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Posted: 6/21/2013 8:17:33 PM EDT
I can now never say that I haven't been bitten by a dog. I was out training for the APFT at night in a rural area an hour ago. There's a stretch of road right next to the house between two cul-de-sacs that is precisely 1/5th of a mile, so I run back and forth five times and time myself (for those bad at math, that's 2 miles). I was 100 feet from finishing (a passing 16:25, need 17:00 to pass), and a couple with some dogs got out of a car in front of me. One of their dogs, a smallish 10 pound or so dog, saw me running towards them, and figured I was a threat, so he or she jumped out and grabbed my leg. The owners were apologetic, but I just figured that the dog was acting like a dog, thinking it was protecting itself and/or its owners, and I said it was fine and went back inside.
The bite was worse than I thought - not only was there a strand of semi-living skin an inch long hanging out of one hole, but the bites were down to the muscle, and the skin between the two main fang bites was partially separated from my leg so that if I pushed down on the unharmed skin between the two holes it made a squishing sound and made blood squeeze out from both holes. It was a like a sucking leg wound. I disinfected a dropper and squirted peroxide into both holes (I could shove the dropper pretty far under my skin), put some clove and tea tree oil in it as a disinfectant, and put a bandage on it. TIme will tell if it's infected. The owners told me that the dog had its shots and in fact had just gotten shots a few days ago, so I think I'm OK there. SO, who has some cool bite stories? http://www.musicnotationservices.com/433_8233.MOV |
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I can now never say that I haven't been bitten by a dog. I was out training for the APFT at night in a rural area an hour ago. There's a stretch of road right next to the house between two cul-de-sacs that is precisely 1/5th of a mile, so I run back and forth five times and time myself. I was 100 feet from finishing (a passing 16:25, need 17:00 to pass), and a couple with some dogs got out of a car in front of me. One of their dogs, a smallish 10 pound or so dog, saw me running towards them, and figured I was a threat, so he or she jumped out and grabbed my leg. The owners were apologetic, but I just figured that the dog was acting like a dog, thinking it was protecting itself and/or its owners, and I said it was fine and went back inside. The bite was worse than I thought - not only was there a strand of semi-living skin an inch long hanging out of one hole, but the bites were down to the muscle, and the skin between the two main fang bites was partially separated from my leg so that if I pushed down on the unharmed skin between the two holes it made a squishing sound and made blood squeeze out from both holes. It was a like a sucking leg wound. I disinfected a dropper and squirted peroxide into both holes (I could shove the dropper pretty far under my skin), put some clove and tea tree oil in it as a disinfectant, and put a bandage on it. TIme will tell if it's infected. The owners told me that the dog had its shots and in fact had just gotten shots a few days ago, so I think I'm OK there. You do what you want, but I would call animal control. they will quarantine the dog for 10 days to make sure it doesn't have rabies. If it doesn't they get their pooch back and you don't die a slow painfull death. At least ask to see the rabies vacination card from the vet. And you should have gone to the ER and had the wound cleaned properly. 26yrs carrying mail, I know of what I speak. |
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yes pics! unwrap it and take some. You might want to start a course of antibiotics as well.
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That's a dirty wound you need antibiotics now. ^ i can't believe this has to be said. IBTRS [In Before The Rabies Shots] dibs on optics & ammo! |
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Fuck the naysayers, but some butter on it.
If you don't get the reference you are to young to understand. |
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If a dog bites you or is "attacking", what reaction is appropriate?
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And this is why I've been looking for a nice CCW setup for running... |
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Lol did you push the semi living skin back in? Where are these pics? There are rules.
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Quoted: If a dog bites you or is "attacking", what reaction is appropriate? Tiger uppercut/thread |
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Get that bite looked at by a doctor pronto. I deal with a lot of dog bites, and they get infected a good chunk of the time, don't risk it.
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If a dog bites you or is "attacking", what reaction is appropriate? "attacking" = gets lead treatment |
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If a dog bites you or is "attacking", what reaction is appropriate? "attacking" = gets lead treatment Well, the situation could escalate. A dog is going to bite or does bite you. Lets say you kick it. Now the owner flips out like, "whyd you kick my dog!?!". |
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And this is why I've been looking for a nice CCW setup for running... I usually run w/my G26 because I live in an area that has a bunch of half to one acre plots with almost everyone having a Beware of Dog sign. Quite a few fenced dogs behind a 4ft chainlink which I don't trust much when it comes to the bigger dogs. Would never shoot a dog unless it was a big one that was intent on doing serious damage and a kick to the face didn't work. Little dogs sure are pissy sometimes. |
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"the dog just got its shots."
