Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Posted: 12/9/2005 5:35:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 6:19:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Good for Bushmaster!
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 9:28:35 PM EDT
[#2]
+1 for Bushmaster
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 9:32:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Sorry....can't resist...


8.) Posting repeat topics with similar or slightly varying titles. While it may seem to be funny, the "spamming" of the community in this manner results in problems for users and management. (Multiple topics on important issues or discussions are acceptable, this only applies to topics which waste resources for no other reason except personal enjoyment or humor.)

Link Posted: 12/10/2005 3:43:31 AM EDT
[#4]
The fact that Colt spent its resources on sucha dead-end matter speaks to its long and continuing
decine in market share, quality, and customer service. Colt, my virtue of its name recognition and early military contracts, squandered a golden opportunity to dominate these markets.

In my experience, run away from the products of any company that negatively attacks its competition. It's a sure sign that it cannot compete on the merits of its products and service.

The short version: Colt's actions and total defeat speak volumes.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 5:59:03 AM EDT
[#5]
YAY for Bushmaster's win in court!

After the way Colt and Ruger have treated the law abiding civilian market, I do my best to avoid products from either manufacturer.  Colt has neutered their AR-15 to where it is a royal PITA to drop a two stage trigger in it.  Ruger (and this may have changed) did not allow civilian sales of their factory high capacity pistol magazines with the purchase of a new handgun AFTER the AWB sunsetted in '04.  The only exceptions I would make would be for a 1911 or a Red/Blackhawk, assuming the deal is great.  As for a new purchase from Colt or Ruger, forget it.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 6:42:53 AM EDT
[#6]
This is good news for Bushmaster, HK, and any other company wanting to provide high quality AR's to both the civilian and military end-user.  

Kudos.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 6:56:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Does this remove any roadblocks or Bushy if they want .mil contract?  Like Bushy, or not,, this is good for the market.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 9:14:01 AM EDT
[#8]
Great news for Bushmaster, sorry Colt but you brought this upon yourself.

I'm not 100% clear on the ruling though.

Does this mean that a Bushmaster lower marked 'M16', 'M4' etc. would be legally possible -without Colt crying like a baby- or is it just OK for advertising use, or use as a generic moniker describing a specific type of black rifle; Like the way we use the term AR15?
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 10:17:16 AM EDT
[#9]
LOL!!
Good for Bushmaster and the industry. Colt's arrogance just got bitch slapped. I love it!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 10:51:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Dupe
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=260152




Yay for Bushmaster by the way.  I thought it was truly arrogant for Colt to attempt to trademark a military designation, and am glad that the court ruled the way it did in this case.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 5:31:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Knocked 'em down a peg!






I'm still a diehard Colt fan though!
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 7:29:07 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
This is good news for Bushmaster, HK, and any other company wanting to provide high quality AR's to both the civilian and military end-user.  

Kudos.



+1 - particularly for HK, which seemed to really be under the gun by Colt's legal machine.  
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 8:24:57 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 11:58:26 PM EDT
[#14]
GO BUSHMASTER

Link Posted: 12/11/2005 2:40:20 AM EDT
[#15]
+1 for Bushmaster. Colt needs to wake up and smell the CLP.
Link Posted: 12/11/2005 11:03:51 AM EDT
[#16]
The CLP? More like the CLAP, which has rotted it's brain. That does not add up since [ colt - bollocks = gelding ] anyway. As for the aforementioned HK, they can go hang IMO. The AWB has sunset and the bill against junk lawsuits against gun manufacturers is now law. Any gun manufacturer that still acts PC to civilians deserves to wither and die on the vine. If Colt wants to sue HK, let them. IMO it is like watching a drug dealer and a pimp trying to kill each other... WHO CARES!!! Ah, the joy of it. I will just kick back and watch the fun.

Way to go Bushmaster!

Shoot_Blue_Helmets

Link Posted: 12/11/2005 2:12:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Outstanding!!

Way to go Bushy!!

