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Posted: 9/3/2005 5:52:19 AM EDT

new orleans is below sea level and tends to flood. The residents of new orleans bear the physical and financial responsibility of protecting new orleans from flooding. The residents of new orleans did NOT make the physical and financial effort to protect themselves from this level of storm.

new orleans residents had a choice, to protect themselves or not. They chose NOT.

The rest of us have the physical and financial responsibility of protecting ourselves, families and property from flooding, etc. We can’t afford to protect ourselves and new orleans too. Our financial burden is already too big, we can’t afford to carry new orleans on our backs. We don’t expect them to carry us either.

The Army Corps of Engineers and the federal government have the responsibility to keep the Mississippi River open to navigation. The Mississippi can’t be kept open during and immediately after an event like a hurricane, that is impossible to do. But it can be reopened in a timely manner. It will be.

Please note, the administrations of roosevelt, truman, Kennedy, johnson, carter and clinton did not construct a levy system that would protect new orleans from a big hurricane. They were not supposed to, it was not their job and they did not. The same can be said for other administrations. It was not their job.

I am astounded to see and hear new orleans residents and talking-head news-readers on msnbc, cnn, abc, cbs, nbc, npr, public radio and yes, even fox who are unable to comprehend the simple principle: that each of us has the responsibility and moral obligation to care for and protect ourselves. It ain’t rocket science.

Another thing:

“Why did it take so long?” I see and hear new orleans residents and news-readers babbling this mantra, ad nauseam.

Do they not know that there was a big hurricane?

Can they not understand that the part of new orleans they dwell on is surrounded on three sides by water?

Can’t they comprehend that it is difficult to move around in a flooded area?

What part of “there are other people, in other places....who need help” don’t they understand?

Again, the ability to understand simple things (let alone complex things) is totally lacking.


We don’t have unlimited resources. The limited resources we-do-have need to be used where they will do the most good. That is the only way to achieve an optimal solution.

Use your limited resources wisely, where they will do the most good. Don’t squander your precious resources foolishly by using them where they will have no beneficial result.

This principal is routinely violated in “education” where valuable money and teaching staff is totally wasted on those who can’t or will-not (refuse to) learn.....instead of being used wisely on those who can learn the most. The consequences of this foolishness are Catastrophic. Witness: some new orleans residents and the uncomprehending “minds” of most print and televised media.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 5:58:16 AM EDT
I'm going back and forth between the news channels and I'm disgusted.

The concept of personal responsibility is under massive attack.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 6:19:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 6:22:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2005 6:30:03 AM EDT by dullh]
The Governor of Louisiana impresses me every time she opens her mouth...I didn't know a human could have that few functioning brain cells and still live!

One thing I will say is that New Orleans is a textbook case study of why law-abiding citizens should have unrestricted access to firearms.

The cops abandon their town, and for 4+ days there is no LEO presence...but the piece of shit hoodlums all had their guns right?

Respect and admire the armed citizen. Unlike the cops he/she won't leave you hanging.

Oh and the personal responsibility thing...L.B.J and his "Great Society" put that concept on life support and Bill Clinton pulled the plug. There ain't no such thing as personal responsibility and accountability anymore..it's always someone else's responsibility to save you from your own hard luck and/or stupidity.

Link Posted: 9/3/2005 6:25:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2005 6:26:07 AM EDT by diabolical_chicken]
i have had a busy work week and really only had time to sit down and look and listen to the news yesterday

when i found myself shouting at the television, i had to turn it off

you are 1000% correct
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 8:09:28 AM EDT
Screaming at the tv....a sign of the times.

And, an entirely rational behavior.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 8:17:32 AM EDT
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

How many fucking times do they need to repeat that the Astrodome is full?
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 8:20:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:
I'm going back and forth between the news channels and I'm disgusted.

The concept of personal responsibility is under massive attack.

These people are conditioned to expecting cradle-grave handholding from the Govt. They literally cannot function without the G-Man providing for them. They cannot think on their own. Their whole life revolves around being dependent on the G-Man.

The sad irony is they got exactly what they elected into office. No doubt in my mind this scenario would not repeat itself if it happened in dozens of other cities across the nation.
Link Posted: 9/3/2005 8:33:03 AM EDT

I don't think a 4 day response is that bad on the federal level given the scope of the disaster.

It ain't that hard to marry up helicoptors, bottled water, and MREs and get them to the Convention Center in 24 hours, if the willpower exists at the correct level of authority. It takes the will to act and to cut thru the red tape.

Not bush-bashing; just a general comment on leadership.
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