
Posted: 3/13/2011 6:29:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:31:21 PM EST by Danj]
I know UK has those armed response units but most beat cops are not armed. I've never heard of this anywhere else.
ETA: I bet if they could the NYPD brass would disarm most officers. |
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Everywhere I've been the cops had guns. Italians had 92FSs and Model 12s. IIRC the Greeks had some sort of HiPowers as did the police in Dubai. In Bahrain they had Beretta clones and MP5s.
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Canada. We don't believe in guns
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I've only been to one country outside of the US (Colombia), so I sure as hell don't know about cops anywhere else in the world.
But, I'll tell you what I know: When I was in Colombia I saw the full gambit. From Cops walking around with Galils, to cops with various autos and revolvers, to cops with empty sidearm holsters so from a distance they appeared to be armed, to cops with just nightsticks. If I had to guess, it seemed most had firearms. |
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NZ cops are not routinely armed.
Often bushmasters and glocks in the boot (trunk) of the car though. |
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The Japanese police are very moderately armed, by and large. Honestly, I would imagine they would be more unarmed, if it wasn't for the US arming the Japanese Police after the War, creating a procedure from the which the Japanese police would be very difficult to dislodge. I remember reading they are issued locally produced S&W Model 10 copies, with 12 rounds, with a number of those being blanks. Removing the weapon from its holster was considered a use-of-force incident. That said, I think their UoF policies are VERY liberal regarding kicks/strikes or baton use. The Police in Japan are VERY highly regarded by the citizentry, as I understand it. |
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And which banks in those countries have the most cash?
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Japanese police carry SIG P230's in .32ACVP with an added safety.
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Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi: What is the thinking behind that?NZ cops are not routinely armed. Often bushmasters and glocks in the boot (trunk) of the car though. |
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Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi: NZ cops are not routinely armed. Often bushmasters and glocks in the boot (trunk) of the car though. Guns are icky in NZ |
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Campus police
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Campus police Ours have P229's, 870s and ARs. ETA: I thought more rozzers were armed these days |
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[/quote] ETA: I bet if they could the NYPD brass would disarm most officers. [/quote] why bother.... by and large can't shoot for shit..... ![]() |
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The Mumbai police were mostly unarmed.
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A lot of the small Carribean nations don't. though I did see one Granada cop with a .22 Beretta Minx a few years back.
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In the Republic of Ireland the Police (The Garda Siochana) also do not as a rule carry weapons.
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United Kingdom, Ireland, Norway, and New Zealand
like the guy above said indian police used to be unarmed but that changed after the mumbai attacks |
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Originally Posted By COASTIE_E4: why bother.... by and large can't shoot for shit..... ![]() That is the fault of the brass too. NYPD patrol officers by and large might not be the best shots but I'd bet due the amount of experience that most are better mentally prepared to deal with violence than other department's officers. |
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Originally Posted By TheCanuck:
Canada. We don't believe in guns It's not nice to lie to our southern neighbors. Telling them the we don't believe in guns is like the people who tell them we all live in igloos and only travel around by dog sled. edit for spelling |
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Campus police Not in Florida. Public University police are armed, certified state LEOs with all the authority local cops have, but only limited to campus. University of Miami has a well manned department with uniformed patrol, a motorcycle unit, and plain clothes supervisors/possibly detectives (who carry compact and subcompact Glocks on their belt). UM Police also must have "tacticool" dress days, because a group of four UM cops would always come into my former work place for lunch wearing gray BDUs and their Batman belts. |
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Bahamas are unarmed IIRC.
Ireland, armed. Jamaican cops are armed. All of continental Europe is armed, I believe. If I had to guess at unarmed cops - Singapore? |
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Campus police Mostly armed, in my experience, at least at public universities. |
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Originally Posted By WhackyPlague: Bahamas are unarmed IIRC. Ireland, armed. Jamaican cops are armed. All of continental Europe is armed, I believe. If I had to guess at unarmed cops - Singapore? Not only are Singapore cops not unarmed, they have a Gurkha contingent. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Danj:
I know UK has those armed response units but most beat cops are not armed. I've never heard of this anywhere else. ETA: I bet if they could the NYPD brass would disarm most officers. It would be safer. You guys are dangerous. |
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Most of the traffic cops in Kuwait were unarmed. I saw some wandering around with revolvers in crappy holsters with no reloads. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason to which ones carried and which ones rolled with no weapons. Sometimes a it would be a SArgeant carrying and sometimes it would be a patrolman.
I just chalked it up to most of them being lazy and not bothering to take their pistol out of their locker for shift. |
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Saw most cops in Jamaica didn't have pistols... most had billy clubs or night sticks. A few had revolvers.
The TCU Campus police had full police powers, and were allowed to carry whatever SA pistol they wanted. Small private university had their own dept so they could keep control of response times since Fort Worth PD is very slow. |
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Originally Posted By techi870: Originally Posted By TheCanuck: Canada. We don't believe in guns It's nice nice to lie to our southern neighbors. Telling them the we don't believe in guns is like the people who tell them we all live in igloos and only travel around by dog sled. You mean to tell me you don't? ![]() Next you're going to tell me you don't Roll up the Rim to Win ![]() |
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Cops carry in the Netherlands while on duty.
Of duty carry is illegal and a cop cant have a gun in the home for self defence ![]() Intresting enough a couple of months ago a off duty cop stopped the armed robbery of a jewlers using his illegally carried gun Link to story in Dutch |
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Campus police armed in Colorado, both at state and community colleges |
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Originally Posted By TheCanuck:
Originally Posted By techi870:
Originally Posted By TheCanuck:
Canada. We don't believe in guns It's nice nice to lie to our southern neighbors. Telling them the we don't believe in guns is like the people who tell them we all live in igloos and only travel around by dog sled. You mean to tell me you don't? ![]() Next you're going to tell me you don't Roll up the Rim to Win ![]() I miss Timmy Ho's ![]() |
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Iceland. I think they don't have a baton either, just mace and handcuffs.
