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Posted: 10/27/2006 9:20:04 AM EST
Not the freshest news, but I didn't see this posted...


Oct. 18, 2006 -- In keeping with its tradition of naming its helicopters after Native American tribes, the Army plans to dub its new Light Utility Helicopter the Lakota, according to a recent memorandum.

In the Oct. 16 memo, Claude Bolton, the Army’s acquisition executive, said he “concur with the popular assignment of the American Indian Tribal name 'Lakota' for the LUH in accordance with U.S. Materiel Command's recommendation.”

Col. Cory Mahanna, the service’s project manager for utility helicopters, told Inside the Army today he has “not yet received” the new name for the LUH fleet. However, he added, the Army is working though the naming process.

Explaining that process, Mahanna said the Army’s aviation “user” community compiles a list of names and makes a recommendation to the Army's acquisition czar, Bolton. Once the senior acquisition official approves the name, the service seeks approval from the Native American community before officially naming the new fleet.

Larry Thurman, director of acquisition and industrial base policy in the office of the assistant secretary of the Army for acquisition, logistics and technology, told ITA today the name has not been blessed by the Native American community.

The Lakota tribe is part of the Great Sioux Nation and occupy lands in both North and South Dakota.

In June, EADS North American Defense of Arlington, VA, was selected to produce the service’s LUH fleet, which could be worth $3 billion. The aircraft is intended to be used by first responders in the continental United States, and a total of 322 platforms will be procured beginning this year.

However, the program was placed in limbo this summer while the Government Accountability Office investigated protests filed by two companies that competed for the helicopter contract -- MD Helicopters and AgustaWestland.

The protests have been consolidated and a decision to sustain or deny the protests will be handed down by Oct. 23, according to the agency.

MDHI offered its MD Explorer helicopter, while AgustaWestland offered a version of its AW139 platform.

Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:25:06 AM EST
Thank God it wasn't "LaShonda"?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:27:48 AM EST
I think "Lakota" would be a better name for the ARH-70 than the UH-72 (same birds, IIRC, different jobs).

*shrug*
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:28:22 AM EST
Ya gotta love it!

They kill off most all the Lakotas then have the nerve to "honor" them with some phony bullshit name for another weapons system.

What do you think Crazy Horse would say?

Why not name it "Democratizer" instead?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:28:45 AM EST
Imagine the irony if a US Army helicopter ever transported a slot machine.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:31:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
Imagine the irony if a US Army helicopter ever transported a slot machine.


BwaHaHaHa

That is some funny shit right there.

Although I agree it's a bullshit way to honor a group of people that the army slaughtered not that many years ago.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:31:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
Imagine the irony if a US Army helicopter ever transported a slot machine.





That gets my vote for post of the week!
Very clever!!
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:32:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By ReelVirginian1861:
Ya gotta love it!

They kill off most all the Lakotas then have the nerve to "honor" them with some phony bullshit name for another weapons system.

What do you think Crazy Horse would say?

Why not name it "Democratizer" instead?


dont they name these things after indian tribes? never heard of the 'Democratizer' tribe... was crazy horse a member of the democratizer tribe?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:34:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By ReelVirginian1861:
What do you think Crazy Horse would say?


He wouldn't say anything, he's dead.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:35:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
Imagine the irony if a US Army helicopter ever transported a slot machine.





That gets my vote for post of the week!
Very clever!!


crurifragium 08!



i cant wait till the AH-69 shaneequa comes out
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:41:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Flakchak:

Originally Posted By ReelVirginian1861:
What do you think Crazy Horse would say?


He wouldn't say anything, he's dead.


In which case he would say, "BRAAAAIIIIIINSSSSS!"
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:48:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 10:51:01 AM EST by Chairborne]
Because this thread was worthless without pics:

Link Posted: 10/27/2006 9:49:46 AM EST
I suspect it won't be long before the end users nickname it "Louie", if they haven't already.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:02:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 10:02:22 AM EST by vanrichten]

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Because this thread was worthless without pics:

www.uh-145.com/images/UH-145_2_lg.jpg


Holy huge fucking pic batman!!!
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:05:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By vanrichten:

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Because this thread was worthless without pics:

www.uh-145.com/images/UH-145_2_lg.jpg


Holy huge fucking pic batman!!!


All they had on the UH-145 website was tiny little pics and some monster sized ones, I erred on the side of massive.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:14:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Because this thread was worthless without pics:

www.uh-145.com/images/UH-145_2_lg.jpg

Not sure if that one worked, but here is a crappy one:

www.uh-145.com/images/main_splash_win.jpg


How about one that isn't life-sized?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:27:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2006 10:28:20 AM EST by vito113]

Originally Posted By DrMark:


In June, EADS North American Defense of Arlington, VA, was selected to produce the service’s LUH fleet, which could be worth $3 billion. The aircraft is intended to be used by first responders in the continental United States, and a total of 322 platforms will be procured beginning this year.



EADS!!

YOU GUYS BOUGHT 'AIRBUS' EUROCOPTERS!



www.eads.com/web/lang/en/1024/content/OF00000000400004/0/14/40785140.html

ANdy
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:32:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By DrMark:

In June, EADS North American Defense of Arlington, VA, was selected to produce the service’s LUH fleet, which could be worth $3 billion. The aircraft is intended to be used by first responders in the continental United States, and a total of 322 platforms will be procured beginning this year.



EADS!!

YOU GUYS BOUGHT 'AIRBUS' EUROCOPTERS!



