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Posted: 2/11/2017 6:21:19 AM EDT
https://www.armytimes.com/articles/exclusive-army-times-survey-tell-sma-if-you-like-the-world-war-ii-pinks-and-greens-uniform I was one of the proponents suggesting the return to WW2 dress uniforms in 2013-2014. Here's some examples of the current Army service uniform for both enlisted and officers.
  
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Posted: 2/11/2017 6:25:15 AM EDT
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Fuck yeah
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Posted: 2/11/2017 6:27:51 AM EDT
[#2]
I don't see anything pink about that uniform.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 6:29:48 AM EDT
[#3]
That would be cool to see.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 6:34:04 AM EDT
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I guess I'm just simple and don't understand the need for a uniform between a field uniform and Class Bs.
But to be fair I also don't get why so many office workers wear field or flight uniforms every day. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 6:35:29 AM EDT
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Does that include the 1911...?
( they ALL fall to hardBALL ) 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:01:02 AM EDT
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I don't see anything pink about that uniform. 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:17:14 AM EDT
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I guess I'm just simple and don't understand the need for a uniform between a field uniform and Class Bs. But to be fair I also don't get why so many office workers wear field or flight uniforms every day. It could also be that the Army is big on uniformity, in most units the "uniform of the day" is a utility uniform most days, having officers in one uniform and enlisted in another would not be uniform, it would also not help unit cohesion and esprit de corp. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:19:31 AM EDT
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I was hoping for combat uniforms too.
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Germans returned to their m40 uniforms? 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:24:44 AM EDT
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Neat. Going to cost the soldier half a grand to switch over...I had to buy my blues for that switch...little over 600 out the door.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:27:16 AM EDT
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I guess I'm just simple and don't understand the need for a uniform between a field uniform and Class Bs. But to be fair I also don't get why so many office workers wear field or flight uniforms every day. Plus it looks like you're trying to be like the Navy and have 87 uniforms. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:31:57 AM EDT
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Neat. Going to cost the soldier half a grand to switch over...I had to buy my blues for that switch...little over 600 out the door. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:33:46 AM EDT
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Neat. Going to cost the soldier half a grand to switch over...I had to buy my blues for that switch...little over 600 out the door. 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:34:16 AM EDT
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hahaha
Hope they include those nasty elastic shirt stays we had in the Marines that rip out chunks of leg hair after the slightest movement. Nothing worse than getting ADNCO/DNCO guard duty in the Marines and having to wear Charlies for 24hrs straight. I was on a lot of Army bases and you guys got to wear cammies almost everywhere...I was definitely butthurt/jealous. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:37:04 AM EDT
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totally agree. Plus it looks like you're trying to be like the Navy and have 87 uniforms. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:43:37 AM EDT
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Neat. Going to cost the soldier half a grand to switch over...I had to buy my blues for that switch...little over 600 out the door. I thought the military paid for everything a soldier needs. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:44:13 AM EDT
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We knew that was going to happen. Can't let the corpsman only get the fancy green marpat.
I'll admit, after learning the Marines no longer have desert marpat made me a little sad. At least it made it easier to see rank when you have a hard charging 1st SGT/Master SGT coming your way and needed the formal greeting...with deserts you could actually see the diamond/crossed rifles from 15 feet away and save you from getting "devil dogged." With greens the black rank is just a blob of blab..."Good morning...master gu...ehh.first sgt...." |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:48:02 AM EDT
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We don't need a garrison uniform.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:49:04 AM EDT
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wtf. I thought the military paid for everything a soldier needs. haha...not sure if you're being sarcastic. I was so broke with E3 pay and trying to afford gear/uniforms, etc.. Of course every time some new ball/dance/retirement ceremony happens you need to dig out your crumbled uniform from the foot locker, realize it has the wrong rank, and rush to get it pressed/new rank sewn on. Half of my infantry gear was paid out of pocket too. The longer you serve the less chance of you becoming a gear queer....it cost too much to buy excess stuff. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:52:08 AM EDT
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Good idea.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:52:49 AM EDT
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Or... the Army could keep its uniforms and spend the $$$ on ammo, fuel and parts.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:53:44 AM EDT
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We don't need a garrison uniform. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:54:27 AM EDT
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https://www.armytimes.com/articles/exclusive-army-times-survey-tell-sma-if-you-like-the-world-war-ii-pinks-and-greens-uniform I was one of the early proponents for it in 2013-2014. The field uniforms from that era were good-looking and would make good service uniforms. Does the Army intend to do the summer, winter, and tropical versions, or just the winter version (or winter coat with summer trousers)? The actual dress uniforms used by the Army back then had their wear temporarily suspended starting before the war even began, though, and would be discontinued without the suspension ever being lifted after the war. They kind of resembled what the Marines wear today, especially for artillerymen due to their branch colour. Dark blue peaked cap piped in branch colour with branch insignia in front and black chinstrap and visor; dark blue frock coat with standing collar and somewhat short skirt, also piped in branch colour with a black leather belt with brass buckle, rank insignia also being in branch colour; and trousers similar in shade to what the Marines replaced sky blue with and still wear today, with trouser stripes for NCOs in branch colour; and black ankle boots. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:57:59 AM EDT
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Or the Army could spend that money on upgrading the M4, and training it's troops.
