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Posted: 8/31/2005 4:47:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 4:59:50 PM EDT by bear3351]
This is actually a repost of what I posted last year as a tribute to the Russian's war on terror. In my honest opinion, their tragedy was worse than ours for the simple fact of who was targeted and how long the terror was carried out. They raped little girls and shot babies who cried too much. When some boys had snuck out to the court yard to drink from a hose, a muslim terrorist leveled a grenade launcher at them and blew the whole group up. (As reported in the NY Post today.) Additionally, when a female muslim terrorist pleaded with a male muslim terrorist to allow children to drink, he exploded her vest, which sent her brains onto the children nearby. (NY Post)

Even though this terrorist act cannot be compared to any muslim terrorist act and is the worst in history, you still found silence from the clerics and pride from middle eastern muslims, who thought this attack was an act of allah clensing the world of the heathens. These are truly a tolerant and loving people.

May they find the same fate.

Here is the post, please forgive any dead pic links. I tried to check most of them.

Never Forgive, Never Forget,
Greg AKA Balzac72


Survivor recounts horror in Russian school

Captors laugh as children, elderly faint

Friday, September 3, 2004 Posted: 5:27 PM EDT (2127 GMT)



Chechen MUSLIM rebels are blamed for dozens of attacks in recent years.



BESLAN, Russia (AP) -- Holding up the corpse of a man just shot dead in front of hundreds of hostages at a Russian school, the rebel -- his pockets stuffed with ammunition and grenades -- warned: "If a child utters even a sound, we'll kill another one."

When children fainted from lack of sleep, food and water, their masked and camouflaged captors simply sneered. In the intolerable heat of the gym, adults implored children to drink their own urine.

Hours after escaping alive, a woman who had been taken hostage with her 7-year-old son and her mother spoke of three days of unspeakable horror -- of children so wired with fear they couldn't sleep, of captors coolly threatening to kill off hostages one by one, of a gymnasium so cramped there was hardly room to move.



"We were in complete fear," said Alla Gadieyeva, 24, who spoke to an Associated Press reporter as she lay in a stretcher outside a hospital. "People were praying all the time and those that didn't know how to pray -- we taught them."

The woman told her tale after commandos stormed the school in this southern Russian town, bringing the nation's worst hostage crisis to a head Friday. The carnage left more than 200 people dead and more than 700 people wounded, according to officials. Most of them were women and children.

Children faint, captors laugh

Alla and her mother Irina were in the school courtyard seeing off her son Zaur for his first day of school when they heard sounds like "balloons popping."

She thought the noise was part of school festivities.

It wasn't.

Five rebels suddenly burst into the courtyard, shooting in the air and ordering people to get inside the school. Children, parents, and teachers -- Alla estimated there were about 1,000 in all -- were corralled into a corner on the ground floor and then pushed into the gymnasium.

Alla said children whimpered in fear, and all around there was screaming and crying. The hostages were forced to crouch, their hands folded over their heads.

For the rebels, the first order of business was confiscating cell phones. They smashed the phones and made the following threat: "If we find any mobile phones, we will shoot 20 people all around you."

On Day 1, people got a tiny bit of water to drink, but no food. From Day 2, Alla said, nothing.

When she asked the rebels for water for her mother, they laughed at her.

"My mother was terrified, and I thought she was having a heart attack. When I saw my son, my mother ... go unconscious, so tired, so thirsty, I wanted it all to come to an end," she said.

"When children began to faint, they laughed," Alla said. "They were totally indifferent."

During the ordeal, Zaur became so traumatized that he would flinch whenever someone would touch him, or even brush by him. Like other children, his only spells of sleep were the times he fell unconscious from thirst and exhaustion.

When asked how her son would remember the ordeal, Alla replied: "How can a person ever forget it? Would you ever forget it?"

Bombs hung from ceiling

As Alla spoke under a grove of spruce trees, she had not yet been reunited with her mother or son, although authorities confirmed to her that they were alive.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 4:48:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 4:52:07 PM EDT by bear3351]
She recounted how the hostage-takers eventually took off their masks. They had beards, long hair, and spoke with Chechen accents, she said.

When children started to faint from thirst, the adults urged them to urinate. It was so they could drink their own urine, Alla said.

We'll shoot until our guns stop. And when our guns stop, we'll blow up the building.

-- Captor in Russian school


The gymnasium was quickly transformed into an arsenal of explosives -- bombs dangling from the ceiling, set on the floor, strung up on walls. She said they seemed to be homemade, primitive packages containing bolts and nails.



"They're not human beings,"
Alla said. "What they did to us, I can't understand."

On Day 3, early in the afternoon, the explosions erupted, under circumstances that still remain somewhat unclear. What is known is that emergency workers had arrived at the time -- apparently with the militants' permission -- to collect the bodies of those who had been executed. Russian authorities insist they did not plan a raid.



