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Posted: 1/4/2005 1:19:34 PM EDT
I haven't read any of his books and want to start one. Which one is the best? Which was the first Jack Ryan one? Any suggestions?
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:20:30 PM EDT
First Jack Ryan = Hunt for Red October.


Best = Without Remorse (Of course that is my opinion)
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:21:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ghengiskhabb:
First Jack Ryan = Hunt for Red October.


Best = Without Remorse (Of course that is my opinion)





Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:21:51 PM EDT
The First and the only "Hunt for Red October"
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:24:10 PM EDT
I'm a fan of red storn rising and the sum of all fears personally

but the hunt for red october is very good as well
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:25:07 PM EDT
Red Storm Rising
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:37:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 1:39:05 PM EDT by raven]
Outstanding

Red October
Red Storm Rising
Sum of All Fears

I liked

Patriot Games
Rainbow Six

I thought was OK

Without Remorse
Cardinal of the Kremlin
Executive Orders
Debt of Honor
Clear and Present Danger
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:38:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Moose:
Red Storm Rising



By far the best

IMO
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:40:16 PM EDT
"Teeth of the Tiger" was a good, interesting read as well.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:42:48 PM EDT
Red Storm Rising
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:43:41 PM EDT
Red Storm Rising, by far his best work. Too bad it's now a little outdated.

Not to thread hijack, but if you liked RSR, you may want to check out Larry Bond's Red Phoenix, about the invasion of South Korea by the North from sometime back in the 90's. Things haven't changed so much in Korea that the premise is completely outdated...

Alpine
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:44:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By newtoma:
Red Storm Rising


Though it's now really dated,
I'm about to read it again.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:52:00 PM EDT
Rainbow Six

of course it will never make it to the big screen without a major rewrite,

it's about greenies that want to destroy all human life

great book
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:52:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Alpine:
Red Storm Rising, by far his best work. Too bad it's now a little outdated.



Absolutely!

I used to like the Jack Ryan books, but that got REAL old about mid way through Rainbow Six.



Not to thread hijack, but if you liked RSR, you may want to check out Larry Bond's Red Phoenix, about the invasion of South Korea by the North from sometime back in the 90's. Things haven't changed so much in Korea that the premise is completely outdated...

Alpine



Yup, Bond is also very good.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 1:54:17 PM EDT
Start at the beginning- most of his books (probably all but Red Storm Rising, Without Remorse and Rainbow Six) have history to them... That's not to say you couldn't read them separately but I'd go to his website and start with the oldest and work forward.

The good news is you'll be able to find them all pretty easily if you have a used book store near you to save some $$$.

BTW anyone heard when his next book will be out? I skipped the one with his son in it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:21:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cyanide:

Originally Posted By Moose:
Red Storm Rising



By far the best

IMO

My god, I agree with Cyanide about something!
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:23:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JarheadChiro:

Originally Posted By ghengiskhabb:
First Jack Ryan = Hunt for Red October.


Best = Without Remorse (Of course that is my opinion)








Agreed.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:26:52 PM EDT
I lost a couple night's sleep with that book.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:32:50 PM EDT
Hunt for Red October
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:34:33 PM EDT
Red Storm Rising and Rainbow Six
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:34:41 PM EDT
+1
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:35:00 PM EDT
The Hunt For Red October

With Clancy, his stuff is either really awesome, or downright mind-numbing. I seem to get the mind-numbing ones. Red October is the only one I read all the way through and would read again, if I could find my copy.

I liked some of the other Jack Ryan movies, so I should see about picking up the books sometime.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:38:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
The Hunt For Red October
I liked some of the other Jack Ryan movies, so I should see about picking up the books sometime.


I haven't seen the one with Ben Afflek, but the movies are pale comparissons to the books. Clancy was about to take his name off of Clear and Present Danger, it was so f'd up.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:39:52 PM EDT
Red Storm Rising. Moreso than his other books, he has a tremendous number of characters whose actions, though far apart and seemingly unrelated in the beginning, intertwine in the end. Just a masterfully written story.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:42:06 PM EDT
Without Remorse, I like the character Clark the best.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:52:05 PM EDT
I have to go with Without Remorse as well. Now if only he would break down and write a book about the old guys. He has hinted at some interesting exploits in their pasts as well.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:53:38 PM EDT
whoever here like's red storm rising, they need to check out larry bond because he wrote that book with tom clancy

bonds best books are: red phoniex, vortex, and cauldron
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 2:55:01 PM EDT
The Bourne Identity and Supremecy are really good books by Robert Ludlum. I have seen The Bourne Supremecy movie and it kinda sucked, but the original books are awesome.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 3:01:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cyanide:

Originally Posted By Moose:
Red Storm Rising



By far the best

IMO



I'm going to go shoot myself now.

