.50BMG or 20mm. Gimme a M2 and the .50 will do just fine.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:42:53 PM EST
458 Lott.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:43:12 PM EST
50-120
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:43:36 PM EST


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:44:08 PM EST
Tomahawk land attack missile
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:46:16 PM EST
.45-70: killing buffalo since 1873
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:46:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 12:48:42 PM EST by The_Reaper]
I'm sure many have been taken with a 45-70

But I'd suspect the most reliable out of those listed would be the 700 nitro.

Not many 50 BMG firearms are really shoulder fireable.

EDIT: for readily available... why not a 12ga with some hard cast slugs?

The Dixie Terminator slug was designed for dangerous Alaskan game.

And, who doesn't already own at least one Remington 870?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:47:14 PM EST
I saw a pic on Glocktalk about 4-5 years ago of a guy that killed a Buffalo with a Glock 20 (10mm)
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:48:18 PM EST
Buffalo or Bison?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:48:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 12:48:59 PM EST by DragoMuseveni]
Originally Posted By DieselEngineer:
.45-70: killing buffalo since 1873


This killed more buffalo than any other round created.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:48:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
I saw a pic on Glocktalk about 4-5 years ago of a guy that killed a Buffalo with a Glock 20 (10mm)


I read that article too.

He pulled the pin.






Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:48:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
I saw a pic on Glocktalk about 4-5 years ago of a guy that killed a Buffalo with a Glock 20 (10mm)


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:51:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By mcg3686:
50 bmg out of a semi auto

I'd feel pretty comfy with my M82A1CQ.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:51:14 PM EST
500 S&W mag
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:52:14 PM EST
teach the buffalo to shoot a glock .... BOOM!!!

is the Buffalo on a treadmill?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:52:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By M4Real:

Originally Posted By mcg3686:
50 bmg out of a semi auto

I'd feel pretty comfy with my M82A1CQ.


shooting Raufoss Mk211

/thread
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:55:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mojo_Jojo:
Buffalo or Bison?

I assume real cape buffalo.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 12:59:29 PM EST
The panacea for any North American game, the .375 H and H.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:00:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 1:01:20 PM EST by pcsutton]
LAW rocket ....oh....not water buffalos
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:01:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 1:04:21 PM EST by WGPKlaus]
Originally Posted By pcsutton:
LAW rocket


Not strong enough, however a TOW should do the trick!


any 120mm KE round would also work!
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:01:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By DieselEngineer:
.45-70: killing buffalo since 1873

This.


Poll failure for not including .45-70.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:02:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 1:04:27 PM EST by Nightdriver]
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:02:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 1:12:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
How do you stop a charging buffalo?


Take away his Visa card.





Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:12:27 PM EST
.375 H&H Mag.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:15:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By 20iner:

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
470 Nitro Express



.45-70 might break through his skull.

You better hope it does.


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:20:58 PM EST

Peter's top picks for buffalo: .375 H&H, .416 Remington and Rigby, and .450 Dakota.

At 33 years old, professional hunter Peter Barnard has done a heck of a lot of hunting. The Zimbabwe native has been a PH for 13 years, these days plying his trade for Tanzania Adventures Inc. In his career he's amassed some impressive numbers. He's guided clients to 160 Cape buffalo, a dozen lions, 40 leopards and a like number of elephants, and 50 of the new member of the Big Five: the hippo.

When Peter says this, he isn't bragging. For one thing, I made him tell me––over drinks one night after we'd finished a day of chasing Cape buffalo in the Rungwa Ikili area of Tanzania back in September. What these numbers really say is that Peter is undeniably qualified to pontificate on that most favorite of campfire topics on any continent where hunters gather: What are the best calibers for dangerous game?

Obviously, the man really knows his buffalo, so we'll start there.

"The .375 H&H is adequate, as you've seen [my wife and I had killed a buffalo apiece at that point, both animals falling to the Holland & Holland]. On the other end, you can use a .700 Nitro––but if you hit him in the guts, it won't matter. Big calibers don't overcome poor shooting.

"Actually, I like to see clients use something slightly bigger than the .375. The .450 Dakota has really impressed me a lot. The .416s are good, but once people move up to things like the .458 Lott, then I begin to see a lot of flinching.

"I'm not a big fan of the faster calibers, like the .33-378 Weatherby. Mostly that's because of the bullets; only the best can hold up to that kind of velocity at close range and on game as tough as buffalo. With top quality bullets I guess it's okay, but I don't see the advantage.

"The .458 Winchester Magnum is underrated because the original bullets and powders weren't up to the task.. These days the bullets are so good you can shoot the Winchester .458 out to 150 yards and kill buffalo.

Peter's top picks for buffalo: .375 H&H, .416 Remington and Rigby, and .450 Dakota.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:21:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By Trapshooter12:
50-120




I have a .50-90 Sharps in an Encore.
2000 fps with a 525 grain hard cast bullet.

That ought to work.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:23:07 PM EST
american buffalo: 45-70

water buffalo: AT LEAST a 375 H&H
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:23:34 PM EST
Nothing less than a 44 Magnum.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:24:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By Small_Arms_Collector:
Inspired by the Buffalo in the yard thread. Say you happen to randomly encounter a rampaging Buffalo, what round would be best to take it out? We'll assume that just about any pistol caliber is out, so we'll say that you followed the late Colonel Coopers advice, and never put down your Rifle, so what caliber are you using?

12GA slugs...
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:30:03 PM EST
45/70 with some garret loads or buffalo bore in 430 or 500gr.
As said before it has taken many buffalo with black powder.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:31:44 PM EST
Am I the only Jack O'Connor fan?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:36:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
I saw a pic on Glocktalk about 4-5 years ago of a guy that killed a Buffalo with a Glock 20 (10mm)


More balls then me
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:36:38 PM EST
Poachers in Africa use FALs to shoot elephants, I'm pretty sure that would work with a buffalo as well.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:39:21 PM EST
Let me guess the correct answer, the one you can shoot the best with a solid bullet up front.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:41:14 PM EST
RPG-7
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:43:02 PM EST
If you can't get the job done with a .30-06, then you need to go back to punching paper.......
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:43:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:44:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:44:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By DieselEngineer:
.45-70: killing buffalo since 1873



That was my first thought before reading the choices.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:54:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 2:57:30 PM EST by SgtSwat]
I hear those .577 T-rex pack a little kick.

Don't know how to post the youtube vid.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:06:27 PM EST
Plasma rifle in the 40 watt range...............
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:07:40 PM EST
.45-70
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:11:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By 20iner:

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
470 Nitro Express



.45-70 might break through his skull.

You better hope it does.


Another vote for .45-70. Potent yet managable.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 3:13:42 PM EST
Nuke them from the orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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