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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:00:52 PM EDT
[#1]
Wow, that's an original take on the jet pack concept.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:03:58 PM EDT
[#2]
not trying to dupe police...
I would fucking kill for that thing. I dont care how dangerous it is. a flying fucking motorcycle. If a production model got within 50% of those performance goals i would own it any cost. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:06:10 PM EDT
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I must have one
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:25:39 PM EDT
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If that works even half-assed, this will be a culture changing product.
I'm just having a hard time seeing it have the thrust-weight ratio required... And stability will be a challenge. Has to be fly-by-wire for anyone lacking the skill of a demigod to safely ride it. TR85. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:26:52 PM EDT
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Meh, I dont need to live past 25, ill take one.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:28:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet.  |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:32:23 PM EDT
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It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet.
I'd do it. Fuck it why the fuck not. I've always wanted to fly a helicopter, this wouldn't be exactly the same but I'd sure give it a shot. Where do I sign? |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:37:04 PM EDT
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Edited..
I still don't see that think making it to 10K feet or the airspeed he claims.. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:46:44 PM EDT
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Edited.. I still don't see that think making it to 10K feet or the airspeed he claims.. Agreed. But who gives a fuck? If he can get it to go 60mph at 1,000' (or hell, 500), with enough stability to not die, he won't be able to make enough. I can also see making a backpack mounted rocket deployed chute for the rider, rigged to a dummy cord on the bike. Rider falls off, or jumps off, and the cord gets yanked from the backpack, deploying the chute, fast. Wouldn't be zero/zero, but it'd be pretty good. For low altitude, low velocity crashes, maybe an airbag suit so the rider can bounce like our Mars probes do. 
TR85. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:48:28 PM EDT
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It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet.
Why? anything over 50 feet or so is near guaranteed death anyway... |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 8:54:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why? anything over 50 feet or so is near guaranteed death anyway... Yeah, but 50 feet is 9950 feet less to drop while SHITTING YOURSELF! I guess most people would want a parachute while using one of these - something like the ones they use for base jumping perhaps? |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:01:50 PM EDT
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Single engine with no means of autorotation? No thanks. Not even a ballistic parachute system would make that safe at 50 feet. 500 feet and you might have a chance.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:11:07 PM EDT
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Single engine with no means of autorotation? No thanks. Not even a ballistic parachute system would make that safe at 50 feet. 500 feet and you might have a chance. Meh... I doubt you're much more likely to die riding this thing under 500 than a sport bike at similar speed on the pavement. And at altitude, with a chute, you're very likely to survive any failure... Birdstrike to the face would suck though. It would be inherently dangerous. But many would accept the risk. I doubt I would, but I can see the temptation. At least, unlike motorcycles, this thing won't leave you crippled for life in a crash... You'll just die outright.
TR85. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:11:42 PM EDT
[#14]
James Bond could make an escape with one of those.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:13:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet. Why? anything over 50 feet or so is near guaranteed death anyway... It might actually be preferable to be at 10,000 feet.... if you wearing a parachute... It should be fairly easy to bail out of that thing if need be. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:14:50 PM EDT
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Hovercat laughs at the biped's futile attempts to near his awesomeness. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:21:25 PM EDT
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Every government in the world will ban these things before they even hit the market.
Fucking sweet though. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:22:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Single engine with no means of autorotation? No thanks. Not even a ballistic parachute system would make that safe at 50 feet. 500 feet and you might have a chance. Meh... I doubt you're much more likely to die riding this thing under 500 than a sport bike at similar speed on the pavement. And at altitude, with a chute, you're very likely to survive any failure... Birdstrike to the face would suck though. It would be inherently dangerous. But many would accept the risk. I doubt I would, but I can see the temptation. At least, unlike motorcycles, this thing won't leave you crippled for life in a crash... You'll just die outright. TR85. Sudden engine failure at 100 knots and 500 feet? That thing would lose altitude like a rock. You would have to punch the ballistic parachute within a second after engine failure. But on takeoff or landing? Failure would be fatal. Yes, birdstrike would be catastrophic. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:22:22 PM EDT
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I love it, but your daft to think the FAA will let this go without completely raping it's soul. As for its' performance, time will tell, I see it being a solid ground affect vehicle if it's stable. Outside of ground affect your ability to go through the pearlly gates in a ball of flame increase big time. Enough talk I want to see it fly, these are the type of guys that make me love industrial design
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:24:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Every government in the world will ban these things before they even hit the market. Fucking sweet though. Well, it wouldn't meet Part 103 exemption for ultralight vehicles. Even though the weight is in the range, the maximum level speed is far too fast. Too powerful too. And as designed, too much fuel on board. It would never get a CofA as an experimental either. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:25:35 PM EDT
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Come to daddy...and bring Pippa Black with you...sans clothing to save weight and fuel economy.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:27:29 PM EDT
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IBHD
In Before His Death
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:31:08 PM EDT
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Single engine with no means of autorotation? No thanks. Not even a ballistic parachute system would make that safe at 50 feet. 500 feet and you might have a chance. Meh... I doubt you're much more likely to die riding this thing under 500 than a sport bike at similar speed on the pavement. And at altitude, with a chute, you're very likely to survive any failure... Birdstrike to the face would suck though. It would be inherently dangerous. But many would accept the risk. I doubt I would, but I can see the temptation. At least, unlike motorcycles, this thing won't leave you crippled for life in a crash... You'll just die outright.