Yeah,, unless i have a confirmed rabies vaccination I wouldn't trust my life on that statement. Also, you can't post about semi living flesh dangling from your leg and not post pics. |
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Were you on the same side of street as the couple with dog exiting car? If so, why didn't you cross street when approaching?
Not implying you are at fault here, just curious. I wouldn't want anyone running up right at me either, even if they look like a jogger. Or slow to a walk till you pass. I understand you were training, but in the future I suggest you slow to a walk and greet people/animals before continuing to run after passing. Without knowing more details, like you said dog probably felt you were a threat running at owners. That being said, you don't unleash your dog out in public unless highly trained. Only known a few that would sit when told no matter what else was going on like cats walking by 3ft away. |
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OK, OK, I got pics, and a video showing the sucking leg wound action. I might not get them up tonight, though, you'll just have to tune in tomorrow.
As for the dog, it acted like I would expect a threatened dog to act. As I ran towards it it began barking and growling, and then as I passed a few feet from it it jumped and bit for about two seconds and then let go. The owners restrained the dog, and the dog calmed down. It's a nice neighborhood, and the house is next door (across the street), I'm sure the dog is not diseased. I've seen the dog being walked quite often. I just cleaned it again (and I got the pics and video during that time) and put some more disinfectant on it and another bandage. |
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Were you on the same side of street as the couple with dog exiting car? If so, why didn't you cross street when approaching? Not implying you are at fault here, just curious. I wouldn't want anyone running up right at me either, even if they look like a jogger. Or slow to a walk till you pass. I understand you were training, but in the future I suggest you slow to a walk and greet people/animals before continuing to run after passing. Without knowing more details, like you said dog probably felt you were a threat running at owners. That being said, you don't unleash your dog out in public unless highly trained. Only known a few that would sit when told no matter what else was going on like cats walking by 3ft away. I definitely should have stopped when the dog began growling, but instead I ran on past a few feet from the dog. I acknowledged the owners before I got there, but the dog didn't know I was friendly. I would say the dog was definitely trying to protect itself/its owners, nothing more. It was so quick the owners didn't have time to restrain the dog, and besides I was really too close for them to properly restrain the dog. |
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Get real anti biotics and have a doc stitch it up. Rabid pets, are unlikely, I would not worry about that. Peroxide is not any better than water at disinfecting a wound alcohal works better if you insist on self treatment.
Ankle biters have knarly teeth, they cause infections like cat bites so look out for that. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Were you on the same side of street as the couple with dog exiting car? If so, why didn't you cross street when approaching? Not implying you are at fault here, just curious. I wouldn't want anyone running up right at me either, even if they look like a jogger. Or slow to a walk till you pass. I understand you were training, but in the future I suggest you slow to a walk and greet people/animals before continuing to run after passing. Without knowing more details, like you said dog probably felt you were a threat running at owners. That being said, you don't unleash your dog out in public unless highly trained. Only known a few that would sit when told no matter what else was going on like cats walking by 3ft away. I definitely should have stopped when the dog began growling, but instead I ran on past a few feet from the dog. I acknowledged the owners before I got there, but the dog didn't know I was friendly. I would say the dog was definitely trying to protect itself/its owners, nothing more. It was so quick the owners didn't have time to restrain the dog, and besides I was really too close for them to properly restrain the dog. Hope it heals quick and cleanly, I had a half wolf I grew up with and he would take you down at a full run, bite your leg and wrap his paws around mid stride, then pin ya with paws on your shoulders, but he was just playing rough. He broke my skin a few times, but only because he liked to play rough. Never a big deal to me or my brother, hell we would run and tackle him right back. God I loved that dog growing up. Hell I'm bleeding right now from my daughters damn kitten climbing my leg!