Cyanide and I agree on something
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 3:10:06 PM EDT
I'd have to say Red Storm Rising and Without Remorse tie for best. Some of his newer stuff kind of falls off a little, but Rainbow Six was still really good. I didn't think Teeth of the Tiger was such a great read, but the concept was interesting.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 3:22:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I'm a fan of red storn rising and the sum of all fears personally

but the hunt for red october is very good as well



+1

I also thoroughly enjoyed R6 more than the others (though I enjoy them all)
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 3:27:22 PM EDT
+1.... absolutely his best

Originally Posted By Moose:
Red Storm Rising

Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:42:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Will220:
+1.... absolutely his best

Originally Posted By Moose:
Red Storm Rising




Seems to be the consensus.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:45:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M11293:
The Bourne Identity and Supremecy are really good books by Robert Ludlum. I have seen The Bourne Supremecy movie and it kinda sucked, but the original books are awesome.





Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:46:09 PM EDT
IMHO The Cardinal of the Kremlin is the best written.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:47:05 PM EDT
With Out Remorse is by far Tom Clancy's best book -WOR and RS are connected to the jack ryan series sort of
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:48:24 PM EDT
Gotta be Without Remorse.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:56:32 PM EDT
I am currently reading a non-fiction work of his. It is a complete walkthrough and history of the most powerful weapon system in the world: the CVBG, also known as the aircraft carrier battle group. The book is called "CARRIER".
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:57:35 PM EDT
Rainbow Six and Shadow Warriors.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 4:58:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
With Out Remorse is by far Tom Clancy's best book -WOR and RS are connected to the jack ryan series sort of


Don't forget the latest one, either. It too only has Jack in a bit role.

FWIW, I think the story has played out. I wish he would move on to something new. There wasn't much left to do with Jack once he became president, and now that he's finished that up it's pretty much a dead end.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:04:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
Start at the beginning- most of his books (probably all but Red Storm Rising, Without Remorse and Rainbow Six) have history to them... That's not to say you couldn't read them separately but I'd go to his website and start with the oldest and work forward.

The good news is you'll be able to find them all pretty easily if you have a used book store near you to save some $$$.

BTW anyone heard when his next book will be out? I skipped the one with his son in it.


I second that Q

Mr.Green,
Without Remorse and Red Storm if I had to absolutely pick one..........or two or three Sum of All Fears uh....well, just read them all begining with Red October
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:06:13 PM EDT
Red Storm Rising
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:07:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I'm a fan of red storn rising and the sum of all fears personally

but the hunt for red october is very good as well



+1

My thoughts exactly.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:11:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:
IMHO The Cardinal of the Kremlin is the best written.



CotK has been the only Clancy book so far that I've had to FORCE my self to keep reading
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:13:45 PM EDT
None. Clancy is the most long winded, over rated author in the history of mankind. His Faux-spook bs is ingested by know-nothings and repeated as truth. Gimme a break.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:37:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
None. Clancy is the most long winded, over rated author in the history of mankind. His Faux-spook bs is ingested by know-nothings and repeated as truth. Gimme a break.


Yeah, 'cuz we all have to be hard core, all the time and never take a break and do something for enjoyment.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:42:00 PM EDT
Another vote for Red Storm Rising. I've read that book - no kidding - around 10 times.

I briefly played the game "Harpoon" on the PC, and thought it was somewhat similar to the book. Checked the front of the book, and Clancy actually talks about the fact that the book was basically a scenario they played out from that very game.
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 5:46:06 PM EDT
Clear and Present Danger
Red Storm Rising
Rainbow 6

i would start with RSR, and then read the Jack Ryan series in order starting with Red October
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 6:39:10 PM EDT
+1 on Without Remorse (my favorite too)
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 8:08:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2005 8:13:36 PM EDT by killsoft]
Without Remorse.

ETA: Shit. I wasted post 69 on this crappy thread?
Link Posted: 1/4/2005 9:27:42 PM EDT
My personal favorites are the Debt of Honor/Executive Orders pair.

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