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Posted: 9/29/2004 9:41:47 AM EST
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:42:31 AM EST
Another victory!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:42:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:43:28 AM EST
Great news!!! There is hope for others too maybe.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:43:36 AM EST
Unfugginbelievable! Who would have thought it!

Great news for everyone, DC resident or not.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:44:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 9:46:25 AM EST by CavVet]
Wow. Two gun bans repealed in one month. WTF, over??????

Didja notice the vote?

198-22 (R)
52-148 (D)
(I) 1 Nay

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:44:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!



Um. Doesn't the Senate have a
say in this?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:44:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!



Uhm, no they can't. It has to pass the Senate. Then get signed by the President. DC can do NOTHING right now. This is just the first step in the law-making process. Didn't you take Government in High School?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:45:00 AM EST
Well it will be a dangerous day in DC!


I guess they realized after all these years it didn't do anything.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:45:05 AM EST
Damn those Republicans.

Taking away more of our freedoms.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:45:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 9:46:05 AM EST by 223-Buckaroo]

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!




Has this already passed the Senate?



Edit..... Damn you guys are quick !
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:45:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 9:46:29 AM EST by Stormtrooper]
Yes, it is a great step towords getting back to where we once were.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:46:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Damn those Republicans.

Taking away more of our freedoms.



Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:46:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By 223-Buckaroo:

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!




Has this already passed the Senate?



Edit..... Damn you guys are quick !



nope, it was killed twice in the Senate, this year.


TXL
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:48:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 9:48:59 AM EST by BigJ491]

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!



Uhm, no they can't. It has to pass the Senate. Then get signed by the President. DC can do NOTHING right now. This is just the first step in the law-making process. Didn't you take Government in High School?



Well, the senete may kill it, but I don't see that happening.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:51:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
Well, the senete may kill it, but I don't see that happening.


Look one post up. Similar bills have been killed in the Senate already this year.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:54:12 AM EST
just watched it on cspan. that was some good shit!

there is hope afterall!!!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:54:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 9:55:03 AM EST by fight4yourrights]
SLOW DOWN PEOPLE

We've got a long way to go:

- Senate

- President

- Courts over rule the new law
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:55:37 AM EST
Positive is still positive.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:57:01 AM EST
Was there anything tacked on? You know, "For the children?"

Like, "We'll repeal the gun ban, but you get an automatic 50 years in Club Fed for possessing ammunition..." silliness?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 9:59:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
Well, the senete may kill it, but I don't see that happening.


Look one post up. Similar bills have been killed in the Senate already this year.



Similar, but not the same.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:01:58 AM EST
For once, I think time is on our side. The antis just keep losing ground...and traction.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:02:33 AM EST
The only way for senate Democrats to go for it would be to attach a AW Ban on it. Then for it to go back to House and hopefully get defeated.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:03:12 AM EST
By the way....

Should we go for the jugular and tack on a midnight bill repealing the '86 MG ban...like "they" did 18 years ago?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:03:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheCynic:

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!



Um. Doesn't the Senate have a
say in this?



+1
and
Dupe, sort of
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:04:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Damn those Republicans.

Taking away more of our freedoms.




"Yuh see, cuz there's really no difference between the two parties, I mean what have the repblicans actually done ... "

Cincinnatus gets it.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:06:28 AM EST

Am I now allowed to perhaps hypothetically pose that I may or may not have had a Mossie 12ga next to my bed when I lived near the Anacostia in the late 80s-early 90s?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:06:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!




gosh talk about jumping the gun, I hope you know that the senate has to pass it and the POTUS has to sign.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:07:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:11:36 AM EST
Hmm... Any word on whether Bush intends to sign this if it passes?

Sounds like good news, but I'm not so sure it'll pass the Senate. But if it doesn't, we can try again after the next election, which will probably replace a couple of Ds with Rs.

But the best news of all is that we're trying to pass bills like this instead of trying to defeat bills like the AW ban.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:18:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By BigJ491:
The House just passed the repeal of the DC gun ban. The vote went though by about an 80 point margin. DC can again defend itself against crime!




gosh talk about jumping the gun, I hope you know that the senate has to pass it and the POTUS has to sign.



I never did well in social studies class

Yes, I know they have to, but to my knowledge, there were no "extras" tacked onto the bill this time. The House's vote should be indicitive of what the Senate and the President will do. I should have said "Soon" DC can again defend itself against crime...sorry for the bad wording. My secretary is off today, so I have to proofread my own stuff.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:20:05 AM EST
Keep your eyes open folks, watch out for an AWBan rider from Feinswine.