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If a dog bites you or is "attacking", what reaction is appropriate? "attacking" = gets lead treatment Well, the situation could escalate. A dog is going to bite or does bite you. Lets say you kick it. Now the owner flips out like, "whyd you kick my dog!?!". Well I’ll give you an example recently when I was not carrying. I walked down to the beach, a guy has his cane corso on a leash, he has his back to me looking at the ocean. I walk up, stop, and wait for him to turn around instead of attempting walk past his dog staring me down. His doggie launches at me. He held on to the leash and kept it from biting me. Then he says “he’s not that way”. If I had a pistol I would have drawn and probably shot the dog when he was a foot or so from me. The owner would have had a quick decision to make for himself. I don’t take killing someone dog lightly, but I’m not getting bitten either. |
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When I was 6 a dog bite off 1/4 of my face.
True story, I've had a decent size scar my whole life. Oddly enough my father works for the railroad, 2 years after the dog attack fell off the top of a boxcar. He now has the same scar I do, although his looks better because a plastic surgeon did his. |
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That's a dirty wound you need antibiotics now. This. Dog bites are notorious for nasty blood infections. The outer skin scabs over and traps the bacteria deep in the puncture. People ignore the infection saying, "oh, it's just bruised". By the time they see break down and see a doc, things can be pretty nasty. |
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While your elevated leg that looks like a bad case of elephantitis is keeping you from sleeping, you might want to develop a solid plan that looks something like this
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I can now never say that I haven't been bitten by a dog. I was out training for the APFT at night in a rural area an hour ago. There's a stretch of road right next to the house between two cul-de-sacs that is precisely 1/5th of a mile, so I run back and forth five times and time myself. I was 100 feet from finishing (a passing 16:25, need 17:00 to pass), and a couple with some dogs got out of a car in front of me. One of their dogs, a smallish 10 pound or so dog, saw me running towards them, and figured I was a threat, so he or she jumped out and grabbed my leg. The owners were apologetic, but I just figured that the dog was acting like a dog, thinking it was protecting itself and/or its owners, and I said it was fine and went back inside. The bite was worse than I thought - not only was there a strand of semi-living skin an inch long hanging out of one hole, but the bites were down to the muscle, and the skin between the two main fang bites was partially separated from my leg so that if I pushed down on the unharmed skin between the two holes it made a squishing sound and made blood squeeze out from both holes. It was a like a sucking leg wound. I disinfected a dropper and squirted peroxide into both holes (I could shove the dropper pretty far under my skin), put some clove and tea tree oil in it as a disinfectant, and put a bandage on it. TIme will tell if it's infected. The owners told me that the dog had its shots and in fact had just gotten shots a few days ago, so I think I'm OK there. You do what you want, but I would call animal control. they will quarantine the dog for 10 days to make sure it doesn't have rabies. If it doesn't they get their pooch back and you don't die a slow painfull death. At least ask to see the rabies vacination card from the vet. And you should have gone to the ER and had the wound cleaned properly. 26yrs carrying mail, I know of what I speak. Yep. |
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Get that bite looked at by a doctor pronto. I deal with a lot of dog bites, and they get infected a good chunk of the time, don't risk it. Yep. |
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While your elevated leg that looks like a bad case of elephantitis is keeping you from sleeping, you might want to develop a solid plan that looks something like this Yep. |
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You should go to the hospital. I've seen what can result from dog bites even if you clean/prep the wound. My mom got tagged on her hand(small puncture, nothing serious) trying to break up a fight between her dogs and she's a first responder so the wound was properly cleaned/prepped/etc. Then within a few days it got all fucked up and required an ER visit and several doctor visits and extremely painful wound packing about 10 times over the course of a couple weeks. There are bacterias dogs can carry that'll fuck you up.
After your doc visit you should talk to them and maybe see about having them pay part of the bill. It's the least they can do since they didn't have to deal with cops showing up, dog being taken/quarantined, record being started on the dog, possibility of lawsuit, etc. ETA: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-death-rare-dog-bite-bacteria-article-1.1244260 Quoted: Yep. Come on man, learn how to multi-quote. |
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yes pics! unwrap it and take some. You might want to start a course of antibiotics as well. I got a cat bite that wasn't nearly that bad. Doc gave me a tetanus shot and a week's worth of amoxicillin. Animal bites are NOT to be ignored! ps Cat is now a rodent control engineer at a dairy barn. There's actually an organization in NM that provides a matchup for farmers who need unsocializable cats. Quoted:
If a dog bites you or is "attacking", what reaction is appropriate? Call a cop. Cops love to shoot dogs. |
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Quoted: "the dog just got its shots." Yeah,, unless i have a confirmed rabies vaccination I wouldn't trust my life on that statement. Also, you can't post about semi living flesh dangling from your leg and not post pics. I doubt anybody is carrying a rabid dog in their car. |
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How long would it take for an infection to appear? It's been about 11 hours and there's no swelling, redness or any other sign. Just muscle soreness like a bruise.