David
Link Posted: 12/11/2005 2:50:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Hey hey hey what about my 10+ page thread

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=260152
Link Posted: 12/11/2005 7:37:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Thats great for bushmaster!!
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 4:53:43 PM EDT
[#20]
Congrats bushmaster!  
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:24:00 AM EDT
[#21]
Ding dong the witch is dead... Colt scmolt ...  hooray Bushy!
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 10:58:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Go BUSHMASTER!!!
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 11:59:09 AM EDT
[#23]
Colt's just trying to protect any Trademark that they can. Anyone in business would probably try to do this. I know I would, if I was trying to save a company in trouble. Must be a lot of non-Colt owners out there. I'm Sorry............. Quality is not an issue with Colt. Unlike some other M4 style rifles. Colt is only guilty of running their business poorly........Bushmaster fan's - be nice.
Link Posted: 12/17/2005 12:35:41 PM EDT
[#24]
.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 2:48:34 PM EDT
[#25]
Outstanding news! I hate it when the "big companies" with a few govt. contracts tries to bully the rest of the industry. Besides, I think Bushmaster puts out a better product than Colt anyway.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:17:28 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Besides, I think Bushmaster puts out a better product than Colt anyway.




Thats why I gotta buy a new receiver extension in order to put a Crane stock on, right?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:47:51 PM EDT
[#27]
So do I own a "REAL" M4 now?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:50:42 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
So do I own a "REAL" M4 now?



Does it say "Property of US Government" and "Safe-Semi-Burst" on the side and come with a carbon copy of an enlistment contract? Then no.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 9:31:03 AM EDT
[#29]
Does this mean that we'll see rifles marked AR15 instead of M15 or LAR15 or XM15? I think it would be nice to see it happen. Well I guess I should go get me a Bushmaster now. I am glad that they stood up to Colt and didn't back down. Thanks Arvin
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:40:32 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Besides, I think Bushmaster puts out a better product than Colt anyway.



hats


I have no problems adding new "mil-spec" parts to my Bushmaster A-3.
It's as good a rifle as a Colt, without paying for the "Pony"logo.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 4:15:58 PM EDT
[#31]
How did you manage to get a SOPMOD stock onto a BFI receiver extension? Did you manage to convince them that the M16 carriers WERE legal for ARs? Colt knows that. Did you buy yours with MPI parts, parking under an "F" FSB?
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 6:33:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Maybe Colt will stop trying to sue their way to the top, and actually start catering to customers to stay in business.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 6:55:14 AM EDT
[#33]
I like everything about that article, definitely positive to the manufactures of true spec ar 15 m4 type rifles. As far as i know a true m4 has a 14 1/2 in barrel and m4 feed ramps not a 16 in barrel, and not dremeled or standard ramps.Will companies make false disclaimers in that respect? Or am i wrong on my true m4 specs.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 9:54:42 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
I like everything about that article, definitely positive to the manufactures of true spec ar 15 m4 type rifles. As far as i know a true m4 has a 14 1/2 in barrel and m4 feed ramps not a 16 in barrel, and not dremeled or standard ramps.Will companies make false disclaimers in that respect? Or am i wrong on my true m4 specs.hr

I beileve you are corect to your specs.

Congratulations bushie... I love my AR more and more everyday.
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 6:04:43 PM EDT
[#35]
cool
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 6:09:06 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Maybe Colt will stop trying to sue their way to the top, and actually start catering to customers to stay in business.



They do cater to their customers. Mostly they sell weapons to the government. You don't give them enough money to rate their effort. Free market is a bitch, eh?
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 10:19:54 AM EDT
[#37]
I just don't get it.  In my small part of the world, Colt wants more for their units than nearly any other mfg.  Other mfg.s are putting out really nice complete units, parts & pieces that cost less $$, and as near as i can tell, the top end of just about whoevers does as well as the top end of my Colt unit.  Some  years ago I paid Colt for a history document and it took 3 years & a whole lot of UNnecessary hassle to finally get it.  It was nothing if not absurd, cuz they told me they had received the payment years before.   I think I finally got the paper after I contacted someone there and convinced them that I had been telliing anyone & everyone who asked about the unit that Colt gave the absolute worst service and care of any mfg I had experience with.  Finally they replied and refunded the payment + a bit more.  By then I didn't care and had probably shared that experience with a couple hundred other folks who like the ar style, plus alloYOUSE.

'course, I had an even WORSE experience with my 'The Black Lemon' from para'ordnance.  That one took like 7 years to clear up.   So much for 'wanting'.

Service is all part of the quality  issue in my book, & I seem to get plenty of good service from the other product providers.
HG
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top