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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:14:30 AM EDT
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/12/belgium-senate-child-euthanasia/4000713/ BRUSSELS (AP) — Belgium's Senate has strongly supported legislation that would extend the country's euthanasia law to children under certain conditions. Senators on Thursday voted 50-17 in favor of the proposed law. If adopted, it will decriminalize euthanasia for children, if they are in great pain, suffer from a terminal condition and are expected to die soon. The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized, and be aware of what their request meant. No age limit would be set, but the children would have "to possess the capacity of discernment." Their parents or legal representatives also would have to support the request in writing. Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:16:53 AM EDT
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I wish they had it here, not so much for kids but for adults, friend is CNA for hospice and if most of those people had an option, they would take an early exit instead of suffering and waiting to die.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:16:54 AM EDT
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Post-partem abortion?
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:19:20 AM EDT
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In before suspects call this this "wanton murder of children" or some such nonsense.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:20:40 AM EDT
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure wouldn't want to live out my life as a pain wracked vegetable.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:20:47 AM EDT
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If you are dying and are in excruciating pain, who is to blame you for ending it?
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:20:53 AM EDT
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Cant imagine having to help your kid make that decision.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:21:27 AM EDT
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Too bad it doesn't include the spawn from hell of parents that bring misbehaving children into restaurants and other public places.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:32:01 AM EDT
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Too bad it doesn't include the spawn from hell of parents that bring misbehaving children into restaurants and other public places. Euthanasia is only putting someone out of their misery, it doesn't cover putting them out of your misery. 
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:16:40 PM EDT
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure wouldn't want to live out my life as a pain wracked vegetable. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:17:23 PM EDT
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Euthanasia is only putting someone out of their misery, it doesn't cover putting them out of your misery. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Too bad it doesn't include the spawn from hell of parents that bring misbehaving children into restaurants and other public places. Euthanasia is only putting someone out of their misery, it doesn't cover putting them out of your misery. Putting them out of your misery is justifiable homicide. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:18:26 PM EDT
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Secular Europe's killers gonna kill.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:19:11 PM EDT
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I'll round up dozens at the local walmarts and movie theaters, if we can get this implemented in Florida.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:19:24 PM EDT
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Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. FPNI. They're gonna die anyway, their parents concur, they understand what's going on. Why prolong the suffering? |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:19:49 PM EDT
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don't see much wrong with that.
there's doctors here that will do it for kids or adults. it's called "are you still in pain?" - (up dose of morphine) "how about now?" - (up dose of morphine) "now?" - (up dose of morphine) oh look, his/her heart stopped. he/she must have been in a lot of pain. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:20:27 PM EDT
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Hopefully this opens the door for euthanasia for youth in Asia
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:20:42 PM EDT
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Their country, their laws.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
In before suspects call this this "wanton murder of children" or some such nonsense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
In before suspects call this this "wanton murder of children" or some such nonsense. Quoted:
Secular Europe's killers gonna kill. and there you have it. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:23:51 PM EDT
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The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized Those letters would be hard to read, and a compilation of them would be so horrible. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:23:58 PM EDT
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Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/12/belgium-senate-child-euthanasia/4000713/ BRUSSELS (AP) — Belgium's Senate has strongly supported legislation that would extend the country's euthanasia law to children under certain conditions. Senators on Thursday voted 50-17 in favor of the proposed law. If adopted, it will decriminalize euthanasia for children, if they are in great pain, suffer from a terminal condition and are expected to die soon. The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized, and be aware of what their request meant. No age limit would be set, but the children would have "to possess the capacity of discernment." Their parents or legal representatives also would have to support the request in writing. Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. Agreed. It's sad that there are enought childred in such situations to warrant a law  , but it seems to have enough requirements and safeguards in it to prevent abuse.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:24:33 PM EDT
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Secular Europe's killers gonna kill. lol |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:25:23 PM EDT
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure wouldn't want to live out my life as a pain wracked vegetable. That law won't do any good in such a case. It says the child has, "...to possess the capacity of discernment." |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:26:53 PM EDT
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Pathetic
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:29:46 PM EDT
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We call that Abortion here in America.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:31:28 PM EDT
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/12/belgium-senate-child-euthanasia/4000713/ BRUSSELS (AP) — Belgium's Senate has strongly supported legislation that would extend the country's euthanasia law to children under certain conditions. Senators on Thursday voted 50-17 in favor of the proposed law. If adopted, it will decriminalize euthanasia for children, if they are in great pain, suffer from a terminal condition and are expected to die soon. The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized, and be aware of what their request meant. No age limit would be set, but the children would have "to possess the capacity of discernment." Their parents or legal representatives also would have to support the request in writing. I don't know how I feel about this. Sometimes I hate the world I live in though.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:32:15 PM EDT
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I don't understand how anyone is opposed to death with dignity.
Suffering is not blessed or nobel,it's pure shit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:32:28 PM EDT
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Those letters would be hard to read, and a compilation of them would be so horrible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized Those letters would be hard to read, and a compilation of them would be so horrible. Don't worry. Someone will come a long and publish it. Never underestimate the tastelessness of the American Public.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:35:42 PM EDT
[#28]
I don't see a problem with this. If the parents are also in agreement, it's got to be a bad situation.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:51:53 PM EDT
[#29]
On the path to pure SOCIALISM, Europe has always had a big lead.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:52:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Their country their rules.
