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Posted: 6/11/2003 4:57:11 AM EDT
Okay I'm panicking. Is there anything to this. Do you think it's going to pass? Here's the post from another board: [b]Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003 (Introduced in House) HR 2038 IH 108th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 2038 To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES May 8, 2003 Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York (for herself, Mr. SHAYS, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. SMITH of New Jersey, Mr. NADLER, Ms. LOFGREN, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, Ms. WATERS, Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. WEXLER, Mr. WEINER, Ms. LINDA T. SANCHEZ of California, Mr. EMANUEL, Mr. CASE, Mrs. MALONEY, Ms. CORRINE BROWN of Florida, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island, Mr. RANGEL, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. ACKERMAN, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. HONDA, Mr. STARK, Ms. SOLIS, Ms. LEE, Mr. VAN HOLLEN, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. TOWNS, Ms. ROYBAL-ALLARD, Mr. GRIJALVA, Ms. CARSON of Indiana, Ms. NORTON, Mr. LIPINSKI, Mr. RUSH, Ms. WATSON, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. JACKSON of Illinois, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Mr. OWENS, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. CUMMINGS, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. FARR, Ms. LORETTA SANCHEZ of California, Mr. MORAN of Virginia, Mr. MARKEY, Mr. ANDREWS, Mr. HOLT, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. PASCRELL, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mrs. TAUSCHER, Ms. DELAURO, Mr. ENGEL, Mr. CAPUANO, Mr. HOEFFEL, Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. MENENDEZ, Ms. VELAZQUEZ, Mr. TIERNEY, Mr. BRADY of Pennsylvania, Mr. ROTHMAN, Mr. FATTAH, Ms. HARMAN, Mr. BISHOP of New York, and Mr. LANGEVIN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003'. SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS. (a) IN GENERAL- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows: `(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following: `(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; `(ii) AR-10; `(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR; `(iv) AR70; `(v) Calico Liberty; `(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU; `(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC; `(viii) Hi-Point Carbine; `(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1; `(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; `(xi) M1 Carbine; `(xii) Saiga; `(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800; `(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine; `(xv) SLG 95; `(xvi) SLR 95 or 96; `(xvii) Steyr AUG; `(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14; `(xix) Tavor; `(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or `(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz). `(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) Calico M-110; `(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3; `(iii) Olympic Arms OA; `(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or `(v) Uzi. `(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) Armscor 30 BG; `(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12; `(iii) Striker 12; or `(iv) Streetsweeper. `(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has-- `(i) a folding or telescoping stock; `(ii) a threaded barrel; `(iii) a pistol grip; `(iv) a forward grip; or `(v) a barrel shroud. `(E)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. `(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. `(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has-- `(i) a second pistol grip; `(ii) a threaded barrel; `(iii) a barrel shroud; or `(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip. `(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. `(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has-- `(i) a folding or telescoping stock; `(ii) a pistol grip; `(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or `(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds. `(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. `(J) A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A) through (I) or (L). `(K) A conversion kit. `(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'. (b) RELATED DEFINITIONS- Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: `(36) BARREL SHROUD- The term `barrel shroud' means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel. `(37) CONVERSION KIT- The term `conversion kit' means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. `(38) DETACHABLE MAGAZINE- The term `detachable magazine' means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm. `(39) FIXED MAGAZINE- The term `fixed magazine' means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm. `(40) FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK- The term `folding or telescoping stock' means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm. `(41) FORWARD GRIP- The term `forward grip' means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip. `(42) PISTOL GRIP- The term `pistol grip' means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip. `(43) THREADED BARREL- The term `threaded barrel' means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(a)).'. SEC. 3. ELIMINATION OF SUNSET. Section 110105 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 is amended-- (1) by striking `--' and all that follows through `(1)'; and (2) by striking `; and' and all that follows through `that date'[/b]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:16:31 AM EDT
Yeah, this appears to be the Upped AWB that has been floating around out there. We can just hope that congress wont pass it. WRITE YOUR CONGRESSPEOPLE!!! AND SENATORS!!!
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:17:56 AM EDT
Er.....ya, we know... GWB says he'll sign it. Why are you panicking?? This will keep your children safe, while they're in school...