The worst part is that when the pilot yells "Contact!" the crew chief will spin the rotor blades the wrong way.



Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:34:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
Thank God it wasn't "LaShonda"?


All army helos are named after indians.

Cayuse
Souix
Iroquois
Black Hawk
Apache
Chinook
Kiowa
Cheyenn­e
Lakota
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:34:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By DrMark:


In June, EADS North American Defense of Arlington, VA, was selected to produce the service’s LUH fleet, which could be worth $3 billion. The aircraft is intended to be used by first responders in the continental United States, and a total of 322 platforms will be procured beginning this year.



EADS!!

YOU GUYS BOUGHT 'AIRBUS' EUROCOPTERS!



www.eads.com/web/lang/en/1024/content/OF00000000400004/0/14/40785140.html

ANdy


This one is never even intended to leave CONUS, and for the one that will (ARH) they chose an American heli.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:35:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paveway_:

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
Thank God it wasn't "LaShonda"?


All army helos are named after indians.

Cayuse
Souix
Iroquois
Black Hawk
Apache
Chinook
Kiowa
Cheyenn­e
Lakota


What about Commanche?


Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:37:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By DrMark:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By DrMark:

In June, EADS North American Defense of Arlington, VA, was selected to produce the service’s LUH fleet, which could be worth $3 billion. The aircraft is intended to be used by first responders in the continental United States, and a total of 322 platforms will be procured beginning this year.



EADS!!

YOU GUYS BOUGHT 'AIRBUS' EUROCOPTERS!



The worst part is that when the pilot yells "Contact!" the crew chief will spin the rotor blades the wrong way.






Actually, AIRBUS jibes aside, they are a damn good helocopter. They are widely used by PD's here in Britain and the EU.

They are fast, highly agile and spookily quiet

ANdy
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:42:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By DrMark:

This one is never even intended to leave CONUS, and for the one that will (ARH) they chose an American heli.


But IIRC, it will be built in Montreal, Canada, so it has a Phrenchy 'parentage'…

ANdy
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:47:36 AM EST
Here is a slightly more viewable version of the picture above.

Link Posted: 10/27/2006 10:52:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By codyXdeath:
Here is a slightly more viewable version of the picture above.

img130.imageshack.us/img130/8190/uh145li3.jpg


Thanks for the help. Normally I would resize it and host it at imageshack but here I can't even view the original, or your resize.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 11:28:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
What about Commanche?




Yes, Commanche is an Indian Tribe as well.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 11:31:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By DrMark:

This one is never even intended to leave CONUS, and for the one that will (ARH) they chose an American heli.


But IIRC, it will be built in Montreal, Canada, so it has a Phrenchy 'parentage'…


ANdy
That's why they are staying in CONUS. No one to surrender to.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 11:32:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By vito113:

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By vito113:
Originally Posted By DrMark:

This one is never even intended to leave CONUS, and for the one that will (ARH) they chose an American heli.


But IIRC, it will be built in Montreal, Canada, so it has a Phrenchy 'parentage'…


ANdy
That's why they are staying in CONUS. No one to surrender to.



Link Posted: 10/27/2006 1:28:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By st0newall:

Originally Posted By ReelVirginian1861:
Ya gotta love it!

They kill off most all the Lakotas then have the nerve to "honor" them with some phony bullshit name for another weapons system.

What do you think Crazy Horse would say?

Why not name it "Democratizer" instead?


dont they name these things after indian tribes? never heard of the 'Democratizer' tribe... was crazy horse a member of the democratizer tribe?


yes, I think he was of that tribe.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 1:29:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Flakchak:

Originally Posted By ReelVirginian1861:
What do you think Crazy Horse would say?


He wouldn't say anything, he's dead.


Okay, you got me.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 1:35:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By ReelVirginian1861:
Ya gotta love it!

They kill off most all the Lakotas then have the nerve to "honor" them with some phony bullshit name for another weapons system.

What do you think Crazy Horse would say?

Why not name it "Democratizer" instead?


Cuz i think White Man would get confusing after a while.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 1:41:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paveway_:

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
Thank God it wasn't "LaShonda"?


All army helos are named after indians.

Cayuse
Souix
Iroquois
Black Hawk
Apache
Chinook
Kiowa
Cheyenn­e
Lakota


Where is the Cobra tribe from?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 1:50:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:

Originally Posted By Paveway_:

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
Thank God it wasn't "LaShonda"?


All army helos are named after indians.

Cayuse
Souix
Iroquois
Black Hawk
Apache
Chinook
Kiowa
Cheyenn­e
Lakota


Where is the Cobra tribe from?


Up the river from the "little bird" tribe.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 7:56:03 PM EST
Aren't the little birds OH-1 Cayuse helicopters?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:04:37 PM EST
I have no problem with Lakota, although they are part of the Great Sioux Nation, and there's already a Sioux helicopter. Maybe they should have a Chippewa or Ojibwa, although they already have a USS Chippewa.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 4:38:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleARon:
Aren't the little birds OH-6 Cayuse helicopters?


Essentially. Current Little Birds are based on the MD-530 series aircraft.

Link Posted: 10/28/2006 6:20:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paveway_:

Originally Posted By KangarooAR-15A3:
Thank God it wasn't "LaShonda"?


All army helos are named after indians.

Cayuse
Souix
Iroquois
Black Hawk
Apache
Chinook
Kiowa
Cheyenn­e
Lakota
Everyone seems to forget the CH-37 Mojave!
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 6:35:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
What about Commanche?




He's a brave horse...
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