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Posted: 6/12/2017 4:36:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/1/2018 5:17:50 PM EST by GoatBoy]
Update 10/30/17:

Potential removal of suppressor language
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060064863

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According to Duncan, there are several options including dropping the silencer provision altogether and replacing it with other gun language. He said one idea could add language that would ban or require more stringent licensing for buying bump stocks, a plastic attachment added to semiautomatic weapons that allows them to fire far more rapidly.
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Duncan said it was too soon to say what compromises would be worked out, but he also said he is working to correct "misinformation" spread about the bill that has even made some moderate Republicans uneasy about voting on it. He said he would like the final package to contain the silencer provisions, some language on bumpstocks and national reciprocity."
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Jeff Duncan is the bill's sponsor and needs to hear from "sportsmen" that we will not accept a neutured bill that removes the suppressor deregulation language from the bill.

FIREMISSION
Contact Speaker Ryan HERE to urge him to bring the SHARE Act to a full vote in the house.

Contact your rep HERE to urge them to support the SHARE Act.

ETA: Here's a direct link to the bill (thanks jmhal)

Passed committee, here's a link to an article about it. SHARE Act Passage

Link to most viewed bills in the House. As of 9/27, HPA was #2 and SHARE was #3. Link

This link brings you to the bill itself (the text is not currently online however). Cicking this link apparently affects the "most viewed" link above, which is updated every Monday.

TITLE XVIII—LAWFUL PURPOSE AND SELF-DEFENSE
Sec. 1801. Short title.
Sec. 1802. Elimination of authority to reclassify popular rifle ammunition as
‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’.
Sec. 1803. Elimination of restrictions on importation of non-National Firearms
Act firearm or ammunition that may otherwise be lawfully possessed
and sold in the United States.
Sec. 1804. Protection of shotguns, shotgun shells, and large caliber rifles from
arbitrary classification as ‘‘destructive devices’’.
Sec. 1805. Broadening of the temporary interstate transfer provision to allow
temporary transfers for all lawful purposes rather than just for
‘‘sporting purposes’’.
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Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:37:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/12/2017 4:38:47 PM EST by MNSwede]
What does it do? Give me a boner

No more sporting clause for importation
No more ATF rulings on ammo
No more restricting ammo from importation
No more over .50 caliber = DD
That last one I'm hazy on, maybe buying handguns across state lines?
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:39:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MNSwede:
What does it do? Give me a boner

No more sporting clause for importation
No more ATF rulings on ammo
No more restricting ammo from importation
No more over .50 caliber = DD
That last one I'm hazy on, maybe buying handguns across state lines?
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And with the HPA addition, reclassification of suppressors as Title I firearms.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:40:28 PM EST
I think it means Chinese (Norinco?) AK47's (Mak90's) and M1A's will be allowed to be imported again to the US.

I also think that that 5.45X39 ammo called 7N6 will be allowed to be imported again.

Maybe we can get Saiga 12s in an already converted over or non-sporterized versions??
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:41:52 PM EST
Its going to be like 86 all over again..
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Its going to be like 86 all over again..
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Huh?
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:43:03 PM EST
My bank account hopes it doesn't pass.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:43:09 PM EST
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yay
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:44:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By strider98:

And with the HPA addition, reclassification of suppressors as Title I firearms.
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with preemption, forbidding states and local governments from imposing taxes and registration. Which I don't remember being in the original.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:44:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By strider98:
Huh?
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Originally Posted By strider98:
Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Its going to be like 86 all over again..
Huh?
"Compromise"

Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:45:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tyman:
No NFA or suppressor shit though.
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I was under the impression that they rolled the HPA into the SHARE bill. So the HPA would pass with it.

Maybe I'm way off though.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:45:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tyman:
No NFA or suppressor shit though.
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Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer will pay the 10% tax.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:46:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By carguym14:



Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer consumer will pay the 10% tax.
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FIFY.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:48:17 PM EST
If it means 7.62x25 comes back, I'll be a happy camper. The Ppsh will live again. Also, does it mean WW2 german rifles G43, G41 will start being importable from Russia again?
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:48:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert:
I was under the impression that they rolled the HPA into the SHARE bill. So the HPA would pass with it.

Maybe I'm way off though.
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert:
Originally Posted By tyman:
No NFA or suppressor shit though.
I was under the impression that they rolled the HPA into the SHARE bill. So the HPA would pass with it.