TR85. Sudden engine failure at 100 knots and 500 feet? That thing would lose altitude like a rock. You would have to punch the ballistic parachute within a second after engine failure. But on takeoff or landing? Failure would be fatal. Yes, birdstrike would be catastrophic. Solution? Ejector seat and windshield.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 11:48:47 PM EDT
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Single engine with no means of autorotation? No thanks. Not even a ballistic parachute system would make that safe at 50 feet. 500 feet and you might have a chance. Meh... I doubt you're much more likely to die riding this thing under 500 than a sport bike at similar speed on the pavement. And at altitude, with a chute, you're very likely to survive any failure... Birdstrike to the face would suck though. It would be inherently dangerous. But many would accept the risk. I doubt I would, but I can see the temptation. At least, unlike motorcycles, this thing won't leave you crippled for life in a crash... You'll just die outright.
TR85. Sudden engine failure at 100 knots and 500 feet? That thing would lose altitude like a rock. You would have to punch the ballistic parachute within a second after engine failure. But on takeoff or landing? Failure would be fatal. Yes, birdstrike would be catastrophic. Front tire failure on a bike going 100 on pavement is very likely to be fatal too... And if it doesn't kill you, 9/10 odds you'll wish it had. Risky... Yes. Risky enough that it isn't still cool as hell? Nope. The biggest problem, if they were available and not regulated out of circulation, would be idiots plowing into houses at 150. TR85. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 2:36:07 AM EDT
[#25]
Neat concept but highly unlikely to ever fly in that configuration.
Put the fans on the top and hang the rider underneath and you may have something. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 3:48:18 AM EDT
[#26]
obviously it needs a suitcase sized anti goose phalanx
The calvary charge will be epic
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Posted: 6/18/2011 4:22:44 AM EDT
[#27]
there is sure a lot that needs to be done to improve aerodynamics and rider safety. but the concept/design is interesting and has potential - provided governments will allow citizen ownership/use.
I wish the guy all the luck in the world. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 4:33:34 AM EDT
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It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet.
You missed the fine print. * Parachute required |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 4:50:27 AM EDT
[#29]
Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death.
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:02:57 AM EDT
[#30]
how does one gain clearance for a fuel up at the local exxon station?
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:07:32 AM EDT
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It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet.
10,000 feet or 50 feet = no difference in what happens when you fall off or the machine fails. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:08:08 AM EDT
[#32]
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It would take a braver man than I to take a thing like that to 10,000 feet.
After 100 feet, the extra altitude just means that you'll live for a few seconds longer. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:13:20 AM EDT
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If that works even half-assed, this will be a culture changing product. I'm just having a hard time seeing it have the thrust-weight ratio required... And stability will be a challenge. Has to be fly-by-wire for anyone lacking the skill of a demigod to safely ride it. TR85. Yep, in order to get that thing to actually fly and be stable...there is going to have to be a lot of electronic in it. Since the weight of the rider is going to be above the point where the props are attached, ....it's going to have a natural tendency to roll upside down......it's going to want to put the riders weight UNDER the CG of the bike. It can be done, but it better have some pretty sophisticated fly by wire stuff on it where the computer takes the riders "recommendations" and decides what actually NEEDS to be done 
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:15:34 AM EDT
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Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. 
