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Posted: 4/21/2007 9:36:55 AM EDT
I am not sure how much is 100% fact, but I was told this morning that the Army is going to be putting the CMP M14 rifles back into service.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 9:42:01 AM EDT
AS far as I know, there ar no CMP m14's.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 9:45:01 AM EDT
The M14s that were loaned to state shooting organizations by the DCM/CMP have been called in.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 9:49:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/21/2007 9:53:10 AM EDT by Sinister]
Nope.

The Army has roughly 96,000 serviceable ready-to-issue M14s at Anniston. There are approximately 4600 issued between Iraq and Afghanistan.

The M14s belong to the Army, not the CMP.

The CMP is recalling the rifles because most highpower shooters now use M16 clones and the insurance and bonding costs are exceeding the pain-in-the-ass factor to track each and every one of these weapons (which are still classified as machineguns, welded selector shafts or not).

Each theft or loss of an Army property, CMP-issued rifle requires both an Army Article 15-6 investigation and report, and must be reported to the NCIC as a lost or stolen automatic weapon.

Those caught with an M14 listed as lost/stolen by the CMP and State Associations are liable to prosecution for possession of stolen government automatic weapons under Title 18 of the US Code and the National Firearms Act of 1934 (10 years and $10,000 per count).

It ain't worth it.

Most new and experienced shooters do well with ARs anyway. Older shooters may benefit from the M14's longer sight radius, but it is more expensive to shoot 7.62mm reloads/target loads.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 9:50:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gaweidert:
AS far as I know, there ar no CMP m14's.


Originally Posted By LeonardC:
The M14s that were loaned to state shooting organizations by the DCM/CMP have been called in.


That has already been established. How much truth is there to the statement that they are going into GI service?
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 9:51:08 AM EDT
Everytime I hear about M14s I feel the almost uncontrollable urge to beat Mr. Cigar into a bloody pulp and leave him alive but horribly scarred and disfigured.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 9:54:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sinister:
The Army has roughly 96,000 serviceable ready-to-issue M14s at Anniston. There are approximately 4600 issued between Iraq and Afghanistan.
The CMP is recalling the rifles because most highpower shooters now use M16 clones and the insurance and bonding costs are exceeding the pain-in-the-ass factor to track each and every one of these weapons (which are still classified as machineguns, welded selector shafts or not).
Each theft or loss of an Army property, CMP-issued rifle requires both an Army Article 15-6 investigation and report, and must be reported to the NCIC as a lost or stolen automatic weapon.
Those caught with an M14 listed as lost/stolen by the CMP and State Associations are liable to prosecution for possession of stolen government wepaons under Title 18 of the US Code. It ain't worth it.
Most new and experienced shooters do well with ARs anyway. Older shooters may benefit from the longer sight radius, but it is more expensive to shoot 7.62mm reloads/target loads.


Is there an official statement out there anwhere explaining this? What will be done with the recalled rifles? There must be some big rumors floating around about going to the Army, because I talked to the head of the Wisconsin program this morning because I have to turn in the M14 that I have on loan. It doesn't suprise me that incorrect rumors are out there.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 10:31:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Interceptor_Knight:

Originally Posted By Sinister:
The Army has roughly 96,000 serviceable ready-to-issue M14s at Anniston. There are approximately 4600 issued between Iraq and Afghanistan.
The CMP is recalling the rifles because most highpower shooters now use M16 clones and the insurance and bonding costs are exceeding the pain-in-the-ass factor to track each and every one of these weapons (which are still classified as machineguns, welded selector shafts or not).
Each theft or loss of an Army property, CMP-issued rifle requires both an Army Article 15-6 investigation and report, and must be reported to the NCIC as a lost or stolen automatic weapon.
Those caught with an M14 listed as lost/stolen by the CMP and State Associations are liable to prosecution for possession of stolen government wepaons under Title 18 of the US Code. It ain't worth it.
Most new and experienced shooters do well with ARs anyway. Older shooters may benefit from the longer sight radius, but it is more expensive to shoot 7.62mm reloads/target loads.


Is there an official statement out there anwhere explaining this? What will be done with the recalled rifles? There must be some big rumors floating around about going to the Army, because I talked to the head of the Wisconsin program this morning because I have to turn in the M14 that I have on loan. It doesn't suprise me that incorrect rumors are out there.


Do a site search, this has been posted at least twice before.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 10:44:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hmanjr:
Everytime I hear about M14s I feel the almost uncontrollable urge to beat Mr. Cigar into a bloody pulp and leave him alive but horribly scarred and disfigured.


+1 buddy.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 1:01:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
Do a site search, this has been posted at least twice before.


Your statement was posted 2x before, or the source was posted 2x before? If you know that it is a fact, why don't you just post the source?
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