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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:06:05 PM EDT
Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?
I was looking at this SKS following a Google search and saw it had a bayonet, and I wondered really what the point was to having one if you weren't using it in the millitary. |
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agntsa |
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Hmmm...makes a lot of sense. |
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umm.. imagine your lost in the woods, it is cold and rainy and you REALLY want to roast marshmallows. |
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(a) Rifle &/or Club &/or Spear
(b) Rifle &/or Club Which is better? ETA: I believe the technical term for the accouterment under discussion is "kill dagger." ETA(2): I believe that "Bayonets Not on Rifles" are known as "knives" or "knives with no fucking handles." |
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If you are in the middle of a crowd of zombies and can't do a reload it could come in handy. With that said, I do have one correct example for each military rifle type that takes one just for non PC goodness.
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"Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?"
Yes. Bayonets on rifles make liberals even more frightened and angry. |
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That's why I got one on my pistol. |
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Yep, I do it just to piss off the liberals.
And I like some of them as knives. |
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Because Chuckles Schumer and Diane Effing Feinstein says you shouldn't have one! What more reason do you need?
--As if you needed a reason-- --And if that's not good enough, because it ramps up the eeeevil factor of even an M1 Carbine! |
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It's as simple as being able to buy one in the orginal configuration. It is a pretty useless feature, and in fact causes more harm than good in most cases.
5 rifles come to mind instantly when mentioning permanently attached bayonets: 1) SKS 2) M44 Mosin Nagant 3) Czech VS 52 & 52/57 4) Carcano cavalry carbine 5) Arisaka 44th year carbine The thinking was sound in the era of bayonets being a legitimate combat tool. This obsolete thinking lasted much longer than it should have due to certain cultures love of blades (in the case of the Japanese) and the brutal battlefield spirit of others (the Soviets). |
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Watch the movie Zulu Dawn
At one point as the British at Isandlawhana are staring down the 'head of the Zulu buffalo' one of the troopers makes the comment that bullets can run out, spears don't. |
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They make pistol bayonets? The only ones I have seen have been on rifles, like this SKS and a Garand that was in a pic that Rodent posted once. |
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Because my rifle has lugs for one and I might need to stick somebody with it someday. Is there really any other point necessary? |
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bayonets are rarely ever used in combats. Most soldiers would sooner use their rifle as a club.
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A Birtish squad did a bayonet charge in Iraq.
It worked IIRC, they got scared and ran away (the enemy). Someone else can correct and fill the details. |
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History & Evolution of the bayonet
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when you are walking out of the woods, you can "leave no trace" by picking up trash witout bending over.
and if your kids have "assault weapons", which normal kids would, they want to be cool and have the whole package and not some modiied fake... |
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Because;
1. They look cool. 2. This country doesn't/shouldn't require a need to be proved for something. 3. Because we're supposed to have by right all the terrible implements of war. Need is a very scary prerequisite to exercising our rights. |
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Yes, while it has a limited use, the fight is more over having the option taken away from you on ARs, and butchering classic rifles like the M1 rifle, M1 carbine, SKS, AK47, etc, etc all to please the PC police.
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+Eleventeenbillion!!! |
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+1 - no one needs more than 128 MB or RAM... mandating that may actually deter hackers... |
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I use them on C%R guns to get the cosmo out, fix the bayo, use it as a stand for it in full sunlight.
Also fun just for the hell of it |
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And what's the point of Full power centerfire ammo for us lowly civilians, .22 rimfire would suit us just fine, and look how well it has reduced crime in England.
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Good looking bayonet on the K31 is that a 1914 bayonet? Regards ACK |
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Dammit, dammit, dammit. Somebody always beats me to it. |
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Im so glad soemone brought this up. What I need is a very very scarey thought. |
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Because there are some stupid people for whatever reason would assume that you wouldnt shoot them, but they might for some reason think that you would be willing to stick them.
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Hell, theres alot of reasons why you don't NEED things like a bayonet, but there aren't any reasons why I shouldn't be able to
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Besides the obvious self defense reasons, if you hunt hogs in thick bush its a good idea. Really good idea if you hunt alone without dogs.
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Yep...! One of my silly childhood desires. www.swissrifles.com/bayonets/ |
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Why do you think that is? |
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Because you're very smart. |
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bayonetts have many uses other than stabbing.
kick stand <rifle stand> garbage picker upper field knife intimidation cool factor and many others. in the military, when the order to fix bayonets is given i always got a moral boost as well. Yes i was a remf but there is something about sticking a blade on the end of your rifle that makes you feel like a warrior. |
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