Suddenly, there were blasts inside and outside the gym, Alla said. In the chaos, she couldn't figure out how they were set off. Gunfire followed. As the fight intensified, the rebels betrayed agitation for the first time.

"We'll shoot until our guns stop," a rebel announced to the crowd. "And when our guns stop, we'll blow up the building."

Making an escape

The hostage-takers began pushing people out of the gym and into the basement. That created an opening for the hostages: They began breaking windows and fleeing. Some captives literally started pushing children outside.

Alla said she helped her son and mother out of a window. She didn't manage to get out.



For some reason, a six-year-old boy -- whom she didn't know -- was drawn to Alla. She held him in her arms. He clung to her, she said, "as if he would never let go."



A group of hostages, including Alla and the boy, then made a rush for a set of doors in the gymnasium. As they fled, she noticed the bodies of captives strewn on the floor -- shot by the rebels, it seemed, as they battled Russian security forces who swarmed the area.

Some Russian soldiers appeared as they reached the doors. "At first I didn't believe it," she said. "I thought they were Chechens."



Her doubts soon vanished.

It's OK, the soldiers told her. "You're home now."



As Alla told her tale, townspeople kept coming up to her, asking her about the fate of their loved-ones.

A man, around 20, asked Alla if she knew what had happened to one of the captives, a woman.

She's dead, Alla replied.

The man bit his lip. He nodded.


And then he turned away.





Rest in Peace:



Rest in Peace:



Rest in Peace:



Rest in Peace;




Bodies of schoolchildren and hostages killed in a school seizure seen in a hospital morgue in Beslan, North Ossetia, Friday, Sept. 3, 2004.

Rest in Peace:



Ossetian men carry a coffin with the body of 2-year-old Georgy Daurov during his funeral in Beslan, southern Russia, Tuesday, Sept. 7, 2004. Daurov's grandmother and father were also killed during the siege and his sister remains hospitalized.



Rest in peace



Rest in peace



Rest in peace







Aftermath of the gym in School Number One



Packed into the school gym with wired explosives attached to the basketball hoop



Hostages in gym with blood trail on floor



Mourning for Irina, age 13, and Alina, age 12







Kids were their goal.



No child was too young























Before the terrorists murdered little babies and raped little girls.



















Heroes to the rescue....





















What terror looks like in a child's eyes.







What would you look like if this massacre had happened to your child's school?















Images a parent should never see....











Reminds me of that famous Vietnam pic...











May God bless them and hold the victims close for eternity. May the victims families take solice in knowing that their sons, daughters and wives will sit on the right hand of our Father away from the evils of this world.



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MURDEROUS COWARDS - BURN IN HELL








Link Posted: 8/31/2005 4:52:45 PM EDT
Savages.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 4:53:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:
Savages.



And they should be treated as such...



- BG
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 4:54:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 4:55:28 PM EDT by Tango7]
Those are some truly stunning pictures.

Most of those never made it stateside, IIRC.

May the innocents rest in peace.





May the murderous cowards who kill children in the name of "God" rest in pieces.

Preferably mixed with pork fat and feces.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 4:57:04 PM EDT
ROP

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 4:58:56 PM EDT
Yeah, this won't get locked.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:01:19 PM EDT
times a million....
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:02:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 5:33:57 PM EDT by ChrisLe]
Absolutely everything I have to say regarding those responsible and their ideology is a COC violation......I'll leave it at that...
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:04:37 PM EDT
My feeling haven't changed in that time one bit.

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Free Balzac, it's the right thing to do.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:05:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Burley:
Yeah, this won't get locked.



That's how Balzac got banned, because he was defending this thread.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:07:11 PM EDT
CoC violations or not, no excuse to prevent us from remembering what happended last year or 4 years ago.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:07:40 PM EDT
Man...

A sterling example of the cruelty man can do to his fellow man. And child.

This is no "anniversary" - this is an observance for those children.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:07:42 PM EDT
I pray that it never happens here or again.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:11:08 PM EDT
Fucking savages. The only thing such actions accomplish is to give your enemy the will to go Medieval on your ass.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:13:30 PM EDT


I have most of these pictures saved in a folder, I look at them from time to time to remind myself of who and what the enemy are.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:16:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bear3351:

Originally Posted By Burley:
Yeah, this won't get locked.



That's how Balzac got banned, because he was defending this thread.




I will defend this thread any day.
I remember a lot more images in the original, unless that was a different one he posted.

I remember how that whole thing went down...regardless of opinions about balzac, this thread needs to be remembered. As far as I am converned, those childrens lives have yet to be avenged.

I will leave it at that.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:46:54 PM EDT
Wow.....seems like it was longer than a year ago.........thanks for the reminder........lest we never forget the suffering that has yet to go unpunished.........
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:54:42 PM EDT
Sweet Jesus......

I hate them. I hate them all. I'd push the button on them with a smile.