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:20:29 AM EDT
Most of us have been e-mailing, writing or calling our senators and congressmen/women about this House Resolution for some time. The NRA has sent out alerts and ya mustav been livin under a rock to have missed it.[;)] Doubt it will make it, as it's in conflict with our second ammendment rights, but does provide a good list of card carrying "marxists" and "commies" in the House of Representatives/Congress. FWIW, ya should be doing the same as listed above, contact your congressman/woman and senators and let them know how your opinion on HR 2038. [b]Letters are only 0.37 cents to send, e-mails cost nuthin, and w/ ATT phone card from Sams, phone calls are only 3.4 cents a minute, so do your part and blow $5 on letting the yahoos elected in your state know how ya feel.[/b] Every voice counts, IMO, add yours..... Mike
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:27:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mr_wilson: Most of us have been e-mailing, writing or calling our senators and congressmen/women about this House Resolution for some time. The NRA has sent out alerts and ya mustav been livin under a rock to have missed it.[;)] Doubt it will make it, as it's in conflict with our second ammendment rights, but does provide a good list of card carrying "marxists" and "commies" in the House of Representatives/Congress. FWIW, ya should be doing the same as listed above, contact your congressman/woman and senators and let them know how your opinion on HR 2038. [b]Letters are only [red]0.37 cents[/red] to send, e-mails cost nuthin, and w/ ATT phone card from Sams, phone calls are only 3.4 cents a minute, so do your part and blow $5 on letting the yahoos elected in your state know how ya feel.[/b] Every voice counts, IMO, add yours..... Mike
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Of course you meant [b]$0.37[/b] or just [b]37 cents[/b]. I hate it when people do not use units properly. I see it in the produce section at the grocery stores all of the time. I mean 1/100th the price!! Back up the truck, we're stocking up!!!
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:32:11 AM EDT
[url]www.house.gov[/url] [url]www.senate.gov[/url] NO EXCUSES.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:38:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mr_wilson: Most of us have been e-mailing, writing or calling our senators and congressmen/women about this House Resolution for some time. The NRA has sent out alerts and ya mustav been livin under a rock to have missed it.[;)] Doubt it will make it, as it's in conflict with our second ammendment rights, but does provide a good list of card carrying "marxists" and "commies" in the House of Representatives/Congress. FWIW, ya should be doing the same as listed above, contact your congressman/woman and senators and let them know how your opinion on HR 2038. [b]Letters are only 0.37 cents to send, e-mails cost nuthin, and w/ ATT phone card from Sams, phone calls are only 3.4 cents a minute, so do your part and blow $5 on letting the yahoos elected in your state know how ya feel.[/b] Every voice counts, IMO, add yours..... Mike
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mr_wilson IN 1994 DID YOU ALSO DOUBT THAT THE CRIME BILL/AW BAN WOULD PASS, BECAUSE IT TOO WAS IN CONFLICT WITH OUR SECOND AMMENDMENT RIGHTS? A armed nation that lets it's govenment rule them so subversivly, with restrictive laws and illegal taxes, does not deserve to be armed.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:55:03 AM EDT
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here is a copy of the email I sent to my Senator. Mr. Rockefeller Please do not support the passage of this bill. It is an ILLEGAL infringement of my Second Amendment right. Rights that this great nation was founded on. Did you know that after the surrender of the Japanese in WWII, interviews with ranking Japanese officials learned the only reason they did not attack mainland America in force(the had the capability to do so) was that they knew every other home in America had a gun in it? Think of what the degradation of our rights in this country would mean. We as a nation have spent a great deal of time, money, and most of all the blood of freedom loving Americans, to preserve and defend the right of other nations. While at the same time the very thread of our rights are being pulled out of the tapestry of our freedom. Yours Truly Mike Cox Voter, Taxpayer, and Law Abiding Gun Owner. [red]address edited out. If coltshorty is who I think (she) is... -DF[/red]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 5:57:34 AM EDT
Guys, you need to get your heads right about these bills. When they are as drastic as the one posted, IT'S A GOOD THING. It means that it won't pass. Beware of the bills that are "reasonable".