Or maybe spend it on that lightweight land warrior vehicle thing. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 7:59:08 AM EDT
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Now they need Herbert Sobel as their commander
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:01:50 AM EDT
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The old American dress uniforms were some of the smartest there's been
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:03:11 AM EDT
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Is finding new uniforms some kind of busy work they hand out to command ranks that don't have a command?
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:03:45 AM EDT
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When they up my clothing allowance then we'll talk. Any more new uniforms with new prices and I'll have to buy the top one year and the bottoms the next.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:09:51 AM EDT
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Could be because so many Army officers end up in the motor pool and flight line every day? It could also be that the Army is big on uniformity, in most units the "uniform of the day" is a utility uniform most days, having officers in one uniform and enlisted in another would not be uniform, it would also not help unit cohesion and esprit de corp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess I'm just simple and don't understand the need for a uniform between a field uniform and Class Bs. But to be fair I also don't get why so many office workers wear field or flight uniforms every day. It could also be that the Army is big on uniformity, in most units the "uniform of the day" is a utility uniform most days, having officers in one uniform and enlisted in another would not be uniform, it would also not help unit cohesion and esprit de corp. Who said officer v enlisted? Walk through a headquarters unit and damn near everyone is wearing field uniforms. This isn't just an Army thing either, everyone walks around in utilities when a whole lot of them are at zero risk of needing them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:12:36 AM EDT
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Is finding new uniforms some kind of busy work they hand out to command ranks that don't have a command? I think it's more about busy bodies trying to make their mark during temporary slow downs between wars. I'm sure we'll see another fitness test program or other BS to piss off garrison troops even more. We'll see a lot more of this in the next few years. As much as I hate war, at least this type of BS gets pushed aside. The stories my friends tell me of garrison life during peacetime periods would make me go crazy. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:14:05 AM EDT
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Is finding new uniforms some kind of busy work they hand out to command ranks that don't have a command? I imagine there are probably people in DoD the bureaucracy, uniformed or otherwise, whose careers revolve around these kinds of changes. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:14:19 AM EDT
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Great. Another opportunity for senior NCOs to make life hell for soldiers who don't spend $600-$800 on a new dress uniform the day it comes out. I know a soldier who got thrown out of a board because he was wearing dress greens after the blues came out. Greens hasn't reached their wear out date yet, but the SGM lost his shit about how "unmotivated" the soldier was for having not purchased them yet. I guess we're about to see more boneheaded instances like that one.