An engine failure during takeoff or landing, in a fixed wing aircraft, although certainly an emergency, isn't exactly automatically fatal. Hell, there are probably people on this forum that have had it happen to them. That said; The FAA WILL regulate this thing out of existence if he ever tries to sell it here. Its what they do. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:18:07 AM EDT
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Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. Engine failure on landing in a single engine prop is a meaningless event. You're not using it anyway. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:19:37 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: Quoted: Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/6/9/17/anigif_not-sure-if-serious-gif-to-be-used-on-forums-22779-1307655858-12_preview.gif An engine failure during takeoff or landing, in a fixed wing aircraft, although certainly an emergency, isn't exactly automatically fatal. Hell, there are probably people on this forum that have had it happen to them. That said; The FAA WILL regulate this thing out of existence if he ever tries to sell it here. Its what they do. He just doesn't understand that it won't kill you in a small airplane, which has wings that will let you have some control on your glide path. This thing will let you have a straight line between you and your point of impact when the engine fails. The lack of non-moving air control surfaces means that without power this will make a brick, a cool looking brick, but brick nonetheless. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:24:10 AM EDT
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Quoted:
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Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/6/9/17/anigif_not-sure-if-serious-gif-to-be-used-on-forums-22779-1307655858-12_preview.gif An engine failure during takeoff or landing, in a fixed wing aircraft, although certainly an emergency, isn't exactly automatically fatal. Hell, there are probably people on this forum that have had it happen to them. That said; The FAA WILL regulate this thing out of existence if he ever tries to sell it here. Its what they do. He just doesn't understand that it won't kill you in a small airplane, which has wings that will let you have some control on your glide path. This thing will let you have a straight line between you and your point of impact when the engine fails. The lack of non-moving air control surfaces means that without power this will make a brick, a cool looking brick, but brick nonetheless. It has exactly enough control and forward momentum to carry you to the scene of the crash, if you will... |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:24:13 AM EDT
[#38]
Airplanes glide after engine failure.
This thing would describe a ballistic path similar to a mortar shell. A screaming, shit covered mortar shell.
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:30:45 AM EDT
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When they can make it an easy to use stabilized system, everyone will want one
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:37:11 AM EDT
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Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. Engine failure on landing in a single engine prop is a meaningless event. You're not using it anyway. Depends on where in the pattern your engine goes out. If you are just entering the downwind and 500 ft above the ground it could be bad. But otherwise you are correct. Engine failure on take-off it is a different story. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:42:32 AM EDT
[#41]
it would be fun trying to ride it through a forest  |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 5:48:31 AM EDT
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If you think flying is dangerous NOW,
let's just imagine schoolrun mums and drunk drivers pilots on that thing... there will be blood in the skies. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:00:23 AM EDT
[#43]
Looks good. A pair of wings that could quickly bolt on for extra stability and performance would be a nice touch. Maybe connect the ailerons to a piezoelectric gyro control.
The stable model versions of things like this have 4 fans. Who says it even needs to be an aircraft? Why not a ground effect hovercraft type thing. Hovercrafts are legal. Allthough they don't actually fly......... |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:26:53 AM EDT
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im sure flying vehicles will be deemed a right and will be supplied to lower income folks and the required training will be deemed racist and they will just be turned loose in the sky.airborne ghetto goblins I need video of his test flight its going to be interesting 
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:49:35 AM EDT
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Cool, but by the time the FAA and the rest of the nanny state folks in the US get finished, the Hoverbike will be a Hoverround
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:51:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. Engine failure on landing in a single engine prop is a meaningless event. You're not using it anyway. Depends on where in the pattern your engine goes out. If you are just entering the downwind and 500 ft above the ground it could be bad. But otherwise you are correct. Engine failure on take-off it is a different story. Not to comment on the engine failure bit - but the inventor chose well, the bmw boxer engine is one heck of a reliable thing. They could have done a lot worse. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 7:07:46 AM EDT
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I've always loved the smell of burning rubber but never liked the susceptibility that cars and traditional vehicles have to terrain surface. One oddly shaped pothole at 90+ mph on a poorly maintained road can result in sudden death. I think that whatever form of transportation that we use in the future, it needs to lose traditional wheels and go for the hover effect. I would love to see an LS7 (forged and 'charged) powered, hovercraft with an enclosed "cabin"...body made of lexan and carbon fiber. Something simple and light to offset the high displacement engine's weight- while still offering some protection against the elements. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 7:19:17 AM EDT
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When the Alabam redneck walked up and said, "I'd be skeer'd duh gidd own 'at," Mr. Malloy questioned his own sanity.
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Posted: 6/18/2011 10:33:33 AM EDT
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I just realized you could joust with this thing...
Fuck yeah. TR85. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 10:42:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Really no different than a light single engine airplane. Engine failure at take-off or landing is likely to result in death. Engine failure on landing in a single engine prop is a meaningless event. You're not using it anyway. In flight sims, I often found it easier to turn off the engine upon approach, and GLIDE to a landing. |
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