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Posted: 2/21/2016 12:13:43 PM EST
Found this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184NT050?refRID=1ECDVWJKN8H1A9N6D856&ref_=pd_rhf_yast_p_img_3
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 12:19:42 PM EST
No.
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Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
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Uh....yes. Just because they added a background doesn't get them a pass.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 12:31:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 50cal:

Uh....yes. Just because they added a background doesn't get them a pass.
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Originally Posted By 50cal:
Originally Posted By GADeerHunter:
No.

Uh....yes. Just because they added a background doesn't get them a pass.



It's not even close.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 3:54:34 PM EST
Well I think its close,
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 3:56:09 PM EST
Lol
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 3:57:24 PM EST
not the same and doesn't confuse me


Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:06:39 PM EST
It's close enough.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:11:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By dempsy1:
Found this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184NT050?refRID=1ECDVWJKN8H1A9N6D856&ref_=pd_rhf_yast_p_img_3
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Just for shits and giggles, why do you even care?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:12:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BoilingToad:
Just for shits and giggles, why do you even care?
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Originally Posted By BoilingToad:
Originally Posted By dempsy1:
Found this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184NT050?refRID=1ECDVWJKN8H1A9N6D856&ref_=pd_rhf_yast_p_img_3
Just for shits and giggles, why do you even care?


Come now, we all know why these threads come up!
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:18:47 PM EST
I would think Colt actually would have dibs on any bolt face likeness, since they bought the Armalite patents.
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Originally Posted By BoilingToad:
Just for shits and giggles, why do you even care?
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Originally Posted By BoilingToad:
Originally Posted By dempsy1:
Found this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184NT050?refRID=1ECDVWJKN8H1A9N6D856&ref_=pd_rhf_yast_p_img_3
Just for shits and giggles, why do you even care?

Free team membership.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:22:04 PM EST
This is how I got my membership, cheers!
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:55:09 PM EST
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Looks like they added a background and some 3D effects to the edges.

I'm thinking they knew exactly what they were copying and were hoping it was "different enough" to get a free pass on it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:06:55 PM EST
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:08:42 PM EST
If I take a picture of the bolt face on a AR carrier group is that copyright infringement?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:10:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cedjunior:

Free team membership.
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Originally Posted By cedjunior:
Originally Posted By BoilingToad:
Originally Posted By dempsy1:
Found this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0184NT050?refRID=1ECDVWJKN8H1A9N6D856&ref_=pd_rhf_yast_p_img_3
Just for shits and giggles, why do you even care?

Free team membership.

Bingo!
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:10:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sporter:
If I take a picture of the bolt face on a AR carrier group is that copyright infringement?
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No.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:10:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sporter:
If I take a picture of the bolt face on a AR carrier group is that copyright infringement?
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No. If you make a stylized drawing and then sell it for profit, yes.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:14:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous
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I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:19:22 PM EST
Extractor and ejector are way different.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:23:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Matt_mg:
Extractor and ejector are way different.
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This. I don't think it's close enough to qualify.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:24:11 PM EST
Nice try, but you'll have to pay the $24 to get your bronze star.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:26:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:32:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.

Kinda like the BBC & blue police call boxes? Someone else's invention from years ago, but the BBC owns the rights to the image.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:38:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Pony151515:


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.
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Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:40:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLD05:


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?
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Originally Posted By TLD05:
Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?

If you then put it on a hat or t-shirt or anything and sell it for profit, yes. It's all about the profit.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:48:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLD05:


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?
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If you stylize the extractor and ejector the same way yes, otherwise it's up to you and your lawyer :p
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:50:19 PM EST
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Doesn't make me think arfcom
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:51:04 PM EST
Again?
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Originally Posted By Matt_mg:

If you stylize the extractor and ejector the same way yes, otherwise it's up to you and your lawyer :p
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Originally Posted By Matt_mg:
Originally Posted By TLD05:


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?

If you stylize the extractor and ejector the same way yes, otherwise it's up to you and your lawyer :p

I got you, so it mostly comes down to those two stylized elements of the ARFCOM logo.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:53:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLD05:
Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?


I think it would be nearly impossible to recreate the arf logo without doing it in purpose.

Also, as a later poster said, another big factor is about trying to use it to make a profit and/or implying some type of relationship with the site.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:55:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLD05:
Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?


If it is easily confused for ar15.com and you use that confusion it to make a profit. Yes
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 5:59:44 PM EST
They can't even do 3D correctly.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:02:01 PM EST
Do you people notify Nike if you see an infringement on the "swoosh"?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:05:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLD05:
Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?

Not trying to be a smart ass but I still don't get it. I understand the copyright idea, but how can you copyright someone else's invention and take that as your own? That's what I'm failing to understand.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:07:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SaurusX:
Do you people notify Nike if you see an infringement on the "swoosh"?
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Do they reward notifications?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:08:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLD05:


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?
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Originally Posted By TLD05:
Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By 57fairlane:
I've never understood the copyright thing . . .

How can someone copyright a logo that is literally someone else's invention from YEARS ago?

If I use a view of the bolt face straight off the colt/armalite blueprint of the bolt, can Ed sue me?

Seems ridiculous

I asked the same question. Never got a serious, informative answer.


Arfcom's logo is a stylized representation of the bolt face. If you copy that logo, then it is infringement.

However, just using a picture of a bolt face is good to go, as AR15.com does not own the rights to the AR15 bolt face.


If I take a pic of a bolt face and run it through photoshop that turns the picture into a drawing, is that infringement?


Reading comprehension sucks huh? As someone else had already said before you posted this, if you make money off the logo and is close enough that is copyright infringement.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:11:17 PM EST
Not trying to be a smart ass but I still don't get it. I understand the copyright idea, but how can you copyright someone else's invention and take that as your own? That's what I'm failing to understand.[/
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Look at it like this. The Florida Panthers NHL team does not own the rights to the animal, or depictions of said animal.

However, if you copy their depiction of the animal, IE their stylized logo, and use it to try to make a profit without having an agreement with them, it would be infringement.


infringement


not infringement.

That is my understanding of how it works though. For what it is worth, I am not a lawyer so I could be off base.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:13:25 PM EST
Nope, no team membership for you
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:50:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SaurusX:
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its because narcing on people is rewarded with a free team membership, you always see new accounts actively searching the internet looking for infringements so they can get a free team membership on their retread accounts.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 6:54:15 PM EST
OP, were you a hall monitor in high school?
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OP, were you a hall monitor in high school?
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This here
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This here
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Originally Posted By glocke12:
OP, were you a hall monitor in high school?


This here


Nope I was dickhead torturing the hall monitors I just saw it an threw it out for a chance at free year membership. Why y'all mad?
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 7:56:08 PM EST
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how a symbol representing a very common gun part can be intellectual property. Copy and pasting the image is one thing but this is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:11:01 PM EST
Found OP's coffee mug
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Originally Posted By Obrez:
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how a symbol representing a very common gun part can be intellectual property. Copy and pasting the image is one thing but this is ridiculous.
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It's been answered several times. Read the thread
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:16:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Obrez:
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how a symbol representing a very common gun part can be intellectual property. Copy and pasting the image is one thing but this is ridiculous.
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Maybe try a book on copyright and trademark.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 8:19:44 PM EST
And everyone crying about them copyrighting the bfl they made it popular. Nobody gave a shit a about bolt faces before they turned it into a logo. Now you see bfl for damn near every popular gun. And they shouldn't protect their hard work?
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