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:04:27 AM EDT
ColtShorty, if that is your real physical address, I would edit that post and remove it.... Im not trying to treat you like a kid......but, lots of people look at this board that aren't registered and don't hold the core values that many on this site do... Just my .02 -HS
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:19:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Guys, you need to get your heads right about these bills. When they are as drastic as the one posted, IT'S A GOOD THING. It means that it won't pass. Beware of the bills that are "reasonable".
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Cinci; I agree with you in concept, but "reasonable" is in the eye of the beholder. There are some that will say that this proposed bill doesn't go far enough. And then there those of us who say the NFA went too far. It's all a matter of perspective and we must be vigilant even with the bills that have little chance of passing. -934
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:21:15 AM EDT
I agree. But panic is not called for here. Vigilance.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:24:41 AM EDT
`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or [red]Olympic Arms PCR[/red] [LOLabove] sorry ya'll but i think it's funny as hell that the PCR is on the list as it was supposed to mean politicaly correct rifle.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:25:37 AM EDT
I've written my entire congressional delegation. Have you contacted yours? A large part of the blame for so many of our rights being chipped away is due to gun owners not making their voices heard. Don't be afraid to be on some list. Hell, you already are.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:36:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By libertyman777: (SNIP)Okay I'm panicking. Is there anything to this. Do you think it's going to pass? Here's the post from another board:
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[blue]Bill deleted due to the fact that thats what should be done with it in real life[/blue] First off there is no reason to fret. Second this is old news. See the Prez said while campaigning that he supports the current ban, he said that he'd sign the current ban if it was sent to him to be reupped. But here is the thing. This is not the current ban, it is stronger, and more BS than the current ban. So even if it made it to the Prez i doubt he'd sign the bill why you ask? because it is not the current ban it is worse. I will hold Bushie to his word and he said he supports the [red]current[/red] ban, so anything that is not the exact word for word bill as the current one, as a new assault weapons ban better not ever see the ink of his pen, or he will no longer be pres. he will lose his bid for re-election.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:39:36 AM EDT
This topic again? This has been hashed and re-hased many times in the last few weeks. I even met with my congresswoman two weeks ago and this was the number one topic of our conversation...(but not the only one!). She reassured me that this AWB...or any AWB, AWB copycat, AWB derivative, AWB clone, AWB child or ANY reasonable facsimile of an AWB, [b]will NOT make it out of committee in the House of Representatives! Period...end of discussion![/b] Mr. Delay, the [Republican] Majority Leader has stated unequivically that the House would NOT allow any type of this goofy legislation to come anywhere near the President's desk for signature into law. My congresswoman also related to me that in her conversations with our Republican leadership in the Senate, that they too are totally unwilling to deal with this very contentious issue. She cited two very common sense reasons: (1) A majority of the people of America are not for an AWB renewal, since the damn thing has done NOTHING to reduce crime and the illegal use of firearms by criminals...rather is does nothing but restrict the ability of law abiding citizens to own fireams. (2) This issue is a tar-baby that no Republican lawmaker wants to hang on President Bush in an election year. Bottom line, this ain't gonna happen...no how...no WAY! Now...that does NOT mean we can all rest on our laurels. Our congresscritters need constant stroking and constant reminders that they work for US and that we want the AWB to vanish and that ALL such legislation is plain stupid. My congresswoman also reminded me of an undeniable truth of politics: They LISTEN to our mail and our phone calls, and they do base their decisions on our proddings...(that is unless you happen to live in Kalifornistan...then they just tell conservatives to fuck off!) Finally...read the list of co-sponsers of that piece of crap. Reads like the Democratic Socialists of America's Progressive Congressional Caucus. For all of you folks that are still Democrats, don't like Republican candidates, are pissed at Dubya for one reason or another, are teachers or auto workers, or teamsters, Pink Pistols, Security Moms, etc., and are seriously thinking of voting for the Dems next election...think HARD about keeping your RKBA before you pull the lever or pop the punch card. Dems will work to take your guns...Republicans will work to protect your rights. Simple as that. Sort your priorities...if you are a true believer is socialism, if you believe in the class warfare crap being spouted by the Dems, if you believe that the Dems are the better choice, then vote for them...but if you do...[b]don't say one fucking word in complaint if the Dems regain the White House and a majority in congress and the AWB comes back to haunt us and you lose your RKBA! Not one word![/b][nono] [Soapbox]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:42:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sashmore: I've written my entire congressional delegation. Have you contacted yours? A large part of the blame for so many of our rights being chipped away is due to gun owners not making their voices heard. Don't be afraid to be on some list. Hell, you already are.