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:20:49 AM EST
Well I say Good News is still Good News. I agree with mace that being on the offensive is always better than having to fight just to keep what's already ours. I'm impressed that the House took up a gutsy bill like this so close to election day. It means 250 of our Representitves know which side of their bread the butter's on!

-YJ

PS Where's my Senator's phone number?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:27:14 AM EST
Assuming that the repeal makes it through the Senate and the President, what will the CCW situation in DC be?
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:48:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:
Assuming that the repeal makes it through the Senate and the President, what will the CCW situation in DC be?



You're getting a little ahead of everything there Gunslinger
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:54:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By darknight:

Originally Posted By thelastgunslinger:
Assuming that the repeal makes it through the Senate and the President, what will the CCW situation in DC be?



You're getting a little ahead of everything there Gunslinger



I know. But I just get so excited about these things
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 10:55:36 AM EST
About time.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:20:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2004 11:22:22 AM EST by NYPatriot]
While this was a nice gesture by House Republicans, I doubt the Senate will move to vote on this issue, and even if they did I doubt the votes are there to pass it.

This was a move to shore up the conservative base of the GOP in a tight election year, nothing more.

Still though, it shows the Republicans realize that they need to take our concerns seriously, and that is a good and positive thing!

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:21:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Damn those Republicans.

Taking away more of our freedoms.





Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:39:10 AM EST
Two comments:

(1) WHEN would the Senate take this up? I'd love to have Kerry's feet to the fire if it arose prior to one of the debates, or at least before November 2. Then, we could really flush him out on his Second Amendment stance (or lack thereof).

(2) Even though it may not be considered by the Senate soon (if at all), it would be a GREAT question for BOTH candidates at the debates.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:42:29 AM EST
Was this just a handgun ban, or an all types of weapons including Ar15's ban?
Does DC allow private ownership of AR15's?

Thanks. . . I don't live there, but I am curious as I didn't know the details.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:47:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4-CQBR:
Was this just a handgun ban, or an all types of weapons including Ar15's ban?
Does DC allow private ownership of AR15's?

Thanks. . . I don't live there, but I am curious as I didn't know the details.



I think everything is illegal there. In Chicago only handguns are illegal.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:49:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By skid2964:



and more
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:49:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
By the way....

Should we go for the jugular and tack on a midnight bill repealing the '86 MG ban...like "they" did 18 years ago?



I honestly doubt that a repeal of the 86 ban would be supported by- influential- gun owners. Remember some of these guys have 20k$ + invested in these things. if the 86 got repealed, prices would plunge and their investment would be worthless. I would bet some of them would fight tooth and nail to keep that ban in place.

Just a guess, I would hope I am wrong.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:49:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Wow. Two gun bans repealed in one month. WTF, over??????

Didja notice the vote?

198-22 (R)
52-148 (D)

(I) 1 Nay



pay attention people!
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:55:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By ipguy:
Two comments:

(1) WHEN would the Senate take this up? I'd love to have Kerry's feet to the fire if it arose prior to one of the debates, or at least before November 2. Then, we could really flush him out on his Second Amendment stance (or lack thereof).



The bill will not be addressed in the Senate this session. Sen. Frist has already indicated that the agenda for this session is full up until recess. This is good news for us because Feinstein has promised to attach a semi-auto ban amendment to this bill and she has the votes to do it right now.

Putting off until next session gives us the opportunity to vote out some anti Senators and hopefully change the March vote tally from a pro-ban Senate to an anti-ban Senate. However, we have to do our part in November, because if we don't it is just a matter of time until a ban does pass the Senate.

Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:58:09 AM EST
I dont have high hopes of it passing in the Senate
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 11:59:52 AM EST
Nice
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:07:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
I dont have high hopes of it passing in the Senate

i think it will have a better chance after the new Senators are sworn in.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 12:30:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By jsmith48:

Originally Posted By M4-CQBR:
Was this just a handgun ban, or an all types of weapons including Ar15's ban?
Does DC allow private ownership of AR15's?

Thanks. . . I don't live there, but I am curious as I didn't know the details.



I think everything is illegal there. In Chicago only handguns are illegal.



This legislation would end the handgun ban, and would also eliminate the current requirements that long guns be stored unloaded AND either dissassembled or locked away. It also gets rid of registration for long guns.
Link Posted: 9/29/2004 1:20:42 PM EST
The best way to determine who's *really supportive* of this kind of legislation is the list of cosponsers. For both these links, click on "Bill Summary and Status" to see votes, cosponsers, etc.

This is the house version:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:2:./temp/~c108xx5DYn::

and the Senate:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:1:./temp/~c108xx5DYn::


I personally like the 2nd Ammendment references in the pre-amble to both bills. This in itself provides a Congressional precedent if I am not mistaken.
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