The army changes uniforms so often that it's an obvious AAFES racket and nothing else. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:16:45 AM EDT
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wtf. I thought the military paid for everything a soldier needs. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Sorry. Hahahaha Hahahahahaha They don't. Many units are such garbage that you'll even be paying for your own rifle cleaning supplies. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:16:59 AM EDT
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I imagine there are probably people in DoD the bureaucracy, uniformed or otherwise, whose careers revolve around these kinds of changes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is finding new uniforms some kind of busy work they hand out to command ranks that don't have a command? I imagine there are probably people in DoD the bureaucracy, uniformed or otherwise, whose careers revolve around these kinds of changes. "Kept shit running the same" doesn't make a good EPR bullet. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:25:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:28:34 AM EDT
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haha...not sure if you're being sarcastic. I was so broke with E3 pay and trying to afford gear/uniforms, etc.. Of course every time some new ball/dance/retirement ceremony happens you need to dig out your crumbled uniform from the foot locker, realize it has the wrong rank, and rush to get it pressed/new rank sewn on. Half of my infantry gear was paid out of pocket too. The longer you serve the less chance of you becoming a gear queer....it cost too much to buy excess stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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wtf. I thought the military paid for everything a soldier needs. haha...not sure if you're being sarcastic. I was so broke with E3 pay and trying to afford gear/uniforms, etc.. Of course every time some new ball/dance/retirement ceremony happens you need to dig out your crumbled uniform from the foot locker, realize it has the wrong rank, and rush to get it pressed/new rank sewn on. Half of my infantry gear was paid out of pocket too. The longer you serve the less chance of you becoming a gear queer....it cost too much to buy excess stuff. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:28:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:29:13 AM EDT
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The field uniforms from that era were good-looking and would make good service uniforms. Does the Army intend to do the summer, winter, and tropical versions, or just the winter version (or winter coat with summer trousers)? The actual dress uniforms used by the Army back then had their wear temporarily suspended starting before the war even began, though, and would be discontinued without the suspension ever being lifted after the war. They kind of resembled what the Marines wear today, especially for artillerymen due to their branch colour. Dark blue peaked cap piped in branch colour with branch insignia in front and black chinstrap and visor; dark blue frock coat with standing collar and somewhat short skirt, also piped in branch colour with a black leather belt with brass buckle, rank insignia also being in branch colour; and trousers similar in shade to what the Marines replaced sky blue with and still wear today, with trouser stripes for NCOs in branch colour; and black ankle boots. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:30:43 AM EDT
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No. Just... no.
In the Army I had a dress uniform and a working uniform. No one wants to go to work every day and sit in a ties and wear stupid BS even in an office. Now in the CG I have a dress uniform and a working uniform. And casual dress uniforms halfway between for summer and winter. And less dressy dress uniform. And more dressy dress uniform. And insignia, ribbon bars, and multiple covers for all of it. My basic uniform issue was $1600 (I still have yet to buy my whites so round it to $2K) all paid for with a before tax $400 one time clothing allowance. So while it doesn't affect me anymore I feel for the soldiers that are going to have to deal with this BS. There's zero reason to give up wearing a relatively inexpensive every-day-every-occasion utility uniform in favor or uniform of the day for squared away staff weenies who won't want to wear a jacket and tie to work anyways. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:31:09 AM EDT
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"Kept shit running the same" doesn't make a good EPR bullet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is finding new uniforms some kind of busy work they hand out to command ranks that don't have a command? I imagine there are probably people in DoD the bureaucracy, uniformed or otherwise, whose careers revolve around these kinds of changes. "Kept shit running the same" doesn't make a good EPR bullet. I always believed "Shit I didn't change and just ran well" should be it's own section on Army Officer Evaluation Reports. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:32:51 AM EDT
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Or the Army could spend that money on upgrading the M4, and training it's troops. Or maybe spend it on that lightweight land warrior vehicle thing.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:35:55 AM EDT
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I thought the military paid for everything a soldier needs. Every enlisted soldier in all branches gets an annual clothing allowance. They get it at New Years though and, unfortunately, many blow the money on other things. Then they complain about how much uniforms cost. While living in free housing. How do you post the little picture of the guy hiding behind the wall? |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:39:03 AM EDT
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Is finding new uniforms some kind of busy work they hand out to command ranks that don't have a command? |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:41:18 AM EDT
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ZOMG, how's everyone gonna look squared away? 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:42:40 AM EDT
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The SGMs will find a way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ZOMG, how's everyone gonna look squared away? |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:43:53 AM EDT
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Fuck yeah They were classy as hell. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:49:56 AM EDT
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wtf. I thought the military paid for everything a soldier needs. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:53:03 AM EDT
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Be policin them moostash hairs... 
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:55:10 AM EDT
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Isn't he a dandy, all shined up for his photo.
Always speaks highly of Patton. |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:55:34 AM EDT
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Fuck yeah Heck yeah. Just do it Army. MAGA!! |
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Posted: 2/11/2017 8:57:40 AM EDT
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