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Posted: 8/5/2005 5:10:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 12:44:00 PM EDT by pale_pony]
OK, polling the opinion of the forum;

Do you think Al Qaida really has plans to pop suitcase nukes on US soil tomorrow for the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima, or do you think they would have already used nukes if they had any?

Edited to add: Nagasaki was bombed on August 9th, 1945.

Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:11:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
OK, polling the opinion of the forum;

Do you think Al Qaida really has plans to pop suitcase nukes on US soil tomorrow for the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima, or do you think they would have already used nukes if they had any?


That is stretching it.....
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:11:47 AM EDT
50/50 Thinking like a crazy person who hates everyone is hard to do.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:12:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 5:13:11 AM EDT by HK_Shooter_03]

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
OK, polling the opinion of the forum;

Do you think Al Qaida really has plans to pop suitcase nukes on US soil tomorrow for the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima, or do you think they would have already used nukes if they had any?







ETA:
The survival forum is that way!



Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:14:35 AM EDT
What does Nostradamus say?

(and if he's not available, Rush Limbaugh will do)
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:33:47 AM EDT
yall just THINK that nothing happened on Y2K



Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:37:03 AM EDT
I seriously doubt they pop one tomorrow. I think if they're going to use one (or more) they will wait for the 9th and Nagasaki's anniversary because they will have more people around to kill in a busy work day.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:39:57 AM EDT
If they had one they wouldn't risk it getting compromised/discovered by storing it, waiting for some important date to use it. They know we're on point looking for anything that glows.

They'd use it the minute it was in place if they had one IMHO.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:45:55 AM EDT
Is there any intelligence suggesting an attack or is this just something you thought up?

(I'm not in the "if they had them they'd have used them" party, but unless there has been chatter to that effect, I'm not going to get my hackles raised any more than they are now (99% raised hacklage )
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:54:29 AM EDT
Only problem is it is a Saturday. They will hit when the cities are full of people, not a Saturday in August.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:56:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
Is there any intelligence suggesting an attack or is this just something you thought up?
)



Heard it from a number of sources, none of them are reliable, so I thought I'd ask the forum.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:59:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:00:01 AM EDT

First of all....

I think we've been through the "suitcase" nuke thing several times. They don't have them , any stolen from the ruskies will of long "expired" by now and they don't have the resouces to make one themselves.


Second of all ....

Al Queda has never been big on dates , they strike when the time is right for them. 9/11 has (had) no significance, nor do any of the other days Al Queda attacked.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:02:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
Only problem is it is a Saturday. They will hit when the cities are full of people, not a Saturday in August.



+1
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:05:43 AM EDT
Nuke terrorists'
favorite dates
Numbers, calendars important
to bin Laden include Aug. 6

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Posted: August 2, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


WASHINGTON – Intelligence gathered from captured al-Qaida documents and interrogations of captured operatives has provided the U.S. with some specific information about Osama bin Laden's favored dates for his decade-long plan for an "American Hiroshima" nuclear terrorist attack – and one of those dates arrives this week.




One of the most frequently cited dates is Aug. 6, the anniversary of the U.S. nuclear bombing of Hiroshima. Saturday marks the 60th anniversary of that attack, so this Aug. 6 would have special significance, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter that has broken several major stories tracking al-Qaida's nuclear terrorism plans.


An amateur sleuth, Michael Matuszak, points out, for instance, that Saturday would also mark the 1,426 days since Sept. 11, 2001. He points out that, in the Islamic calendar, this is the year 1426 – and that Aug. 6 would be the first day of the seventh month, the exact midway point of the year 1426.

"It is as if Bin Laden started by scheduling 'American Hiroshima' for 8-6-2005 and then worked backwards to arrive at 9-11-2001 as the precursor," he speculates.

Matuszak arrives at the calculation, however, by including Sept. 11, 2001, in his addition.

The Aug. 6 date and its association with Hiroshima was actually cited by captured al-Qaida operatives, according to U.S. military sources.

So, how high is the risk this week?

This year, falling on a Saturday as it does, some G2B intelligence sources say it is highly unlikely a major nuclear attack will occur.

"In addition to mentioning this date as a preferred target, Al-Qaida operatives have made it clear they also prefer an attack during the daylight during the week to wreak maximum havoc and to be sure the entire world views the images of burning U.S. cities," said one knowledgeable military intelligence source.

Others point out that Aug. 6 arrives in Japan while it is still Aug. 5 in the U.S. Does that raise the threat level this Friday?

So far, no one in the Department of Homeland Security has mentioned raising the threat this week. And though the Aug. 6 date was mentioned by al-Qaida operatives in association with its "American Hiroshima" nuclear attack, no year was ever discussed.

There are several other favored dates mentioned by bin Laden operatives in association with this planned mega-attack on the U.S.

Paul Williams, author of the upcoming book "The Al Qaeda Connection," acknowledges that, according to U.S. military analysts, bin Laden places a great deal of significance on dates. He believes Sept. 11 was chosen because it represented the fifth anniversary of the conviction of Ramzi Yousef for the World Trade Center bombing.