Just means more Belgian chocolate for the rest of us. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:55:27 PM EDT
[#31]
This is one of the things from Europe that we should copy.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 1:00:40 PM EDT
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Their country their rules. Just means more Belgian chocolate for the rest of us. Funny! 'And in breaking news...Humanity has just cured cancer!' Ooops. Chris |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 2:27:00 PM EDT
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We call that Abortion here in America. Really? Assisted suicide of a person who is terminally ill AND who is in a ton of pain AND who is going to die soon AND who is conscious and able to make decisions AND whose parents agree ... that's what abortion is? I always thought the problem with abortion was that it was the killing of a person who is unable to make decisions, and who is not conscious, and who is not terminally ill and who is not going to die soon. Did the definition of abortion recently change to include suicide, and nobody told me? |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 2:33:17 PM EDT
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Sounds like murder to me?
My kid is acting up in school, smoking dope and getting suspended, So let me Euthanize him or her..  Sounds like a abunch of Nihilists Moralists. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 2:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/12/belgium-senate-child-euthanasia/4000713/ BRUSSELS (AP) — Belgium's Senate has strongly supported legislation that would extend the country's euthanasia law to children under certain conditions. Senators on Thursday voted 50-17 in favor of the proposed law. If adopted, it will decriminalize euthanasia for children, if they are in great pain, suffer from a terminal condition and are expected to die soon. The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized, and be aware of what their request meant. No age limit would be set, but the children would have "to possess the capacity of discernment." Their parents or legal representatives also would have to support the request in writing. Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. I don't know if Oregon's Death With Dignity law applies to minors or not, but I do know that there is not a single case of it being abused. Every single person who has exercised their legal option to end their life voluntarily is one that I agree wholeheartedly with their decision. You might not choose to end your life under any circumstance but IMO there are fates worse than death. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 2:39:57 PM EDT
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FPNI. They're gonna die anyway, their parents concur, they understand what's going on. Why prolong the suffering? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. FPNI. They're gonna die anyway, their parents concur, they understand what's going on. Why prolong the suffering? Does that standard apply to hood rats/bangers? They gonna die anyway and their parent knows it. 
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Posted: 12/13/2013 2:46:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2013 2:49:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Families should be able to make this decision.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:09:24 PM EDT
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Sounds like murder to me? My kid is acting up in school, smoking dope and getting suspended, So let me Euthanize him or her..
Sounds like a abunch of Nihilists Moralists. Do you realize this is as stupid as " the only reason to own an assault rifle is to kill people" ? |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:15:20 PM EDT
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On the path to pure SOCIALISM, Europe has always had a big lead. Having control over your own life and death is the very opposite of Socialism. Thanks for playing kid. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:17:26 PM EDT
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Don't worry. Someone will come a long and publish it. Never underestimate the tastelessness of the American Public.
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The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized Those letters would be hard to read, and a compilation of them would be so horrible. Don't worry. Someone will come a long and publish it. Never underestimate the tastelessness of the American Public.
And here is some proof... Quoted:
Too bad it doesn't include the spawn from hell of parents that bring misbehaving children into restaurants and other public places. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:17:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:19:12 PM EDT
[#43]
It's a very difficult decision, but one people should be able to make legally.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:19:39 PM EDT
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Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/12/belgium-senate-child-euthanasia/4000713/ BRUSSELS (AP) — Belgium's Senate has strongly supported legislation that would extend the country's euthanasia law to children under certain conditions. Senators on Thursday voted 50-17 in favor of the proposed law. If adopted, it will decriminalize euthanasia for children, if they are in great pain, suffer from a terminal condition and are expected to die soon. The children would have to submit a written request to be euthanized, and be aware of what their request meant. No age limit would be set, but the children would have "to possess the capacity of discernment." Their parents or legal representatives also would have to support the request in writing. Given the many requirements stated, I can't really say I think this is a bad thing. Sounds more like "assisted suicide" with the concurrence of the parents, for minors who have mental capacity and who are suffering from great pain due to a disease that is terminal anyway. I'd have to agree. Now...what does it provide to avoid abuse? |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:20:01 PM EDT
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I don't see the problem. My Uncle resides in Holland and is currently dying of lung cancer. As I understand it, he is officially throwing in the towel as of last week.
It doesn't seem to be a bad way to deal with it; he gets to set up his funeral the way he wants, have friends and family visit and then simply check out, without slowly wasting away in excruciating pain. It's the only control he has left over the situation. In principle I don't see why children don't deserve the same. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:22:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell, it's true. Don't they all have swords over there? Plus all those martial arts and whatnot. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:24:15 PM EDT
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I know the issue here deals specifically with children, but it is a travesty that assisted suicide/euthanasia is illegal in the US.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:28:48 PM EDT
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I don't understand how anyone is opposed to death with dignity. Suffering is not blessed or nobel,it's pure shit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There's no dignity in any death. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:31:23 PM EDT
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There's no dignity in any death. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand how anyone is opposed to death with dignity. Suffering is not blessed or nobel,it's pure shit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There's no dignity in any death. Yes, but some are especially undignified. Personally I feel that this is a great idea. If you're terminally ill and suffering greatly there's no point in life sometimes. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 3:43:28 PM EDT
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Having control over your own life and death is the very opposite of Socialism. Thanks for playing kid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On the path to pure SOCIALISM, Europe has always had a big lead. Having control over your own life and death is the very opposite of Socialism. Thanks for playing kid. Thak you Swede I am in charge of my own body and so are my wife and son (although obviously as a minor he does not have full say). The same way I would advise anybody here not to use heroin or eat deep fried chicken every day but I sure as hell dont want a moral buisybody making a law againt it. |
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