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Infection can show signs up to 48 hours later. I still recommend a trip to the ER.
I wouldn't worry so much about rabies. It is highly unlikely that the dog was rabid. Also, and I'm sure you know this, but this whole thing was mostly your fault. If you ran up on the dog after it was already barking and growling and defending its owners, like you said, it was just doing what a dog does. And if you got close enough that the owners wouldn't have been able to prevent a bite anyway, doubly your fault. Had you done that to me and my dog, you'd have been bitten too. And for those that say they'd have shot the dog, hey, you run up on me and then shoot my dog when it defends me, I will assume that you mean me harm too. That will most likely result in a lead bolus for you. Sorry, that's just the way it is. |
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Infection can show signs up to 48 hours later. I still recommend a trip to the ER. I wouldn't worry so much about rabies. It is highly unlikely that the dog was rabid. Also, and I'm sure you know this, but this whole thing was mostly your fault. If you ran up on the dog after it was already barking and growling and defending its owners, like you said, it was just doing what a dog does. And if you got close enough that the owners wouldn't have been able to prevent a bite anyway, doubly your fault. Had you done that to me and my dog, you'd have been bitten too. And for those that say they'd have shot the dog, hey, you run up on me and then shoot my dog when it defends me, I will assume that you mean me harm too. That will most likely result in a lead bolus for you. Sorry, that's just the way it is. That's why I wasn't angry or anything. It was completely my fault. I was just in running mode and didn't want to stop. Well, live and learn. |
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In for the pics and video. I wanna hear the squishing noise. Yep. Where are the pics? |
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put some clove and tea tree oil in it as a disinfectant
seriously ? does no one use pine oil anymore? |
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Every owner claims their dog just got its shots.
Every Single One. |
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the Viet Cong would take feces and rub it in pungi sticks to cause infection, i'm thinking a dog licking it's ass and retaining bacteria from fecal matter on it's canines might mimic these results - oh wait what was the last run time?
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That's why I wasn't angry or anything. It was completely my fault. I was just in running mode and didn't want to stop. Well, live and learn. Thank you for being a calm, reasonable, rational person. I hope you recover quickly. Please do at least go to an urgent care clinic, even if you don't go to the ER. A quick course of antibiotics won't hurt anything, but it may save you a lot of suffering if you do end up with an infection. One of my mother's friends ended up hospitalized for several days after her yorkie bit her hand and she didn't get it seen about for a couple days. The wound went septic. Really not something to mess around with! |
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My husband and I have both been bitten by dogs and have gotten infections. The puncture wounds they leave are notorious for getting infected. I would make damn sure that dog has had its shots and not just take their word for it. You might want to consider a tetanus shot as well if it has been a while since you had one. Just my .02 cents...
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Infection can show signs up to 48 hours later. I still recommend a trip to the ER. I wouldn't worry so much about rabies. It is highly unlikely that the dog was rabid. Also, and I'm sure you know this, but this whole thing was mostly your fault. If you ran up on the dog after it was already barking and growling and defending its owners, like you said, it was just doing what a dog does. And if you got close enough that the owners wouldn't have been able to prevent a bite anyway, doubly your fault. Had you done that to me and my dog, you'd have been bitten too. And for those that say they'd have shot the dog, hey, you run up on me and then shoot my dog when it defends me, I will assume that you mean me harm too. That will most likely result in a lead bolus for you. Sorry, that's just the way it is. That's why I wasn't angry or anything. It was completely my fault. I was just in running mode and didn't want to stop. Well, live and learn. It wasn't your fault though. If I take a dag in public and it bites someone, it's the same as if I did it. They should have had the thing under control. Do you at least plan to have it looked at, or are ya gonna be dumb? |
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You will get an infection, it's just how bad is the question.
Every dog bite I've had that penetrated the skin got infected. |
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