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Posted: 7/21/2008 9:46:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 1:23:43 PM EDT by DV8]
OK, this goes out to all of us old ARMY guys. Who remembers when the chow hall was called a "chow hall" or "mess hall?"

My youngest brother has been in the ARMY for 6 years or so and he has always called it a DFAC (Dining FACility). When was the change?





Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:48:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:50:22 AM EDT
The cooks in the AF get pissed when we call it a "chow hall" but 90% of us still do. It's only a D-Fac when deployed.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:53:49 AM EDT
so,,which protected group did Chow Hall infuriate???


chinese?



or mess hall..

Messnise????

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:54:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
I used all three terms. 1988-1996 & 2001-2003



I was 87-89 and 91-93. I don't recall it ever being referred to as a DFAC. Who knows, perhaps Ft. Leonardwood, Ft. Lee and Ft. Hood were just weird.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 9:55:57 AM EDT
Yep, heard all three PLUS we had Consolidated Dining Facilities. These were monsters and I never saw them more than half open. The other side was complete with tables and chairs, only the lights were never on.

Each tenant unit would have its cooks assigned to the CDFAC until the unit went to the field. The MKT was in some other motor pool...don't remember anything other than the 3-phase juice they needed would require some careful scheduling.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 10:05:46 AM EDT
1977 TO 1980 US AND FRG always called a messhall !
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 10:06:49 AM EDT
I also used "mess hall"
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 10:08:08 AM EDT
Chow Hall was the way I was taught. Never heard the word DFAC 'till I got into Kuwait and eventually, Iraq.

But to me, the Chow Hall is wherever the cooks park the MKT (Mobile Kitchen Trailer) and set up the line or where the Supply Sgt drops the MRE boxes.

God I miss those days. Seriously.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 10:09:59 AM EDT
'88-'92 always chow/mess hall.


-Mark.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 10:58:44 AM EDT
Mess hall for me. 83-86
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:11:34 AM EDT
Mess Hall 1981-1986
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:15:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Yep, heard all three PLUS we had Consolidated Dining Facilities. These were monsters and I never saw them more than half open. The other side was complete with tables and chairs, only the lights were never on.

Each tenant unit would have its cooks assigned to the CDFAC until the unit went to the field. The MKT was in some other motor pool...don't remember anything other than the 3-phase juice they needed would require some careful scheduling.


+1 but whenever I went to the field our cooks always worked thier asses off. After a 3 wees field problem we got steak for dinner on our last night.

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:17:34 AM EDT
Heard all three.

Mess hall is what it is.




Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:20:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
The cooks in the AF get pissed when we call it a "chow hall" but 90% of us still do. It's only a D-Fac when deployed.


For me it's not even the D-Fac then.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 11:22:43 AM EDT
81-87 chow hall/mess hall
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:51:24 PM EDT
We called it the DFAC or the Chow Hall interchangeably. Army, 1999-2004
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 12:55:24 PM EDT

What the hell is a Dfac?

I must be a relic...

Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:23:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markl32:
What the hell is a Dfac?

I must be a relic...



See the first post.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:25:49 PM EDT
Chow Hall and Mess Hall.

1998-2004
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:27:20 PM EDT
chow/mess hall. Wow have times changed.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:29:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:37:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:
Mess Hall, though I had head the term Chow Hall.


You got head at the Term Chow Hall?









Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:42:05 PM EDT
Navy still calls it a Mess. After going in to the back, I know why
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:44:58 PM EDT
'68 - '70 we went to the "messhall" for "chow" or sometimes just opened a can of "C-rations". I still like peaches in a can.......
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:45:42 PM EDT
Chow hall '92-'96. DFAC '00-'05. Seems like the terminology evolved while I was in college. Deuce-and-a halfs and five-tons also seemed to go the way of the dodo in favor of LMTVs and FMTVs in the same time frame.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:46:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 1:46:45 PM EDT by FMJshooter]
Get both

Chow and DFAC
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 1:54:05 PM EDT
All 3.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:05:46 PM EDT
I heard all three, but technically I believe the "offical" term was dining facility, Army 83-86.

Of course I used to call them "dining fatalities".
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:34:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NRA2:
'68 - '70 we went to the "messhall" for "chow" or sometimes just opened a can of "C-rations". I still like peaches in a can.......