The bombings of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, occurred Aug. 7, 1998, the eighth anniversary of the 1990 U.S. commitment to deploy troops to Saudi Arabia.

Williams says his sources also point to two dates in October as significant. Oct. 2 is the anniversary of the federal court conviction of blind Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, "the spiritual mentor of bin Laden and his top lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Another date of significance is Oct. 7, the day of the launching of Operation Enduring Freedom.

Other dates mentioned by other bin Laden watchers include Sept. 11 and May 14, the anniversary of the re-creation of the state of Israel in 1948.

But bin Laden also craves the element of surprise. Therefore, the more attention specific dates are given, the more it reduces the likelihood that they will be chosen for the ultimate terrorist attack, say G2 Bulletin sources.

Bin Laden has spent billions of dollars on the successful purchase and development of nuclear weapons – money his al-Qaida terrorist network earned by directing poppy cultivation in the fields of Afghanistan, right under the noses of U.S. occupation forces.

That is the finding of G2 Bulletin sources as well as the investigative work of journalist Williams, and international terrorism expert Yossef Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America."

The vast drug fortune has also aided al-Qaida in smuggling some of those nuclear weapons – along with thousands of sleeper agents – over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 criminal street gang, say the sources.

According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, bin Laden's terrorist network has a plan called "American Hiroshima" involving the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S.



Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

Besides trying to detonate its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces officers to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

At least nine major U.S. cities, including New York and Washington, have been mentioned as prime targets for the al-Qaida nuclear
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:13:31 AM EDT
If there was a chance that Al Quada was going to set off a nuclear attack somewhere in the US tommorrow, I think it is the duty of the United States government to put out an alert so people can prepare.

I dont care if it is just threats, if you can save lives I think it would be worth it.

If anything a country wide alert for a nuclear attack would unite the American people against terrorism. And we might be able to get rid of it entirely if no attack materializes because we would be that much more motivated.

Even though we didnt shoot down airplanes when they kamikazed our cities, maybe we can learn from those mistakes and give people forewarning of a coming terrorist attack to save lives this time around.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:19:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:23:09 AM EDT
Maybe they'd like to strike when people are concentrated at their jobs... but if they had a "suitcase" nuke... you don't have to be as precise... Strike in a congested downtown area with a lot of high rise apartments and the job is done. Saturday or Monday.

That's if there are no symbolic targets for them to hit. They do so love their symbolism.

Just thinking out loud...
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:24:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:25:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By brasspile:
The problem with terrorism is that it works. how
They have accomplished EXACTLY what they set out to do! They don't even need to DO anything, other than make a viable threat, and all our lives are disrupted once the level hits "Orange". hinking.gif



Or people dont care and die when it happens because they did nothing.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:31:05 AM EDT
Maybe we can celebrate by staging a demonstration of what happened at Hiroshima, this time in Damascus. If that doesn't convince them, we can demonstrate again in Tehran.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:32:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:56:34 AM EDT
A dirty bomb would make no difference.
The main damage would be radiological pollution.
That would linger far past the weekend.


btw, I don't think they have any nuclear capabilities, other than a possible dirty bomb.
and if they did have that, they would use it, rather than risk capture while waiting.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 6:58:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 7:11:28 AM EDT
Affixes AFDB:

And the Zawahiri tape was 1426 seconds long and in some parts the AK had no mag and later a mag is visible --that must be the "go"code.
Plus there was a huge rush by NASA to get the space shuttle off the ground... they must be the american way of life survival team......
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 7:14:13 AM EDT
well I guess we'll find out tomorrow!
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 9:28:33 AM EDT
Ask a Boy Scout for advice.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 9:44:30 AM EDT
If there was any clue that an attack may be coming, IMHO, it would be the recent release of the Zarqawi and Al-Zawahiri videos. Often, there are videos released just before an attack occurs.

However, that doesn't mean it would be nukes. Nor does it point out a specific location. Nor does it say exactly when. And that shit World Net Daily puts out isn't even suitable for ass wiping material.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 10:15:05 AM EDT
If it does happen I will be throwing a "after glow" keg party at my place. You all are invited.

Oh and bring lots of guns and ammo. It will most likely be a SHTF situation if we run out of beer.
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 12:50:57 PM EDT
It's almost 5PM on the East Coast and no Hiroshima-style attack yet.
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 12:53:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
Only problem is it is a Saturday. They will hit when the cities are full of people, not a Saturday in August.



+1
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 2:22:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 12:42:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
can i come out of my bunker yet?



Nagasaki was bombed on August 9th
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 12:49:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pale_pony:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
can i come out of my bunker yet?



Nagasaki was bombed on August 9th


Something was edited. The original question was Aug 6th.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 12:55:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By pale_pony:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
can i come out of my bunker yet?



Nagasaki was bombed on August 9th


Something was edited. The original question was Aug 6th.



I'm sure something happened on the 10th. And I'm certain something else happened
on the 11th. Eventually they will get it right and scream "I told you so!!!"

I predict that sometime within the next 100 years some bad things will happen.

SEE!!! I AM PSYCHIC!!!!!
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