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Posted: 4/15/2006 7:37:35 AM EST
Today is powder day! We had several inches of new snow last night. It is spring snow so it is wet and pretty heavy. The base is icy so be careful. The tunder and lightning during the storm was pretty impressive.

I'm gonna go shooting.

SRM
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 7:39:41 AM EST
I wish it would snow here in South Texas
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 7:46:46 AM EST
Yeah thanks for reminding me! I had a full 7 day a week ski pass this winter. I skiied once. On a good note, this was my second year in biz for myself, and I saw HUGE increase from the prior year. I'll just have to hike and ski in another week or two.

--VT
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 7:49:45 AM EST
Snowmobilers > Skiiers. <-------------- FACT
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:00:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 9:01:42 AM EST by TheAvatar9265ft]

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Snowmobilers > Skiiers. <-------------- FACT



Skiers > Snowmobilers

I will provide evidence that snowmobiling, while fun, cannot compete with the gnar or extremeness of skiing... and I will do it
USING ONLY PICTURES TAKEN BY ME (or of me) WITHIN AN HOUR OF WHERE I LIVE:

Snowmobilers can't ride this... only up to the bottom:


Me:


You cannot snowmobile in the summer but you can ski (August Colorado):


We go bigger than snowmobilers and we don't have shock absorbers or cusioned seats:

This is only 50ft... the Skiing world record huck is 245ft

You couldn't get snowmobile on that cliff... or this one:


We go steeper and longer on the steep.


In chutes and trees where no sled would fit:



Gnar...



The girls do to!


We get on the streets too:


And on the ice:


We do the flippy things:

Me again...

Except with more variety...

Lincoln loop


Definately more style...


We love the pow....


A lot...

Just in case there was any question left:


I'll leave you to ponder that insanity... while I go make some fresh turns...
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:03:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Snowmobilers > Skiiers. <-------------- FACT



Skiers > Snowmobilers

I will provide evidence that snowmobiling, while fun, cannot compete with the gnar or extremeness of skiing... and I will do it
USING ONLY PICTURES TAKEN BY ME (or of me) WITHIN AN HOUR OF WHERE I LIVE:

Snowmobilers can't ride this... only up to the bottom:
www.soulskier.com/summit/MayGul.JPG

Me:
www.soulskier.com/summit/mush.jpg

You cannot snowmobile in the summer but you can ski (August Colorado):
www.soulskier.com/summit/040902skyscraper/AChrisSkiLakes.jpg

We go bigger than snowmobilers and we don't have shock absorbers or cusioned seats:
www.soulskier.com/summit/0603178abc/rcliff.jpg
This is only 50ft... the Skiing world record huck is 245ft

You couldn't get snowmobile on that cliff... or this one:
www.soulskier.com/summit/missionary/brett%20burned%20cliff.jpg

We go steeper and longer on the steep.
www.soulskier.com/summit/06032xcompendium/fingfour.jpg

In chutes and trees where no sled would fit:
www.soulskier.com/summit/060111a/harshsteep1.jpg

www.soulskier.com/summit/060104vail/blurred.jpg
Gnar...



The girls do to!
www.soulskier.com/summit/060326sbc/chute2.jpg

We get on the streets too:
www.soulskier.com/summit/highlights/embank6g.jpg

And on the ice:
www.soulskier.com/summit/highlights/eric%20waterfall.jpg

We do the flippy things:
www.soulskier.com/summit/060326sbc/flip3.jpg
Me again...

Except with more variety...
www.soulskier.com/summit/060106v/lincoln.jpg
Lincoln loop

www.soulskier.com/summit/highlights/218brett%20gap%20spin2b.jpg
Definately more style...

www.soulskier.com/summit/highlights/DeepHuck08gfixed.jpg
We love the pow....

www.soulskier.com/summit/060106v/evilslope.jpg
A lot...

Just in case there was any question left:
www.soulskier.com/summit/060327ab/seq%20-f%20alt%20bw.jpg

I'll leave you to ponder that insanity... while I go make some fresh turns...




