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Posted: 12/19/2010 7:29:37 AM EDT
This is Obama at its very best. Getting our guys killed.


http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from-baja-arizona/2010/12/18/was-border-patrol-agent-brian-terry-only-armed-with-non-leathal-weapons/
Link Posted: 12/19/2010 7:32:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2010 7:35:19 AM EDT
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Even if he was armed with a LL gun, I'm willing to bet he had his standard sidearm with him and his partners had standard long guns with them.



ETA:  BORTAC is well trained and are top notch agents, I don't think for a second their ROE limited them to LL weapons only.  The article is thin on facts.

Link Posted: 12/19/2010 7:36:23 AM EDT
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Rubber bullets are lethal, for the shooter.
Link Posted: 12/19/2010 7:42:08 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Even if he was armed with a LL gun, I'm willing to bet he had his standard sidearm with him and his partners had standard long guns with them.

ETA:  BORTAC is well trained and are top notch agents, I don't think for a second their ROE limited them to LL weapons only.  The article is thin on facts.


Its thin on facts cause they dont trust you with the facts. You want the truth? You cant handle the truth......thats the new America under our ruler. I have no idea if you are right or wrong. You may be totally spot on. But Im done trusting these people. And we all better start asking questions and demanding  facts.

Link Posted: 12/19/2010 7:45:47 AM EDT
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I don't buy this for a second. I am very familiar with how work is done in the Tucson sector.
Link Posted: 12/19/2010 7:55:17 AM EDT
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BORTAC guys are highly skilled, highly trained guys. I'd say, the top 10% of agents that try out for it. These guys are not slackers and the washout rate is very high. I've heard it's like 60 to 80%.



It pisses me off that Nutjob Napolitano is still fucking us over on border security and she is down-playing this agent's death trying to say that illegal crossings and murders/criminal activity is down. While I do see less illegals being arrested and processed at this moment, at least in my county and by my agency, it is still an issue and needs to be fixed. Illegals still commit a majority of crimes here in AZ.




She keeps saying that the border is a secure as it has ever been. Bullshit.
Link Posted: 12/19/2010 8:28:16 AM EDT
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I read the attached examiner.com article were the guy claims he has received info that Agent Terry only had bean bags.  The author clearly has no clue as to the mission or ROE for Border Patrol and BORTAC.

BORTAC is as elite as any other SF group.  they are the best trained agents the Border Patrol has to offer.  

There is no way he was armed with nothing more than less-lethal rounds.
Link Posted: 12/19/2010 8:34:46 AM EDT
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Total bullshit and typical journalistic fail.

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Link Posted: 12/19/2010 8:35:57 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Total bullshit and typical journalistic fail.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

and a dupe

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