Maybe I'm way off though.
Yep, title XVII is the HPA rolled in.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:48:36 PM EST
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
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Originally Posted By carguym14:



Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer will pay the 10% tax.
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oh, i was going off what the OP posted, not the entirety of the bill
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:48:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
FIFY.
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Originally Posted By carguym14:



Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer consumer will pay the 10% tax.
FIFY.
Yeah,but you don't even notice it.

Kind of like when people look at their paycheck-no one pays attention to all the taxes taken out,only what they are getting.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:48:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
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Yep,there's only a handful of people in the US that could possibly make suppressors.............
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:50:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By carguym14:



Yeah,but you don't even notice it.

Kind of like when people look at their paycheck-no one pays attention to all the taxes taken out,only what they are getting.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:50:30 PM EST
Subscribed
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:50:46 PM EST
In for the surprise ass fucking.




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Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
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Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:52:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Originally Posted By carguym14:



Yeah,but you don't even notice it.

Kind of like when people look at their paycheck-no one pays attention to all the taxes taken out,only what they are getting.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

Don't forget it is also 100% legal to manufacturer your own title I firearm.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:52:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:


Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

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You won't though...Economies of scale much? The sheer number of suppressors that will flood the market and the innovation involved with new brands finding their market niche will make the floor fall out of the suppressor market.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:52:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:


You won't though...Economies of scale much? The sheer number of suppressors that will flood the market and the innovation involved with new brands finding their market niche will make the floor fall out of the suppressor market.
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yup they will be disposible/rebuildable which will make them super cheap..
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:53:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
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I swear, some of you guys would complain if you were hung with a new rope.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:53:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bcmrofl:
Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.
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Originally Posted By bcmrofl:
Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.
Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:54:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bcmrofl:


Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.
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I'm fine with this, or something like Primary Arms forays into the red dot world.

I don't need SEAL Team Six cans if I can pick them up and leave with them.
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By bcmrofl:
Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.
Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.
Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:54:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By strider98:
I swear, some of you guys would complain if you were hung with a new rope.
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Originally Posted By strider98:
Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
I swear, some of you guys would complain if you were hung with a new rope.
And some guys will never get sarcasm.....................
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:56:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By strider98:

Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.
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IIRC its all plastic.. Rather cool disposible unit..

I like they have entrys about Lead use in ammo.. about time..
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:56:49 PM EST
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Direct link added to OP. Thx.
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Originally Posted By MNSwede:

That last one I'm hazy on, maybe buying handguns across state lines?
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Currently you are only allowed to temporarily loan a firearm to a resident of another state for a "sporting purpose". ATF has interpreted sporting purpose as traditional hunting and sport shooting (trap & skeet) purposes. They don't consider self protection, IDPA, 3gun, etc as a "sporting purpose"
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:57:53 PM EST
The real question is this, what are the odds it will pass?
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
I think it means Chinese (Norinco?) AK47's (Mak90's) and M1A's will be allowed to be imported again to the US....
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The ban on Chinese firearms is due to a Presidential Order issued by Bush1.

Bush sanctions on China
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:59:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By strider98:
Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.
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Originally Posted By strider98:
Originally Posted By carguym14:
Originally Posted By bcmrofl:
Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  
Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.
Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.
Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 4:59:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 20229mm:
The real question is this, what are the odds it will pass?
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With the RINOS in running congress, low to very low. They are too busy conspiring against the president.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 5:00:02 PM EST
IN for the disappointment
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Originally Posted By 20229mm:
The real question is this, what are the odds it will pass?
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725 to 1
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Originally Posted By 20229mm:
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Shhhhhhh
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 5:00:57 PM EST
so..once this passes will all the dickface whiners shit up about trump?
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
I think it means Chinese (Norinco?) AK47's (Mak90's) and M1A's will be allowed to be imported again to the US.

I also think that that 5.45X39 ammo called 7N6 will be allowed to be imported again.

Maybe we can get Saiga 12s in an already converted over or non-sporterized versions??
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Does that mean Harbor Freight will be getting their FFL and slinging Norinco goodies by the container ship load?
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 5:03:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
FIFY.
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Originally Posted By carguym14:



Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer consumer will pay the 10% tax.
FIFY.
Unless they build one


Originally Posted By bcmrofl:


Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 $70 cans.
FIFY
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Originally Posted By w33b8t1:
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You must have never searched "solvent trap" lol

I could be wrong, but title one means that we can 80% them.
Link Posted: 6/12/2017 5:06:00 PM EST
Nice, but still won't pass.
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