I can use my snowmobile in the summer.



Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:12:47 AM EST
your kung fu is weak
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:14:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 9:15:30 AM EST by adair_usmc]

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:
your kung fu is weak



ETA - double post.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:15:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:
your kung fu is weak



Skiing is gay. Snomobilers should always have right of way on the mountain, it exists for us, not the skiiers. You can have the mountains when we are done with them.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:16:31 AM EST
wow. those are some bad ass pics. looks like fun.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:17:13 AM EST
there really is nothing gayer than snowmobiles.

maybe jet skis, but at least the chicks wear bikinis
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:18:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
there really is nothing gayer than snowmobiles.

maybe jet skis, but at least the chicks wear bikinis



Actually, there is. Skiing and snowboarding.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:21:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 9:23:45 AM EST by TheAvatar9265ft]

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:
your kung fu is weak



Skiing is gay. Snomobilers should always have right of way on the mountain, it exists for us, not the skiiers. You can have the mountains when we are done with them.



ETA Skiing has been around for over a thousand years. Snowmobiling for less than a hundred... who do the mountains exist for?

Snowmobiles are fun and usefull for getting me out to good terrain (which is why my friends and I have snomobiles). I have never had problem with sharing the hill with them either.

But that doesn't change the fact that skiing is infinately more extreme, challenging, and hardcore than snowmobiling. It requires a great deal more physical strength and athletic skill.

You can go to snowmobiling magazines and not come up with gnarlier pictures than what I have posted from my own work, much less what I could post from skiing magazines like Powder, Couloir, and Freeskier.

Face it... you only go as big as snowboarders...
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:22:27 AM EST
for starters, "snowmobiles" are a means of transportation.

"snowmobiling" is a hobby for lard asses.

Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:23:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
for starters, "snowmobiles" are a means of transportation.

"snowmobiling" is a hobby for lard asses.




Cant afford one huh? Or is the speed too much for you.

and I am FAR from being a lard ass.


My snowmobiles are more important than most peoples lives.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:32:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 9:33:28 AM EST by TheAvatar9265ft]

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
for starters, "snowmobiles" are a means of transportation.

"snowmobiling" is a hobby for lard asses.




Cant afford one huh? Or is the speed too much for you.

and I am FAR from being a lard ass.


My snowmobiles are more important than most peoples lives.



You may not be a fatass but realistically snowboarders are far more physically fit than your average sledder. A $5K machine makes up for the pot belly. ;)

As far as cost, my ski gear could be traded for a decent sled but why would I? Plus, I love the snowmobilers who spend $10,000 on a new tricked out 700 longtrack but won't buy a $300 avalanche location transceiver... then they go out, highmark, slide, and I dig up their corpse.

The only thing better than that are the snowmobliers who put their transceiver on their pack strapped to their machine... then SAR locates their machine instead of them...

Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:33:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
for starters, "snowmobiles" are a means of transportation.

"snowmobiling" is a hobby for lard asses.




Cant afford one huh? Or is the speed too much for you.

and I am FAR from being a lard ass.


My snowmobiles are more important than most peoples lives.



You may not be a fatass but realistically snowboarders are far more physically fit than your average sledder. A $5K machine makes up for the pot belly. ;)

As far as cost, my ski gear could be traded for a decent sled but why would I? Plus, I love the snowmobilers who spend $10,000 on a new longtrack but won't buy a $300 avalanche location transceiver... then they go out, highmark, slide, and I dig up their corpse.

The only thing better than that are the snowmobliers who put their transceiver on their pack strapped to their machine... then SAR locates their machine instead of them...




Both of my snowmobiles were more than $13,000


Gonna trade one in for the new M1000 when I see one locally, probably later in the year.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:36:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 9:37:24 AM EST by IchWarrior]
Yea, Im just a fat ass slob on my sled...


You fucking dunce, go massage your ski pole.