I'm going to shut up now before I join Balzac.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:58:04 PM EDT
Only a matter of time before the ROP does something similar here.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:01:14 PM EDT
Was there ever any fallout in Chechnya over this?
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:07:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Black_Talon:
Only a matter of time before the ROP does something similar here.



Not the ROP!

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:07:49 PM EDT

May God bless them and hold the victims close for eternity. May the victims families take solice in knowing that their sons, daughters and wives will sit on the right hand of our Father away from the evils of this world.


Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:09:41 PM EDT
tag for later
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:10:07 PM EDT
Like I need any more incentive to hate...

ah, nevermind!
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:10:46 PM EDT
I have that SWAT magazine article on Beslan in a special place, and I read it every once in a while.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:11:24 PM EDT
It's amazing, they are literally sub-human...pure evil.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:12:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bear3351:

Originally Posted By Burley:
Yeah, this won't get locked.



That's how Balzac got banned, because he was defending this thread.




who banned Balzac? Did a specific person fess up or was it a vague "staff decision"?
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:12:23 PM EDT
I haven't posted here since Balzac was banned...more because I'm a lazy bastard...but still...he did a lot for this site and I never understood the decision to boot him in the first place...

In any event...yeah...those images really stick you in the gut...
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:13:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Black_Talon:
Only a matter of time before the ROP does something similar here.



I fear you're right.

...and the retribution will be swift and brutal.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:15:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:

Originally Posted By Black_Talon:
Only a matter of time before the ROP does something similar here.



I fear you're right.

...and the retribution will be swift and brutal.




Bullshit. The usual suspects will blame Bush and the United States.

If 9/11 didn't wake this country the fuck up and KEEP it awake, then NOTHING will.

Sad to say....
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:18:01 PM EDT
September 11th taught me all I needed to know about Islam, Beslan just taught me that they all need to die, every last single child raping child killing bastard son of a sheep raping leprous syphilitic mother fucking whore ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:19:20 PM EDT
Well...it's already been a year...

I know what's coming, so...

IBTL
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:22:05 PM EDT
These ASSHOLES will rue the day I was born in about 9 months.

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Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:23:37 PM EDT
May God watch over all soldiers fighting the War On Terrorhug.gif
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:28:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
September 11th taught me all I needed to know about Islam, Beslan just taught me that they all need to die, every last single child raping child killing bastard son of a sheep raping leprous syphilitic mother fucking whore ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!



I couldn't agree with you more.

They'll get to my family over my dead body.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:39:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:41:26 PM EDT
Supposedly ~25 members of the Chechnyan group that did this atrocity crossed the US/Mexican border and have not been found.

And they wonder why I want the border closed.

Saying anything else will get me banned for telling the truth about such monsters.

wganz

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:45:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 6:45:35 PM EDT by Schulze]

Originally Posted By wganz:
Supposedly ~25 members of the Chechnyan group that did this atrocity crossed the US/Mexican border and have not been found.

And they wonder why I want the border closed.

Saying anything else will get me banned for telling the truth about such monsters.

wganz




No kidding? Do you have a source with further info?
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:55:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 7:05:10 PM EDT by thebeekeeper1]
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:59:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
The bottom line is, no one is above the Conduct Code, especially after numerous warnings.



Even if you have over 40,000 posts
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:59:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 7:06:22 PM EDT by bear3351]

Originally Posted By Schulze:

Originally Posted By wganz:
Supposedly ~25 members of the Chechnyan group that did this atrocity crossed the US/Mexican border and have not been found.

And they wonder why I want the border closed.

Saying anything else will get me banned for telling the truth about such monsters.

wganz




No kidding? Do you have a source with further info?




Here you go:

www.washtimes.com/national/20041013-121643-5028r.htm
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:02:37 PM EDT
FREE BALZAC!!!

-d
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:08:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Sweet Jesus......

I hate them. I hate them all. I'd push the button on them with a smile.

I'm going to shut up now before I join Balzac.



I'm there with you man. My feelings towards Islam changed forever after that incident.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:21:16 PM EDT
I hate to think the things I would do if that happened at my daughters school
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:51:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/1/2005 3:58:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/1/2005 9:18:45 AM EDT
There are so many sick people in the world it is unbelievable. As the human race, we will never be able to "take care" of these people in some capacity. Just need to deal with them one by one... even if that includes "removing" them from the human race.

-d
Link Posted: 9/1/2005 9:33:45 AM EDT
yep, balzac was a good guy and it's a damned shame he's banned

i cannot express my feelings on this matter whatsoever. to do so would be to ban myself.
Link Posted: 9/1/2005 9:35:28 AM EDT
Here's to Balzac72, his post, and his courage to actually call a spade a spade even in the face of certain banning.
Link Posted: 9/1/2005 9:44:19 AM EDT
damn, how could this get locked? seriously!

the scum involved in this have all been killed with the exception of 1 guy who is going on trial in russia. that's what i heard on the radio yesterday.
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