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Tell that to everyone who was fighting the ban on .50's in Kalifornia, I'm sure they'll love to know that seeing as nothing they did worked because the damn commie government had already made up it's mind. It don't matter how loud you scream and yell sometimes, if those in control don't wna to listen they won't. In the end nothing mattered why because the government in that state is so far out of touch with the people that it does not matter. Kalifornistan is the perfect state for the people to rise up and take back through use of force(voting has done no good) a government that has in fact become tyranical.
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 6:50:43 AM EDT
Thanks for the links. I've written everyone I could. L'man [marines]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 7:04:18 AM EDT
[b][blue]* * * I hope you guys don't mind if I keep reposting this every time this topic comes up * * * [/blue][/b] The goal is to kill these bills before they ever see the light of a CNN camera. We have to make sure that these anti-RKBA bills get buried in committee and stay buried. Towards that end, we need to SUPPORT and ENCOURAGE these particular House members because they have these and all other anti-RKBA bills in THEIR hands [b]right NOW[/b]. We have our most strength in the House and THAT'S where we need to focus our efforts - and our emails, letters and phone calls. [b]108th US Congress - [/b] [b]HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE - [/b] [i](this is where all gun-control bills are introduced in the House)[/i] [B]Chairman - [url=http://www.house.gov/sensenbrenner/contact.htm]Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., R-WI:[/url] GOA rating: A[/b] [b]HOUSE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME, TERRORISM, AND HOMELAND SECURITY - [/b] [i](this is the judiciary subcommittee that is the first to vote on (or bury) all gun-control bills)[/i] [b]Chairman - [url=http://www.house.gov/coble/]Rep. Howard Coble, R-NC:[/url] GOA rating: A Subcommittee Members - * [url=http://www.tomfeeney.com/cf/prs_47.cfm]Rep. Tom Feeney, R-FL:[/url] GOA rating: A * [url=http://www.house.gov/keller/Frset.htm]Rep. Rick Keller, R-FL:[/url] GOA rating: A * [url=http://mikepence.house.gov/]Rep. Mike Pence, R-IN:[/url] GOA rating: A * [url=http://www.house.gov/goodlatte/]Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-VA:[/url] GOA rating: A- * [url=http://www.house.gov/forbes/]Rep. Randy Forbes, R-VA:[/url] GOA rating: A- * [url=http://www.house.gov/chabot/]Rep. Steve Chabot, R-OH:[/url] GOA rating: A- * [url=http://www.house.gov/markgreen/]Rep. Mark Green, R-WI:[/url] GOA rating: B-[/b] * Rep. Robert Scott, D-VA: GOA rating: F- * Rep. Adam Schiff, D-CA: GOA rating: F- * Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-TX: GOA rating: F- * Rep. Maxine Waters, D-CA: GOA rating: F- * Rep. Martin Meehan, D-MA: GOA rating: F- [b]HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER -[/b] [i](this is who is most responsible for "moving" bills or "sidetracking" bills in the House)[/i] [b]* [url=http://tomdelay.house.gov/contact.htm]Rep. Tom DeLay, R-TX:[/url] GOA rating: A[/b] [size=3][blue][b]Just look at that straight-A line-up! [bounce][/b][/blue][/size=3] [b][size=3]THIS[/size=3][/b] is what a Republican-majority can do - but the battle's just beginning now! This is our [b]BEST[/b] chance to kill these kinds of bills. Right now we got a [b]GOA-[red]A[/red]-rated[/b] Committee Chairman, [b]GOA-[red]A[/red]-rated[/b] Subcommittee Chairman, [b][u]MAJORITY[/u] of GOA-[red]A[/red]-rated[/b] Subcommittee members, and a [b]GOA-[red]A[/red]-rated[/b] House Majority Leader. Now we can piss and moan all we want to about what bills are introduced and who introduced them - but [b]THESE PEOPLE[/b] are the ones who can keep or kill them. Contact them and let them know that these anti-gun bills are blatant violations of the 2nd Amendment and "remind" them that the 'gun-control' issue was a MAJOR factor in the success of conservative Republicans in both the 2000 and 2002 elections and will continue to be so in the future. And if you live in any of these Rep's States (or better yet their districts) [b][size=3]you MUST[/size=3][/b] contact them [b]OFTEN[/b] and let them hear from the people who will be voting in their next election. Just think... ...it only takes EIGHT people in this one subcommittee to bury these bills - [b]DEAD[/b]. Write LETTERS, make PHONE CALLS as well as emails! This one is OURS to win or lose.[/b] [size=4][b]Let'em hear from you!!![/b][/size=4] [soapbox]