Link Posted: 4/15/2006 9:50:21 AM EST
So your combined snowmobiles are worth more than the average ARFCOMer's car... and you still can't do stuff that is as nearly as extreme as what I skiers can with $1000 of ski gear. Too cool for school ;)

Pictures speak louder than words...





I don't see anything coming from you...

Next will you pontificate on why jetskiing is more core than whitewater kayaking? ;)



Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:06:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
for starters, "snowmobiles" are a means of transportation.

"snowmobiling" is a hobby for lard asses.




Cant afford one huh? Or is the speed too much for you.

and I am FAR from being a lard ass.


My snowmobiles are more important than most peoples lives.



I have chunks of snowmobilers in my turds.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:09:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:
So your combined snowmobiles are worth more than the average ARFCOMer's car... and you still can't do stuff that is as nearly as extreme as what I skiers can with $1000 of ski gear. Too cool for school ;)

Pictures speak louder than words...

www.vivalasweddings.com/images/whistler-snowmobiling-1.jpg

www.soulskier.com/summit/060324ev/blurr.jpg

I don't see anything coming from you...

Next will you pontificate on why jetskiing is more core than whitewater kayaking? ;)

www.horton-szar.net/pictures/holidays/Assets/images/pic_bali_jetski.jpg

www.worldofwallpapers.nuche.org/content/athletics/water/800/kayaking-whitewater-background.jpg





Extreme!!!!11!!!1
<­BR>I could care less about "Extreme". You probably drink Mountain Dew don't you
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:13:43 AM EST
here comes a lock
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:15:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
for starters, "snowmobiles" are a means of transportation.

"snowmobiling" is a hobby for lard asses.




Cant afford one huh? Or is the speed too much for you.

and I am FAR from being a lard ass.


My snowmobiles are more important than most peoples lives.



I have chunks of snowmobilers in my turds.



I have the skulls of skiiers in my track.

The right of way on the mountain is directly proportional to horsepower.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:22:20 AM EST
Seriously though....snowmobiles are great.

If I hurt myself on the mountain, I only have to hike down two thousand feet or so before the ski patrol can use the snowmobiles to get me to a helicopter.

Mountain taxis....yeah that's it.

(but only for the flat part of the mountain, of course)

Thanks snowmobilers! This Busch Light is for you! (that's what you guys drink, right?)
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:24:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
Seriously though....snowmobiles are great.

If I hurt myself on the mountain, I only have to hike down two thousand feet or so before the ski patrol can use the snowmobiles to get me to a helicopter.

Mountain taxis....yeah that's it.

(but only for the flat part of the mountain, of course)

Thanks snowmobilers! This Busch Light is for you! (that's what you guys drink, right?)




Seriously though, skiing is great.

I just wanna see you guys ski back up those "extreme" mountains.

Of course, if you are in the eastern part of the country, you can in no way, shape, or form refer to the as mountains. They are dirt mounds.

Snowmobilers drink bourbon, like real men do. Skiiers can continue to drink their Keystone Light and shop for their purses.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:26:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 10:31:12 AM EST by TheAvatar9265ft]

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
My snowmobiles are more important than most peoples lives.
I could care less about "Extreme". You probably drink Mountain Dew don't you
The right of way on the mountain is directly proportional to horsepower.



Coffee, very black.

So I'm still waiting for some proof of what makes snowmobiling better....


This guy has more HP than your sled, better yield.

Snowmobiling as a sport is what happens when you take a work tool and try to turn it into a toy. It's like a tractor pull except with snow.


Snowmobiling Jr.

Those that can, ski. Those that can't/are too fat but have oodles of money, compensate by snowmobiling.



Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:29:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 10:30:32 AM EST by adair_usmc]

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Extreme!!!!11!!!1

I could care less about "Extreme". You probably drink Mountain Dew don't you



Coffee, very black.

So I'm still waiting for some proof of what makes snowmobiling better....

www.skicooper.com/snowcat.jpg
This guy has more HP than your sled, better yield.