Exactly the same here. C-rations were pretty nasty except the ham&eggs, the hard chocolate and the cheese and the cigarettes. Yep, cigarettes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:42:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NRA2:
'68 - '70 we went to the "messhall" for "chow" or sometimes just opened a can of "C-rations". I still like peaches in a can.......


"Peaches in Heavy Syrup" were good even when it was hot, so was the B-4 unit.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:44:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pa-15:

Originally Posted By NRA2:
'68 - '70 we went to the "messhall" for "chow" or sometimes just opened a can of "C-rations". I still like peaches in a can.......


Exactly the same here. C-rations were pretty nasty except the ham&eggs, the hard chocolate and the cheese and the cigarettes. Yep, cigarettes.


The 20 year old Ham and Eggs we got in the C-rations sucked a big one.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:48:39 PM EDT
Chow Hall 1981-2001
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:10:37 PM EDT
mess hall. 81-83.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:13:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 5:16:43 PM EDT by QUIB]
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:17:30 PM EDT
I call it the Chow hall now and I got in back in 2003
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:21:56 PM EDT
Chow hall or mess hall. Ft Wainwright 87-91. And the Chow hall at Eilison AFB was 5000% better than those slop joints the Army has.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:24:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
Chow hall or mess hall. Ft Wainwright 87-91. And the Chow hall at Eilison AFB was 5000% better than those slop joints the Army has.


AF chow halls were always better than the ARMY. Same food in, better food out. Can't explain it. Maybe it was the fact that they had waiters and bus boys to take our order and clean up after us. (I was able to eat in a few AF dining halls).
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:25:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:25:58 PM EDT
Informally "chow hall". I think I remember a sign saying "DFac". 93-96
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:35:33 PM EDT
All three from 87-95.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:37:06 PM EDT
We ate "chow" in the "messhall"

DFAC was some effed up college term that only officers used.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:40:15 PM EDT
Mid 90s
I went from Mess Hall Officer to Dining Facility Manager.
Call it 95.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:43:24 PM EDT
Late 80's to Mid 90's. Chow Hall was the most commonly used term.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:46:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DV8:

Originally Posted By hobbsar:
Chow hall or mess hall. Ft Wainwright 87-91. And the Chow hall at Eilison AFB was 5000% better than those slop joints the Army has.


AF chow halls were always better than the ARMY. Same food in, better food out. Can't explain it. Maybe it was the fact that they had waiters and bus boys to take our order and clean up after us. (I was able to eat in a few AF dining halls).


I was a PFC in the Army in '93, and for some reason I can't remember now, a few of us were on Ramstein AB and had breakfast in the AF chow hall. We got done, picked up our trays, and wandered around stupidly for two or three minutes trying to figure out where to take them. Finally some AF SPs told us that we could just leave them on the table and go. I initially thought they were setting us up for failure, but then the ladies working there came and took our trays and told us it was okay.

Man, that was some high class stuff!!!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:50:14 PM EDT
Mess hall
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:53:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 5:58:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kiwibird1:
Navy still calls it a Mess. After going in to the back, I know why

Galley, shipmate.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:01:09 PM EDT
82-85 Mess Hall



Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:02:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/21/2008 6:07:44 PM EDT by raygixxer89]

Originally Posted By kiwibird1:
Navy still calls it a Mess. After going in to the back, I know why


back in '90,when I was stationed in Germany with 3RD Inf,I had this buddy of mine who HATED the chow/mess hall! He always complained about something. mainly the fact that the building was freakin' old!
He would always say,just loud enough for everybody within 20 ft. to hear: "Damn! I hate eating here! The last time I walked into the kitchen I saw a squad of roaches with MP bands(I forgot what they are called)busting suds!"(KP duty)
Damn,I miss Army chow!
My favorite meal of the day was always breakfast

It's kinda hard to mess bacon and eggs!(plus the grits.)My southern buds would frak out when I would put butter and sugar on my grits instead of salt and pepper!
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 6:03:19 PM EDT
chow hall.

+1 on DFAC being some O-type lingo. they come up with that crap just to make themselves feel better than us working men. damn elitists
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