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 7:06:34 AM EDT
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Here's some more info on contacting your public servants: Send letters for sure - but [b]MAKE PHONE CALLS TOO[/b] - every month!! (or every week even) [b]And when you call your particular representative, ask for a written response specific to your concern, i.e. "assault weapon and high-cap magazine ban".[/b] (they probably won't give written responses to nonconstituents but it doesn't hurt to ask). [b]PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES:[/b] [b]* [url=http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/]George W. Bush[/url][/b] DC (202)456-1111 [b]US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES:[/b] [B]* [url=http://www.house.gov/writerep/]Locate And Contact YOUR Representative.[/url][/b] [b][u]SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE[/u]:[/b] [b]* [url=http://www.house.gov/hastert/]Rep. Dennis Hastert, R-IL[/url][/b] DC (202)225-2976 IL (630)406-1114 Office of Rep. Dennis Hastert 235 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 [b][u]HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER[/u]:[/b] [B]* [url=http://tomdelay.house.gov/contactme.htm]Rep. Tom DeLay, R-TX[/url][/b] DC (202)225-5951 TX (281)240-3700 Office of Rep. Tom DeLay 242 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 [b][u]CHAIRMAN, HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE[/u]:[/b] [B]* [url=http://www.house.gov/sensenbrenner/contact.htm]Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., R-WI[/url][/b] DC (202)225-5101 WI (262)784-1111 Office of Rep. James Sensenbrenner 2449 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515-4905 [b][u]CHAIRMAN, HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME TERRORISM AND HOMELAND SECURITY[/u]: [/b] [B]* [url=http://www.house.gov/coble/]Rep. Howard Coble, R-NC[/url][/b] DC (202)225-3065 SC (336)333-5005 Office of Rep. Howard Coble 2468 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-3306 [b]US SENATE:[/b] [b]* [url=http://www.senate.gov/]Locate And Contact YOUR Senators.[/url][/b] [b][u]SENATE MAJORITY LEADER[/u]:[/b] [b]* [url=http://www.senate.gov/~frist/]Sen. Bill Frist, R-TN[/url][/b] DC (202)224-3344 TN (615)352-9411 Office of Senator Bill Frist 461 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 [b][u]SENATE MAJORITY WHIP[/u]: [/b] [b]* [url=http://mcconnell.senate.gov/]Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-KY[/url][/b] DC (202)224-2541 KY (859)224-8286 Office of Senator Mitch McConnell 361-A Russell Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 [b][u]CHAIRMAN, SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE[/u]: [/b] [B]* [url=http://www.senate.gov/~hatch/]Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, R-UT[/url][/b] DC (202)224-5251 UT (801)524-4380 Office of Senator Orrin Hatch 104 Hart Office Building Washington, DC 20510 [b][u]CHAIRMAN, SENATE SUBCOMITTEE ON CRIME, CORRECTIONS AND VICTIMS' RIGHTS[/u]: [/b] [B]* [url=http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/one_item_and_teasers/graham.htm]Sen. Lindsey O. Graham, R-SC[/url][/b] DC (202)224-5972 SC (864)250-1417 Office of Senator Lindsey Graham United States Senate Washington DC 20510 Also contact "conservative" talkshow hosts and voice your opposition to Bush's stance on the AWB. Here's some contacts for the 'movers and shakers' in conservative talkshows to keep up the buzz: * Rush Limbaugh: [email]Rush@eibnet.com[/email] * Bill O'Reilly: [email]oreilly@foxnews.com[/email] * Sean Hannity: [url]http://www.hannity.com/index.cfm/bay/content.contact.htm[/url] * Shepard Smith: [email]Foxreport@foxnews.com[/email] * Brit Hume: [email]Special@foxnews.com[/email] * Micheal Savage: [email]paulreveresociety@yahoo.com[/email] * Micheal Medved: [url]http://www.michaelmedved.com/contact.shtml[/url] * Neal Boortz: [email]boortzshow@cox.com[/email] * Dennis Prager: [email]dennisprager@dennisprager.com[/email] * Mike Gallagher: [email]mike@mikeonline.com[/email] * Hugh Hewitt: [email]hhewitt@hughhewitt.com[/email] * G. Gordon Liddy: [email]liddyshow@aol.com[/email] * Laura Ingraham: [email]suggestions@lauraingraham.com[/email] * Oliver North: [url]http://www.northamerican.com/-cybercall/pg-call.htm[/url] And here's my short, sweet, hard-to-beat Email to them: ================================================================== [b][u]Subject: "Assault Weapon" Ban -[/u] Dear (name), When President Bush recently restated that he supported the "current assault weapon ban" he put his re-election in jeopardy. This issue is growing day-by-day as is the opposition to ANY new "assault weapon" bill among millions of gunowners - including the NRA. Our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms specifically DOES include 'military-style' firearms - a fact the Supreme Court has affirmed in 1939 (US v Miller) and again in 1980 (Lewis v US). If President Bush signs ANY extension or expansion of the "assault weapon" ban, he will NOT be re-elected in 2004. Period. Gunowners are growing stronger, more organized, more vocal and more active. The "gun-control" issue was a major factor in the success of conservative Republicans in both the 2000 and 2002 elections and will continue to be so in the future. I do hope President Bush doesn't forget about that fact - or else he can just forget about being re-elected too. Sincerely, The_Macallan.[/b] ==================================================================
Link Posted: 6/11/2003 7:21:24 AM EDT
I contacted my Rep and his said this bill didn't stand a chance. He also reaffirmed his commitment to fight infringements upon our Second Amendment rights. Thanks to the (Very) Honorable Henry Brown (R-SC).
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 3:41:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By coltshorty14: IN 1994 DID YOU ALSO DOUBT THAT THE CRIME BILL/AW BAN WOULD PASS, BECAUSE IT TOO WAS IN CONFLICT WITH OUR SECOND AMMENDMENT RIGHTS? A armed nation that lets it's govenment rule them so subversivly, with restrictive laws and illegal taxes, does not deserve to be armed.
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No, I did the same things I'm doing now, but as stated by others this is a SERIOUS attempt at gutting the second ammendment, one which most all but the true commies like my worthless congresswoman (the [b]Honorably Stupid Ms. Shelia Jackson Lee[/b], who not only returns my mail, but is world famous for the statement to a JPL/NASA engineer "can the little Mars rover drive over to where the astronauts planted the American flag?"), will risk voting for it.
Of course you meant $0.37 or just 37 cents. I hate it when people do not use units properly. I see it in the produce section at the grocery stores all of the time. I mean 1/100th the price!! Back up the truck, we're stocking up!!![
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I do so enjoy comments from the anal-retentive, get a life.... Mike
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 3:46:52 AM EDT
Would'ja believe there is a POLITICS and ACTIVISM forum here? Just curious. The forum nazi
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:03:29 AM EDT
Mug, Why are you always picking on these guys? You are way too smart to be wasting your time on little issues like where people should post each subject. So, in the mean time, why don't you just sit down and have a nice cup of ..... [img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadAvatar.asp?sAccountUnq=23342[/img]
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 2:21:01 PM EDT
Any law that will protect police is a good law in my book. Lots of law enforcement organizations support this bill and you all should too, that is unless you are a cop hater.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 2:46:45 PM EDT
2 emails away.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 3:54:19 PM EDT
Can anyone tell me where Kentucky's congressman stand on the issue. I just wanna get a feel for what they think so I know how to format my letter. thanks.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:11:07 PM EDT
I have written both of my senators and my congressman. I will be damned if I will remain quiet about this threat to our 2nd Amendment rights!
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