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South Korea. Unless you count those big sticks.
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Campus police Not where I go. They have M4s. |
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Barbados...
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Campus police campus security maybe, but at least around here, university police officers are no different than county police in how they're trained and armed. |
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Virginia gun owners, are you a VCDL member?
http://www.vcdl.org |
Originally Posted By novaDAK: Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Campus police campus security maybe, but at least around here, university police officers are no different than county police in how they're trained and armed. I know that in Missouri they're technically State Police. |
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Originally Posted By futuremodal:
Planning on some sort of heist? I was thinking vacation. |
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Originally Posted By Fatbert: In Virginia public universities are state agencies. Originally Posted By novaDAK: Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Campus police campus security maybe, but at least around here, university police officers are no different than county police in how they're trained and armed. I know that in Missouri they're technically State Police. |
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Virginia gun owners, are you a VCDL member?
http://www.vcdl.org |
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
Originally Posted By Fatbert:
In Virginia public universities are state agencies.
Originally Posted By novaDAK:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Campus police campus security maybe, but at least around here, university police officers are no different than county police in how they're trained and armed. I know that in Missouri they're technically State Police. Yep. LSU police is/are a "State" agency. Here, anyway.... |
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Originally Posted By Fatbert:
All of the cops here are armed. The Army base in town has two guys standing out front with G36's during business hours. On a related note - I was in Bilbao yesterday and saw this: http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/supercaptaincoolman/IMG_0958.jpg That's right - a gun store in Europe. There's thousands of gun shops in Europe and the UK. Hell, there's 15 within a 10 mile radius of where I live (probably more actually) and at least 10 shooting ranges. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By TheCanuck:
Originally Posted By techi870:
Originally Posted By TheCanuck:
Canada. We don't believe in guns It's nice nice to lie to our southern neighbors. Telling them the we don't believe in guns is like the people who tell them we all live in igloos and only travel around by dog sled. You mean to tell me you don't? ![]() Next you're going to tell me you don't Roll up the Rim to Win ![]() I'm pretty sure if you don't Roll up the Rim to Win they can give you the death penalty. ![]() I've currently got a cup that good for a free coffee in my truck. |
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Originally Posted By Agent_Funky: Originally Posted By Fatbert: All of the cops here are armed. The Army base in town has two guys standing out front with G36's during business hours. On a related note - I was in Bilbao yesterday and saw this: http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/supercaptaincoolman/IMG_0958.jpg That's right - a gun store in Europe. There's thousands of gun shops in Europe and the UK. Hell, there's 15 within a 10 mile radius of where I live (probably more actually) and at least 10 shooting ranges. ![]() Of which 9 will be shotguns only and the 10th will do airguns as well? I used to find that it was very hard to buy anything outside of traditional products and I lived Berkshire/Oxfordshire borders. Woe betide anyone that wanted a rail for an AR15. I also saw a LOT of shooting ranges close down about 5 years after the pistol ban as the 'gallery rifle' craze wore off. Although if you're talking indoor ranges there does seem to be one in every major town. The thing that still amazes me, you know the electronic targets at Bisley, no-one else here in the US that I've seen has that yet. |
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Originally Posted By elucidate:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Fatbert:
All of the cops here are armed. The Army base in town has two guys standing out front with G36's during business hours. On a related note - I was in Bilbao yesterday and saw this: http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/supercaptaincoolman/IMG_0958.jpg That's right - a gun store in Europe. There's thousands of gun shops in Europe and the UK. Hell, there's 15 within a 10 mile radius of where I live (probably more actually) and at least 10 shooting ranges. ![]() Of which 9 will be shotguns only and the 10th will do airguns as well? I used to find that it was very hard to buy anything outside of traditional products and I lived Berkshire/Oxfordshire borders. Woe betide anyone that wanted a rail for an AR15. I also saw a LOT of shooting ranges close down about 5 years after the pistol ban as the 'gallery rifle' craze wore off. Although if you're talking indoor ranges there does seem to be one in every major town. The thing that still amazes me, you know the electronic targets at Bisley, no-one else here in the US that I've seen has that yet. All of the Gunshops near me do rifles and shotguns.Some are Sec 5 dealers for pistols. There is one or two air rifle only ones but I didn't think to include them. Shooting has sen quite a resurgence in the UK in the last 5 years or so and there's actually a shortage of range space now. Yeah ETR is becoming more and more popular as is the electronic scoring stuff we use down there. Absolutely no problem getting AR stuff now. The asshattery of the US State Department and the epic clusterfuck that is ITAR has really hampered US Imports for legit use but there's a lot of UK innovation going on right now to satisfy an ever growing AR Market. The American market is still huge by comparison byut it would be nice to get more US stuff over here. |
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Section 5 is what pistols and semi auto rifle? How hard is it to get that permit and can you shoot those guns?
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The asshattery of the US State Department and the epic clusterfuck that is ITAR has really hampered US Imports for legit use I gotta +1 this !
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Originally Posted By Danj:
ETA: I bet if they could the NYPD brass would disarm most officers. Please, we've got verbal judo, those escape hoods, and a bl..er, um minority community that loves us! WTF do I need guns for? |
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Originally Posted By Danj:
Section 5 is what pistols and semi auto rifle? How hard is it to get that permit and can you shoot those guns? Pistols - not hard to get one. But the conditions imposed are bloody stupid. Semit auto rifles (centrfire) almost impossible at the moment. Bloody silly laws again |
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