Snowmobiling as a sport is what happens when you take a work tool and try to turn it into a toy. It's like a tractor pull except with snow.

www.leaderlandnews.com/photo/img/f3530/tractor%20pull.jpg]/url]

Those that can, ski. Those that can't/are too fat but have oodles of money, compensate by snowmobiling.






Keep telling yourself that. Must be jelousy.

And yes, I do make way for those guys. I get to drive one in the winter, my company owns one to get access to our wireless internet backhauls in the winter.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:38:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/15/2006 10:40:26 AM EST by TheAvatar9265ft]
Getting from point A to point B to powercycle wireless routers... that is an excellent use for snowmobiles...

I use them to get me from pt A to pt B (which is closer to pt C, good terrain)
With SAR we use them to shuttle rescuers/equipment from pt A to pt B and of course to search for lost snowmobilers...

No skier is going to fight you for a flat meadow except maybe a cross country skier.

And still no pictures of why anyone should be jelous of snowmachiners...

Except this one:

Adair in his youth... dreaming of a tractor with skids
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:42:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft:
Getting from point A to point B to powercycle wireless routers... that is an excellent use for snowmobiles...

I use them to get me from pt A to pt B (which is closer to pt C, good terrain)
With SAR we use them to shuttle rescuers/equipment from pt A to pt B and of course to search for lost snowmobilers...

No skier is going to fight you for a flat meadow except maybe a cross country skier.

And still no pictures of why anyone should be jelous of snowmachiners...

Except this one:
www.leaderlandnews.com/photo/img/f3530/tractor%20pull.jpg
Adair in his youth... dreaming of a tractor with skids




Shows how much you know about technology. We have a snowcat, not a snowmobile for that. I do construction in the winter, put up large antennas, battery back-ups, wrap boards, etc. etc. etc. Its not just for powercycling routers.

You are just jealous, thats why you attack like you do.

I will let you drive my redline or my new M1000 this upcoming winter. I will even spring for gas.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:44:59 AM EST
why do I have a feeling these are BOTH AdAir?
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:45:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Outsider_10fp:
why do I have a feeling these are BOTH AdAir?



Oh, they are not both me, not at all.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:46:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
Seriously though....snowmobiles are great.

If I hurt myself on the mountain, I only have to hike down two thousand feet or so before the ski patrol can use the snowmobiles to get me to a helicopter.

Mountain taxis....yeah that's it.

(but only for the flat part of the mountain, of course)

Thanks snowmobilers! This Busch Light is for you! (that's what you guys drink, right?)




Of course, if you are in the eastern part of the country, you can in no way, shape, or form refer to the as mountains. They are dirt mounds.





see, that's another thing....I can pack my gear up and head where ever....even Argentina while it's summer here.

snowmobiles....not so much.

but you can sled across ponds and boil brats.


Link Posted: 4/15/2006 10:49:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
Seriously though....snowmobiles are great.

If I hurt myself on the mountain, I only have to hike down two thousand feet or so before the ski patrol can use the snowmobiles to get me to a helicopter.

Mountain taxis....yeah that's it.

(but only for the flat part of the mountain, of course)

Thanks snowmobilers! This Busch Light is for you! (that's what you guys drink, right?)




Of course, if you are in the eastern part of the country, you can in no way, shape, or form refer to the as mountains. They are dirt mounds.





see, that's another thing....I can pack my gear up and head where ever....even Argentina while it's summer here.

snowmobiles....not so much.

but you can sled across ponds and boil brats.





I am too busy in the summer fishing on my boat, then to sled across ponds more than once.

We do have a sled race acrosss Philips lake, once a year, but other than that, is all about fishing for me in the summer time. Not going to Argentina.
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 11:02:48 AM EST
jeezus, get both and STFU!!

--VT
Link Posted: 4/15/2006 11:15:36 AM EST
TheAv -
Those are some incredible pictures. I ski but am not anywhere near that level of skill. Maybe if i get stationed at Ft. Carson, CO, i will be able to go out skiing in some real stuff more than once a year for 4 days...

Oh, and skiing >> snowmobiling
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