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Posted: 9/18/2009 5:52:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 2:22:01 PM EST by giblackjack]
I'm considering enlisting into the Army as a 25B (Information Technology Specialist) and wanted to find out from you guys what I can expect in this career field. Mind you this is only one of the options I'm looking at, OCS is the other, and what I'm considering first. 25B is my backup plan.

I already have a 4 year degree in computer science, and if I can't get into OCS, then this would seem like the perfect fit, but what are typical duties involved?

Thanks in advance!


<edit for clarification>
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:29:48 PM EST
bump for night crew...
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:31:04 PM EST
Might want to try Hall of Heroes. Slower but more detailed info.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:34:48 PM EST
There is too much variance in that job to pin anything down. You can be stuck fixing archaic servers / desktops or you may be managing state of the art stuff.

If you want to go the O route, why not pick an MOS that you can learn new skills from while enlisted?

You are probably qualified to teach at the 25B school.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:37:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
If you want to go the O route, why not pick an MOS that you can learn new skills from while enlisted?


If you do college ops OCS you just do Basic then head over to OCS.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 6:40:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
If you want to go the O route, why not pick an MOS that you can learn new skills from while enlisted?


If you do college ops OCS you just do Basic then head over to OCS.


I got the impression that is what he is trying for, but was asking for MOS stuff in case slots were not available.

That, and the college grads who go straight OCS really miss out on a lot, IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:07:17 PM EST
Rather have a "Mustang" in charge than a "ringknocker" any day.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:12:51 PM EST
My reserve unit is currently looking for a volunteer to re-class to 25B. The number one rule of the Army is not to volunteer. The job involves networking and net security for the most part. Everything in the military (personnel records, finance, evaluations, and training) is done on computers now.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:14:17 PM EST
If you have a degee, become an officer. If you have to go enlisted, get to Sergeant as quick as you can, get at least one NCOER, then put in your packet for Warrant Officer. None of the Signal Warrant Officer have feeder MOS's, so your degree makes you a strong candidate.
Link Posted: 9/18/2009 7:33:17 PM EST
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it. To whoever suggested I look at another MOS if I have to enlist, that is something I've considered, but I figure that having the work experience would be better for me if I decide to go back to the civilian world after my initial enlistment.

If anyone else has any advice or input on the MOS, I'm all ears.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:01:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Rather have a "Mustang" in charge than a "ringknocker" any day.


In the context of this thread, what exactly are you saying?

Do you consider a guy who enlists straight OCS option to be a "Mustang?" Or, are you recommending he get a few enlisted years under his belt first?

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:12:36 AM EST
A "Mustang" is common slang for a soldier who enlists for several years, then goes to OCS or "Green-to-Gold".

A "ringknocker" is common slang for officers who graduated West Point, and then go around sticking their West Point class ring in everyone's face.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:24:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Rather have a "Mustang" in charge than a "ringknocker" any day.


In the context of this thread, what exactly are you saying?

Do you consider a guy who enlists straight OCS option to be a "Mustang?" Or, are you recommending he get a few enlisted years under his belt first?



So, something that I didn't realize until 2 months ago was that about half of each OCS class are folks with no military experience other than Basic.

Additionally, I can't see how ring-knockers can exist in the modern Army. Compared to the good ol' days when most officers were from the Academy, only about 25% of officers are West Pointers.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:30:14 AM EST
25B is fairly good. My friend is a 25U, Signal Support Specialist and he went to OCS as well. If i would have been able to enlist, I was gonna sign as a 25B
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:35:45 AM EST
25B works usually in teh IMO or S-6/G-6 staff sections. You will be the "IT" guy of the battalion or above.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:41:25 AM EST
25B and 25S MosQ over here. Just do it!!! you won't regret it. One thing, are you sure you can pass de secret clearence?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:52:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By Nuke_Head:
25B and 25S MosQ over here. Just do it!!! you won't regret it. One thing, are you sure you can pass de secret clearence?


afaik Secret clearance is pretty easy to get. All officers have one...I have never heard of anyone getting rejected.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:22:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By JSteensen:
A "Mustang" is common slang for a soldier who enlists for several years, then goes to OCS or "Green-to-Gold".

A "ringknocker" is common slang for officers who graduated West Point, and then go around sticking their West Point class ring in everyone's face.


Again, "in the context of this thread."

In other words, what advice are you giving our OP?

From where I sit, your post seemed to be an attack on Pegasus6, and possibly an encouragement for the OP to go straight to OCS. Based on your definitions, now that does not seem to be the case.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:45:50 AM EST
Another MOS you might want to consider is 35T.

Pretty interesting dynamic of hardware, software and IT and you will get a TS clearance. Maybe I have just met the low performers in the 25B MOS but none of them appeared to be well trained.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 2:21:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Nuke_Head:
25B and 25S MosQ over here. Just do it!!! you won't regret it. One thing, are you sure you can pass de secret clearence?

Secret clearance shouldn't be a problem for me. No outstanding debt or anything like that. Background check is as clean as a whistle.
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